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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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100 percent. Especially the vague type of tweets. 'Madrid are considering bidding for Pogba as United haven't concluded the deal'. Send the United fans into a frenzy because big bad Madrid are thinking about stealing their lunch. And gets every anti-United fan to retweet and laugh at the thought of another saga ending in tears for United.

All of the above, based on a tweet that says nothing really. Unreal isnt it.
Completely agree. You better believe that if Madrid were actually in for Pogba and he was going there, we'd have an all singing all dancing media circle-jerk from Perez. He'd be updating the press minute by minute. The fact all the stories coming out of Madrid are nothing but butt-hurt, we're absolutely fine.
 
I don't believe madrid are in for him. I've never seen them pursue a high profile signing without excessive press coverage, tapping up, and press leaks.

If they wanted him, Marca would be mentioning him everyday.

Really believe its a done dealio, hopefully announced this week.
 
Madrid don't work like that, that is why they don't like Pogba who respects Juventus. Their tactics go something like this:

* Tap up player and offer a ridiculous salary
* Low ball the player's existing club
* If club don't agree, get the player to protest and kick up a fuss

This is the sole reason why Madrid are not in this as the player didn't bite.
You're missing the regulation spouting of the current Madrid players of things like "he'd be great for Madrid" or "he's exactly what we need" etc.
This is another reason why I think it's all tied up bar the shouting.
 
If Tanc says we have agreed everything then there is no reason for Madrid to be back in. That's what I done understand.
He's saying Zidane would have to ask Pogba not to sign the document until Madrid are ready to bid.

It's all very loose speculation and complete rubbish, he's just saying "why Madrid might still have a chance"

Madrid aren't interested. IF they were they would have bid by now and making loads of noise. None of the proper Spanish Journo's or papers say it's happening. Madrid aren't a worry.
 
Like I say I would imagine this is announced after Juve announce Higuain. No club wants to appear to be giving into another club easily. But what's being said behind closed doors and in public are two different things.
 
100 percent. Especially the vague type of tweets. 'Madrid are considering bidding for Pogba as United haven't concluded the deal'. Send the United fans into a frenzy because big bad Madrid are thinking about stealing their lunch. And gets every anti-United fan to retweet and laugh at the thought of another saga ending in tears for United.

All of the above, based on a tweet that says nothing really. Unreal isnt it.
So if I now send out a Tweet saying Chelsea are lining up a sensational £140m swoop for Pogba, according to "sources", might I finally manage to get into double digits of followers?
 
He's an actual journo. They are light years apart.

He maybe a journo, the express have journos who work for them aswell, point is Tancredi has got a lot wrong over the years, so can't be trusted as a reliable source
 
You're missing the regulation spouting of the current Madrid players of things like "he'd be great for Madrid" or "he's exactly what we need" etc.
This is another reason why I think it's all tied up bar the shouting.

Yep you are bang on, i missed that bit
 
Growing tired of checking this thread now. I swear the last 30 odd pages have just been tweets rehashing the same information over and over coupled in with people shitting themselves that Madrid are going to hijack the deal.
 
He maybe a journo, the express have journos who work for them aswell, point is Tancredi has got a lot wrong over the years, so can't be trusted as a reliable source

All journos get a lot of stuff wrong. No need to single out Tanc or compare him to some account that completely fabricates nonsense out of thin air.
 
So if I now send out a Tweet saying Chelsea are lining up a sensational £140m swoop for Pogba, according to "sources", might I finally manage to get into double digits of followers?

I would imagine yes. State that you source(s) work within marketing and they went into overdrive the same day Woodward landed in China.
 
I would imagine yes. State that you source(s) work within marketing and they went into overdrive the same day Woodward landed in China.

Im always amazed that not a single 'source' has come from Banking or Finance sectors. I would expect the leaks to come from there since those are the guys dealing with the money.
 
I think Juve are using Italian journos to show that are putting up a fight, but in reality they are happy to sell, hence DiMarzio getting Andre Gomez info wrong, Juve probably fed him it to suit their narrative.
 
Growing tired of checking this thread now. I swear the last 30 odd pages have just been tweets rehashing the same information over and over coupled in with people shitting themselves that Madrid are going to hijack the deal.

Its actually mostly people cribbing about people worrying about Madrid, even though the point has been made over and over again.
 
Here we go again. Joy late night, negativity through the day. Its like a vicious circle, just like all the failed transfers go.
 
Im always amazed that not a single 'source' has come from Banking or Finance sectors. I would expect the leaks to come from there since those are the guys dealing with the money.

NDA's? I think it would be easy to trace the source, and the chance of them losing future business may be not worth the risk
 
Growing tired of checking this thread now. I swear the last 30 odd pages have just been tweets rehashing the same information over and over coupled in with people shitting themselves that Madrid are going to hijack the deal.
I hear you. It's getting tiring watching people panic every time Madrid are mentioned.
 
I was wondering how ehsanul was going to spin the recent reports. Tancredi is just listing his own opinions, he doesn't know any more tha anyone else.
 
Why are people choosing to believe Big Tanc and AS over the Di Marzio crew, who say that whilst Madrid may be interested, they can't afford it?

I thought Di Marzio et all were considered way more reliable than the Tanc.
 
Santos Marquez(Eto'o and Makalele's agent) said in the past that Perez didn't like black players. It may be because he was bitter, but who knows, it could be true
 
Here we go again. Joy late night, negativity through the day. Its like a vicious circle, just like all the failed transfers go.

Yes but everyone knows how things pan out. Let's suppose Madrid told the truth and won't pay the money. Does anyone here actually think Madrid will disappear out of the narrative? No. But they feed on negative people. They feed on people who react to every tiny bit of news -true or otherwise. Interesting though isn't it? At no point have they said Madrid have an agreement with Pogba or his agent. It'll be fine :)

Ignore people saying him delaying maybe him waiting on them, they would have an agreement
 
I haven't read the debate but for me the whole stuff such as "X player is more marketable and therefore higher value" is rubbish (except when the said player is from a relatively untapped market, say like Kagawa or a Chinese/Indian player). As you said, the pure marketing value of a player is minuscule compared to the overall spending on the player. So if I am getting a player who is demonstrably better than another at the same price, I buy the first player regardless of any other consideration.

For any top tier club such as ours, winning trophies consistently is much more valuable than anything else. From a pure financial perspective, the revenue growth potential of a winner club over time is much higher than another top club, which say, qualifies for CL every year. And therefore any top player that will help in winning trophies would always command a premium valuation commensurate to the growth potential.

As an example, if we consider Cantona to be a key factor in our success in early nineties that allowed us to create a gap between us and Liverpool, how much value would we subscribe to him going back? I would say he would be immensely valuable (in 1990s prices of course) irrespective of his marketing potential.

I agree, and that is the point I was trying to make. From the club's perspective what really makes real difference in winning stuff, not simply getting a marketable player. Take for example the the Adidas deal, which is a minimum £750m guaranteed over a 10 year period that goes up or down based on our performance. We lose 30% of the payment due for the year if we are out of the CL for 2 consecutive seasons but we get an extra sum if we win the league or the champions league in a season. They have a get out clause if the club is relegated during the length of the deal. I am guessing most deals are structured that way.

 
Why are people choosing to believe Big Tanc and AS over the Di Marzio crew, who say that whilst Madrid may be interested, they can't afford it?

I thought Di Marzio et all were considered way more reliable than the Tanc.
I'd say it's due to the past history of Madrid wanting someone and getting them without trouble.
They see Madrids name mentioned against a player who we're after, and start to panic. After Vidal, Thiago, Sneijder etc, muppets have become fragile
 
This. Well put and I think you're spot on RE: Scholes and co.

Odd that you think he is spot on with that speculative post when he conveniently omits that :
- Pogba was totally over-run and looked clueless in the few matches he was handed game time (which were against rather poor opposition)
- That the Pogba that plays/played at Juve does not play in Scholes or Carricks position.
- That season we were in a tight title race that we ended up losing, Would you give a young player that previously showed he couldn't cope against poor opposition game time? (The drawback being totally crushing his confidence, because he'd have got abuse if he played like he did in his first games, and he'd have been hooked too).

But for some it is an agenda, whereas proof was in the pudding. The funny thing is that the Euro's proved he still can't play in central midfield.
 
I'd say it's due to the past history of Madrid wanting someone and getting them without trouble.
They see Madrids name mentioned against a player who we're after, and start to panic. After Vidal, Thiago, Sneijder etc, muppets have become fragile

Ah, but how many of those actually went to Madrid....
 
Looks like Zidane has confirmed Pogba interest,dont think we will be able to sign him now.We should have closed the deal ages ago,same old Mr Woodward.

Mediaset are reporting Juventus board think that Madrid will make a counter offer for Pogba.I guess the deal is evenly poised.

Barca have signed Gomez,so does it bring Madrid back in the contention for Pogba? I hope not.

Can anyone fill me with optimism.Looks like we are about to lose out on another player to Madrid.

Mate El Confidential has written in their newspaper that Zidane and Pogba got in touch last night.They say Pogba is more inclined to join Madrid.

Jonas Giæver ‏@CheGiaevara 2m2 minutes ago
Onda Cero are speculating whether or not the failure to sign André Gomes now "activates the Pogba option" for Real Madrid. Might go back in.

Chippy Rick ‏@Ch1ppyR1ck 11m11 minutes ago
So @tancredipalmeri on @talkSPORTLive says #RMCF are going big for #Pogba

A poster said this is what he said.I hope this is not true.

According to Tancredi and Spanish press Madrid are back in for Pogba.If Madrid are back in then we know how it will end up.

:lol: ffs
 
Odd that you think he is spot on with that speculative post when he conveniently omits that :
- Pogba was totally over-run and looked clueless in the few matches he was handed game time (which were against rather poor opposition)
- That the Pogba that plays/played at Juve does not play in Scholes or Carricks position.
- That season we were in a tight title race that we ended up losing, Would you give a young player that previously showed he couldn't cope against poor opposition game time? (The drawback being totally crushing his confidence, because he'd have got abuse if he played like he did in his first games, and he'd have been hooked too).

But for some it is an agenda, whereas proof was in the pudding. The funny thing is that the Euro's proved he still can't play in central midfield.

You are going too much by the Euros I think. It is remarkable to think that he was not ready to be played in the United team even when all other central midfielders were injured, after he did what he did at Juventus. Clearly the player was justified in thinking that he was entitled to the first team. Also I don't remember that Pogba was that clueless or was overrun in United's first team.