He never said Aubameyang was going to sign for City. He said a bid was accepted but it was widely reported Aubameyang's demands were ridiculous and City didn't go for it in the end.
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So what Pogba deal would also be amortized
What does it matter, if they spend €94m that gets amortized over 5 years or not, they will still need to make that money from somewhere. That is why I said it would more sense to me Juve are guaranteed the Pogba money before they spend it on Higuain because if they don't they will be left with a huge amortization cost on their books for the next 5 years, which doesn't sound like good business.
How the money is accounted for in the books has aboslutley nothing to do with the economical concept that you need money before you can spend it.
Except we supposedly have an agreement with Pogba and its Juve who dont want to agree terms. If this deal fails its because Juve have put a price that is too high.
Juve will never get a bigger offer for one of their players than this.
I didn't talk about amortisation, I just tried to show why it's not a big deal for Juventus. Ironically, by doing that I showed to myself why I shouldn't worry about +100m for Pogba.
No he won't. Transfer ban and small details like that.
So he'd essentially have to stay two more years a Juventus, if he wants Real over us and they aren't in for him now.
So he'd essentially have to stay two more years a Juventus, if he wants Real over us and they aren't in for him now.
Madrid are likely to have a transfer ban next summer.
We need to stop with all this Madrid bogeyman nonsense
They reached the final when Pogba was injured and missed all of the knockout stage.
My point is a lot of people are claiming Juve are this super power while their results in Europe fail to back this up.
To morgage their signings on the results of a competition that they have been pathetic in is financial suicide.
Same thing when people ask why he doesn't want to win The CL with Juve.
Just wait until you're 32 for your next shot Paul. For a team who have lost 7 out of 8 finals.
People have to comprehend where Juve are and it's not among the elite.
Madrid's transfer ban?
Pogba is the next big thing though. Even if his value were to drop a little bit it's pretty much guaranteed we can have 100 million for him if we ever do decide to sell him. So there is definitely no need for us to sell him unless he makes it clear he wants out.
Surely Woodward won't allow himself to look foolish yet again, being unable to land a big target. He's already the laughing stock amongst CEO's of major clubs.
Dani Alves would have had a signing on fee and will be on good wages.
You need to factor in their wage budget! They can't afford to have so many new faces who will no doubt be in higher wages than the outgoing players.
Factor in the 94M of Higuain, plus his wages (will be the best paid alongside Pogba) and they've had a very expensive summer. Pogba would also want a pay rise.
They simply can't afford it, all this news in the media is just Juve posturing and attempting to flex their tiny muscles.
My sentiments exactly, I'm getting to the stage where I couldn't give a shite either way.
But if he does sign I will be like a kid at Christmas !!
When you said they can pay 23 Million without selling i thought you were talking about amortizing instead on Net spend.
I agree with your points. Looks like many are underestimating Juventus finances, they are in very healthy position and can spend on Higuain without selling Pogba.
You have love how most of the journos on twitter are reporting that Pogba could stay at Juventus because Di Marzio said there is a remote possibility of it.
Surely that must be enough proof for anyone that all twitter is about is clickbait. Pretty much all of them have removed the word remote in their titles.
Surely that must be enough proof for anyone that all twitter is about is clickbait. Pretty much all of them have removed the word remote in their titles.
The Vidal vibes are so strong. There will be a reason this is taking so long. It's now 2 and a half weeks since it was reported we were in talks and had agreed terms. We are relying on the same info being recycled day by day, and most reliable outlets aren't saying anything. If there is no progression this week he will stay I think.
I don't think its as guaranteed. United have the money and desperation this summer, that might not be the case going forward. Will anyone else ever offer 100m plus for a midfielder in the near future?
But I also see it from their point of view, 80m in 2 years time is a good price for someone who could play a part in their CL adventures.
Problem is we do need someone don't we? The last few years have proven that beyond doubt and we simply cannot go into next season with the squad as it is right now. Mourinho is a great manager but not a miracle worker. I think even the most ardent and optimistic United fan would not disagree with that - unless your name is Twigginator of course.
The question therefore is, if not Pogba then who? Which player of genuine quality could we sign that would make a real difference and just as importantly is that player available? And please no one say Matuidi.
Amortization is an accounting principal that specifies how capital expenditure gets taken into cost.
It has nothing to do with cashflow.
That 94m they pay for Higuain could be paid in whatever kind of form, maybay half now, half next year or all at once. That is just cash going from 1 bankaccount to another, how exactly they do that will be part of the negotiations. How Juve has to account for spending 94m on player registrations that is an accounting principle and IFRS rules say for intangible assets like player registrations it should be amortized over the duration in which it creates economical benefits for the company, which in this case is the contract duration of the player. It is actually entirely the same as how capital expenditures for tangible assets get accounted for in the costs by depreciation.
So again what the feck does an accounting principle has to do with Higuain or Pogba being linked or not ? Either Juve doesn't need to sell Pogba to buy Higuain because they have enough money from other resources or they don't and they are obviously linked. How everything gets paid and definatley how everything gets accounted for it in the books has fecking nothing to do with this.
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Did you read "amortisation" even once in that post?
in addition to being a very arrogant and annoying person.
Which is what I'm trying to say. They do have the money, all things considered.
I think people use the word "amortisation" to try and appear clever without knowing what it means!
It looked like a sure thing a few days ago now I'm not so sure. 
Seems like they're trying to price us out of the deal, if we accept they get a ridiculous sum that probably wont be beat in a life time, and if we refuse they get to keep a outstanding young player who's value will keep on rising.
I'm starting to wonder who our fallback options are, we shouldn't let this drag out too long.
Seems like they're trying to price us out of the deal, if we accept they get a ridiculous sum that probably wont be beat in a life time, and if we refuse they get to keep a outstanding young player who's value will keep on rising.I'm starting to wonder who our fallback options are, we shouldn't let this drag out too long.
From what i can gather, people are saying that Juventus have rejected our offer because of what Di Marzio said about Juventus wanting more money.
My 2 cents were on James but after him coming out and saying I want to stay in Madrid and all that blabla and Madrid looking like trying to keep their squad together and everything, it seems unlikley he'd be the alternative.
Is he? Have you got anything to base this assertion on or is it just an assessment of your own?
Funny cause he didn't even use the word to which the quote was replied to.
the amortisation debate is brilliantIll be honest, if Real nip in and nick him for what Juve are asking, so be it. We're super rich but we need to set a precedent.
Precedent as in our limits?
What is the opposite of suspended?
Anyway, SkyBet have done that on the Pogba next club market.
Anyway, SkyBet have done that on the Pogba next club market.
Seriously? How is this the fault of Woodward? Juventus are playing hardball as is their right to do.
I'm out now, way too much like previous sagas for me.
Couldn't care less if it didn't happen now either, it has become a saga. Wish we had quickly and quietly signed Gomes and another CB instead.
Couldn't care less if it didn't happen now either, it has become a saga. Wish we had quickly and quietly signed Gomes and another CB instead.
What do you mean, it should be spelled amortisation ?
Amortization is correct spelling aswell, one is american enlgish, the other is british english
The fecking experts in this thread, on everything from football finance to board level popularity, and everything in between!
Have a word with yourselves. You are embarrassing.
Have a word with yourselves. You are embarrassing.
fun readReopened the market
Nah, I'm talking about the accounting tool, did you read it in that post?