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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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prath92 said:
He was a wonderkid. We clearly wanted him badly. I don't see it as being moneyminded. We must be doing this for most transfers of such kids. This came to the fore because his club made an issue.

He was on the same wage at juve that he was on at United. He had little to no financial gain. If anything he would have signed a new contract here if he wanted more money.
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The people at Le Harve wouldn't agree with that. He very much left under a cloud and they accused us of tapping him up for 'a very large sum of money'.
 
RDCR07 said:
One simple question to this Pogba and his agent wanting more money to stay - then why did Fergie agree to the demands of Rooney and his agent?
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Are you referring to 2010? That was after Ronaldo's departure. Rooney was our only remaining star man who scored 30+ league goals in the previous season, and was still the Rooney we loved.
 
Red Bug said:
Just been for a swim and we still haven't signed him.

I am feeling calm about it again now though.

Juve signing Higuain means one of two things:

1. They are building a monster of a team to win the CL next season, Pogba being part of that.

2. Money from the sale of Pogba means they are getting in all of their targets quickly before it's made official that Juventus are all of a sudden €120m cash rich.
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They haven't got the money to splurge £80m on players, and turn down £100m bids.
 
RetroStu said:
Higuan :lol:, i can't stop laughing. He's 29 and IMO not very good.
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Juve wanted the best/highest goal scorer of the Italian League.
That was Higuain.
In case people are unaware,
top score Hig (36)
2nd highest scorer (19)

So statistically, Higuain is by some margin, the best striker in the Italian League.
 
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Without selling any players, how have Juventus got €100m to spend on players? Is there a chance their finances are that good they have that amount of cash?
 
Rory 7 said:
The people at Le Harve wouldn't agree with that. He very much left under a cloud and they accused us of tapping him up for 'a very large sum of money'.
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Of course they would. But they paid his parents not him and he quite clearly moved to a better club for his development

He did the same 3 years later for the same wage. Mercenary? Not really.
 
crossy1686 said:
Without selling any players, how have Juventus got €100m to spend on players? Is there a chance their finances are that good they have that amount of cash?
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They have the money but more t the point, Juve have been notoriously greedy with money. So for them to sanction a huge transfer like this, they probably know its coming back.
 
This is based on nothing other than Juve meeting the buyout clause for Higuain, but I think the Pogba deal is pretty much done (as in, they're resigned to selling him this summer).
 

Reporting that after the alleged Higauin deal a sale of Pogba is now "mandatory".
 
Given the lots at Juventuz keep talking about Pogba ambition about the ballon d'or and seeing how he is a bot of a show off and show boat, he'd be smart to make this move to us in order to gain much more exposure and the prestige of being seen as the world most expensive player.

He gets to lose CL football for a year(he is still very young) but gain much more in return, the likes he'd never dream of accomplishing at Juventus, starting with far more global exposure + hype(British media can almost on their own manage to get a player winning individual awards due to the fact they can feed the mass with over exaggerated hype if they like a narrative).

I don't even need to talk about money and such, he'll practically double his wages.
 
prath92 said:
Of course they would. But they paid his parents not him and he quite clearly moved to a better club for his development

He did the same 3 years later for the same wage. Mercenary? Not really.
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I'd say Juve fans agree with me. Anyway as I said earlier if we sign him I hope I'm proved wrong. And I also hope he gets a better haircut!
 
Santoryo said:
Given the lots at Juventuz keep talking about Pogba ambition about the ballon d'or and seeing how he is a bot of a show off and show boat, he'd be smart to make this move to us in order to gain much more exposure and the prestige of being seen as the world most expensive player.

He gets to lose CL football for a year(he is still very young) but gain much more in return, the likes he'd never dream of accomplishing at Juventus, starting with far more global exposure + hype(British media can almost on their own manage to get a player winning individual awards due to the fact they can feed the mass with over exaggerated hype if they like a narrative).

I don't even need to talk about money and such, he'll practically double his wages.
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I think that's being harsh on Juve as a club. They are massive.
 
When he finally signs for us, shall we do an invasion of a certain salty forum we all know about? :drool:
 
With these astronomical fees being bandied around (the Higuain deal even more so than the Pogba one) have we now gone way beyond the point of a financially unsustainable, and more crucially irreversible, footballing world? I'm not so sure myself as my grandad, who was disgusted about how money orientated football had become, used to constantly tell me even back in the early nineties that one day the 'bubble will burst'. Accept here were are in 2016 with the transfer record yet again set to be shattered while the 'business' itself just seems to plough on without any kind of decline or even crash seemingly on the horizon.
 
prath92 said:
There are 2 fees that raiola is entitled to.

One is based on his agreement with juve whereby he gets a % (reported to be 20%) of the fee juve receives for Pogba. Other is a 20m fee which United promised to pay if he gets us ibra, mkhitariyan and Pogba (maybe matuidi too).

Issue now is juve was offered 100m but they would get only 80m of this as they have to pay 20m to raiola. So they quoted 125m so that they receive 100m and agent gets 25m. This is supposed to be the issue whereby juve wants 100m for themselves. I guess they assumed raiola might forego his share since he is pushing for a move
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I see - thanks
 
Santoryo said:
Given the lots at Juventuz keep talking about Pogba ambition about the ballon d'or and seeing how he is a bot of a show off and show boat, he'd be smart to make this move to us in order to gain much more exposure and the prestige of being seen as the world most expensive player.

He gets to lose CL football for a year(he is still very young) but gain much more in return, the likes he'd never dream of accomplishing at Juventus, starting with far more global exposure + hype(British media can almost on their own manage to get a player winning individual awards due to the fact they can feed the mass with over exaggerated hype if they like a narrative).

I don't even need to talk about money and such, he'll practically double his wages.
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The last player from EPL who made top 3 in Ballon D'Or is Cristiano Ronaldo in 2009, right?

I think that they feed the masses which are EPL fans, not to the others. EPL players haven't done well in Ballon D'Or or FIFPro teams, although a large reason for that is the lack of top quality players in EPL.
 
elnorte said:
With these astronomical fees being bandied around (the Higuain deal even more so than the Pogba one) have we now gone way beyond the point of a financially unsustainable, and more crucially irreversible, footballing world? I'm not so sure myself as my grandad, who was disgusted about how money orientated football had become, used to constantly tell me even back in the early nineties that one day the 'bubble will burst'. Accept here were are in 2016 with the transfer record yet again set to be shattered while the 'business' itself just seems to plough on without any kind of decline or even crash seemingly on the horizon.
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We're still spending a comparable percentage of our income to what we used to though; we just happen to earn a ridiculous amount more than we used to.
 
I'm torn if Pogba signs I'll be amazed and delighted but a little voice in my head will be saying he doesn't want to be here...he does not want to be here...
 
I hope we get him soon. I've been neglecting my family for days now refreshing this thread.
The fee doesn't trouble me. One of the biggest names in football, still very young. This deal will also bloat the market fees even higher, making it harder for our rivals to bring in their targets.
 
Massive Spanner said:
I think that's being harsh on Juve as a club. They are massive.
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No I'm not talking about the clubs but the league(EPL) which bring far more exposure than Serie A or any other league in the world.

Juventus is of course a huge club, there is no doubt about it and I would never disrespect them by claiming otherwise, but Serie A still doesn't get as much exposure(or anywhere near close) as the PL which is what someone like Pogba would(or should) certainly be looking for if he want more stardom and such.

The media over here hype players to heaven. Given the seasons Pogba had in Serie A, had he been doing his stuff in the Prem, he'd have been hyped a lot more than he currently is.
 
Traub said:
Not on the zlatan scale. He'll be 36 by the time the season starts.
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Yeah that was kind of my point, as everyone was laughing at oppo fans saying Zlatan's 35yr, so it's kind of funny to add years for other players ;)
 
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