Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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Higuain is a top player as far as I'm concerned.
I wouldn't look at thing this way. The thing is, Messi and Ronaldo have been so dominant that the outcome about either of them clinching the ballon d'or is an obvious and forgone conclusion.
However if you have a player close to their level putting up decent results with their teams then I guaranty the media would easily propel them to Messi level. Let's say Neymar is in the Prem putting similar performances to the ones he's doing for Barca recently, I'm sure the British media would hype him to Messi level(even though he's not quite there yet but not to far either).
I mean most English players are quite overrated and the world as a whole seem to buy in what the British media feeds them. To this day most people(around the world) still think Rooney is still a top top player when in truth that stopped a few years ago. The new kids breaking through for England get elevated to high level and consequently ridiculously overrated yet the world seem to eat whatever stories and hype the British media feed them and consider them world class or top players, case in point the likes of Sterling etc.
The media know how to talk, feed people hyperbole and make people listen and believe to hypes. English being an universal language just facilitate this process of over hyping players.
Madrid back in it according to AS.
Don't think Juve quite have the pull to take Griezemann.
on the MASSIVE condition that James is sold to fund the deal.
I said before I didn't want this to drag out and that's exactly what's happening. The worse thing is the longer it goes on, the more painful it will be if we don't sign Pogba.
Pessimists fill my head. Are we sure it isnt Madrid who is giving the money for Higuain.
Well, Pogba has gone strength to strength since joining Juve. This is fact, not opinion.
Apart from money, if Pogba really values his career achievements over everything else then Juve is where he should stay for another year. Next season he can re-assess.
At present Juve (on pitch) are a better club than us. Based on a few months ago, we are dire. Our attackerrs are an embarrassement who struggle to score 2 goals per game. We do however, now have a top class manager. But Juve would argue that they too, have a top class manager.
In contrast, Juve just won their league. They now have the best striker in Italy joining them. and last season they made the 2nd round of the CL (not great, but better than us).
If Pogba stays, they'd probably consider themselves favourites to win the treble. That's how good Juve are.
The position which Juve are in right now...MUFC aspire to one day, be in that position. We are talking about breaking transfer fee records to be in Juve's position.
And lets talk about league finishes.
Our last 3 league finishes: 7, 4, 5.
Juve's last 3 league finishes: 1, 1, 1
I'm not 100% sure that you know how good/bad we actually are on the pitch.
For selfish reasons, like you, I hope Pogba joins us, but for his own career, he should stay put and wait to see what happens next season.
Riaola will prefer Pogba to move to us, as he can move Pogba later to Madrid and get another pay check.
Its not really dragging, the season doesn't start for weeks and the window even longer. It just feels like it is because we sit in here pressing f5.
The little voice in your head will vanish after you see us winning the league and taking the CL by storm the following year.
Not sure if he is a 'mercenary cnut' but if you have apprehensions over loyalty, its fair enough. I don't think business quite works like that and I don't need everyone to be a fan as long as there is no lack of effort. Also, if you are looking at players who only wants to play for United, then most likely are going to miss out on a lot of players. I see you wanted Kante (albeit different kind of players), but do you know if Kante truly wanted to play for us? or did he get the benefit of the doubt magically?
How can they be, when we've agreed with all parties and subsequently he's only a signature away from joining us? It's a done deal.
Can't folk just move on to another thread? Fabinho?
No. He's entitled to the one fee. 20% of the transfer fee which is a clause in Pogbas Juve contract. 20% of €120m is €24m or rather 20% of £100m is £20m. It's not 2 separate fees. It's one fee. People have gotten themselves confused unnecessarily.
And United will of course pay both Pogba and Raiola a signing on fee/bonus but that certainly wont be £20m
Well, if its stardom a player wants, then he should wait another year and hope Madrid come in for him. DDG wanted this. Ronaldo, too. Di Maria was unwanted by Madrid, so went to PSG.
When was the last time an EPL player got the BallonD'or award?
And when was the last time a Spanish league player to the BallonD'or?
This is the Summer's biggest transfer saga. Every MUFC fan (whether they admit it or not), loves a transfer saga during the off-season.
Question: Can't folk just move on to another thread?
Answer: HELL NO!!!
For anyone trawling through Twitter be wary of a fake Mino Raiola account, nearly gave me a heart attack.
Which part of Real Madrid have a transfer ban next year do we not understand?
My guess is on Monday.
This is the Summer's biggest transfer saga. Every MUFC fan (whether they admit it or not), loves a transfer saga during the off-season.
Question: Can't folk just move on to another thread?
Answer: HELL NO!!!
We could lock it till he's signed?!
Mods?
Noooo.
Mmmmm nice "balanced" opinion there
That'd be incredibly boring when we're on for a transfer record and thread post record.
This itself can lead to a big muppet meltdown.
What I wrote completely flew over you. I'm not talking about pitch performances and such, I'm talking about marketability with each club.
Even now despite having gone 3 horrible seasons compared to Juventus who've reached some highs, we're still a far more marketable option than Juve and the EPL also allows for far more exposure than Serie A.
Everyone already know that Juventus have currently a better squad then us but even that is bound to change rather sooner than later given the resources we have compared to them. While us despite missing CL football this we're still able to attract and bring in payers while Juve keep losing their key players year after year(Vidal last year).
A year or 2 from now, we're likely to end up with a stronger team then Juve, and better equipped to fight for the CL. These are the fact(well with some projections which might or might not get to be but the likelihood of us getting back up are higher). We get Pogba this year we reinforce, with CL likely next year we'll be in an ever better position to bring in more quality with our resources, meanwhile Juve can't easily pull such things off and are rather likely to lose another key player.
You should go out, go for a hike or read a book or somehing. Take a Pogba break.
Lol even mods are in it. Close the thread then if it's done !
I have full confidence that as soon as we wrap this deal up that the Fabinho thread will be in full swing along with the Manolas one.
For better or worse this thread will go down in Caf folklore
is it likely that this medical was done in Madrid to try and hide the signing? So when pogba leaves for MUFC, juve could quickly counter the rage with a "surprise" signing? I mean there was no way a medical like this in turin would stay silent.. Just so happens, unfortunately, to be ruined by release of medical records.
I agree for most of it. Madrid will get a transfer ban so the wait will be 2 years though. Also, Pogba may have some personal statement to make towards United but from a career perspective, indeed, Juventus is still a more valid option.
that's a lot of mula
They were second last season and were competing for championship at one point.
This is complete and utter BS
My contribution to the shit fest!
quoting accounts like unitedreport should result in an immediate threadban
(generally, not just this op) those accounts lie and twist proper reports