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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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The cost has never and will never change so I dont know why the Spanish press keep pushing this talk.

And we would never go this deep in a transfer (bidding more and more) without having guaranteed assurances Pogba will sign with us.

Sometimes I really wish we had a paper(s) that pushed our agenda to the public too.

"Pogba wants to return to United. Although Zidane was a great player, Paul considers Jose as the best manager in the game and one that will take his game to the next level. Pogba has also previously said that the only team in Spain he would join is Barcelona and that he admires Leo Messi more than Madrids Ronaldo, who he considers less of a team player"

Imagine the headline::drool:

Pogba:"I will never play for a coach that can't grow hear."
 
Think you mean 'crock' in Gundogan. Who would you prefer. A unfit player with several long-term injuries, or a 23 year old uninjured player with no injury history? I think we all know Pogba is better than Gundogan anyway. To call Pogba a joker, is just laughable. Good job on giving me a laugh this morning. You denied you are a WUM earlier in this thread. The more and more i see your posts, the more i think you're 'trying' your best to be one.

I admit this morning I'm just trying to keep the thread count up toward the target/record so I'm not going to say anything new. However I stand over everything I've posted. Pogba is a joker.

To be honest I take exception to being called a WUM. That says more about your muppetry than my 'attempts' at humour.
 
I agree with some quotes from Scholsey, but comparing Gundogan and Pogba, its insane. Tell me one thing in which Gundogan is better? Acceleration, passing, long balls, sprints, long distance sprints with the ball, changing direction, and it goes on and on .. Gundogan can create something thats not questionable, but we need a player with all this attributes (even more) and stamina.

Aggression.
 
This delay is letting stories like these exist. If he hasn't signed off then how have we agreed terms with him?
Could have agreed terms in principle - with all parties (Juve, Pogba, Raiola) but not yet signed off because Pogba is still hoping that Real can scrape together the funds (probably needs them to sell James or another player)
 


"Wednesday, barring any unforeseen circumstances Pogba the day (he signs) for Man Utd. 120m, 20m devided by player and family."
 
It is of course but if (and I know it's a big one) he stays fit, City will have picked up a better player for a fraction of the Pogba fee. I'd bet Fergie would put on Gudongan sooner than re-sign Pogba.

Better player, Pogba was more successful in Europe than him in the last 3 seasons
 
Doesn't surprise me that he hangs around with a headcase like Chad Johnson!
I agree. To be fair, judging from his stupid Instagram photos and videos, Pogba seems like maybe even a bigger head case than Chad Johnson. And certainly seems worse than Memphis, who is constantly criticised for being too "flashy". But then again, as long as it doesn't affect Pogba's actual play on the field, who cares?
 
It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).

It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.

Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.
Alternatively, Scholes is emblematic of the kind of senior United player who always thinks he knows best...partly because SAF mistakenly viewed their pithiness as plain-speaking common sense when it was often sheer arrogance and self-righteousness. Note that Scholes is swift to imply that Pogba leaving was about money, and omits to mention the specific elephant in the room: Scholes and co taking Pogba's place in the team and so stunting the player's development. These senior players love to play the worldly and selfless mentor but they're all too often about self-interest.
 
I agree. To be fair, judging from his stupid Instagram photos and videos, Pogba seems like maybe even a bigger head case than Chad Johnson. And certainly seems worse than Memphis, who is constantly criticised for being too "flashy". But then again, as long as it doesn't affect Pogba's actual play on the field, who cares?
Maybe don't do that?
 
It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).

It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.

Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.

Its an interesting argument and there may well be something in it. Then again, there may not. Its all very speculative.
 
I don't really watch Serie A so only really seen bits and pieces of Pogba since he left United

The type of player that he reminds me of is a Steven Gerrard in his prime - dynamically driving forward from the midfield into attack - is this a fair comparison? I hope so, because that sort of player would be fantastic.
 
Also i think the Scholes comment might be a fergie brief, i think he is fuming we have gone so big in for him as it makes his decision look wrong. Personally for me Scholes was a great player, but hi opinions are wide of the mark.
 
I don't really watch Serie A so only really seen bits and pieces of Pogba since he left United

The type of player that he reminds me of is a Steven Gerrard in his prime - dynamically driving forward from the midfield into attack - is this a fair comparison? I hope so, because that sort of player would be fantastic.

A more technical version perhaps. Hopefully if we get him, he steps up even more. He's certainly capable if we were to use him properly.
 
Maybe don't do that?
Okay, boss. It was just a little rant - and respond to the fact that he's hanging out with Chad Johnson(and that busty "journalist" et al). But then again, as long as it doesn't affect his footballing ability it doesn't matter to me.
 
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I'm starting to think that the only thing holding this deal up is the writing of Pogba's statement that will address every single nonsense headline put out by pro Madrid news outlets.
 
How does that make him a better player? David De Gea has been the best keeper in the world for the past three seasons. He hasn't exactly had much success in Europe has he?

Well he was a key catalyst in that success, the stats don't lie, what has Gundogan done recently
 
I don't really watch Serie A so only really seen bits and pieces of Pogba since he left United

The type of player that he reminds me of is a Steven Gerrard in his prime - dynamically driving forward from the midfield into attack - is this a fair comparison? I hope so, because that sort of player would be fantastic.
I think it's a fair comparison and one I've seen a few people make. Pogba also has the advantage of being bigger and stronger. He has the potential to be an all-round world class midfielder. Which is why opinions like Gundogan is better, or Matuidi is a decent alternative, are utterly bizarre.
 
Same old news. Pogba agreed two weeks ago ffs (apparently).
 
A more technical version perhaps. Hopefully if we get him, he steps up even more. He's certainly capable if we were to use him properly.
Even better, Gerrard didn't have a great first touch at times, but we have been really lacking a player who drives us forward from the middle
 
Could have agreed terms in principle - with all parties (Juve, Pogba, Raiola) but not yet signed off because Pogba is still hoping that Real can scrape together the funds (probably needs them to sell James or another player)
But be had to ask to leave Juve for this to go through though.
He hasn't even agreed a deal with Madrid. It makes no sense to me but maybe it's just me.
 
Well he was a key catalyst in that success, the stats don't lie, what has Gundogan done recently

Signed for city. Not sure I agree with the idea that Pogba was the catalyst for Juve's dominance of Italian football. Buffon breaking the clean sheet record last season for example was a huge part of their story. The previous year Tevez was on fire.
 
when was Riaola's fee confirmed to be done?
Eh? You were drooling over a tweet that Pogba has agreed terms. He did this apparently a couple of weeks ago. Just same rehashed shite again.
 
Look at Juve's accounts, they can't afford to buy Higuain without selling Pogba first. They are a well run club but they can't afford to buy a player for nearly 100m euro's without selling first. They only made a profit in their last accounts because they made a good profit on player sales, wages to turnover is at 66% which is likely to increase again in the 2015/16 accounts.

Juve fans can say what they want but they simply are not in a financial position to sign Higuain whilst keeping Pogba.