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Ain't no one paying that much for Lukaku.
Why have prices suddenly jumped up to a ridiculous level?, 94mil for Higuan, 50mil for stones, 75mil for Lakuka, 120mil for Pogba. Christ how much would Griezman go for, £200mil?, Ronaldo and Messi?.
Its crazy at the minute and i don't know whats suddenly happened to cause this. Has every league had a new bumber tv rights deal or something?
So let me get this right. You'd want Kante or Matuidi in our MF next season along side the dross that is already there. Not one creative player in our MF at the moment, not one. Yet you want someone more combative?
Why have prices suddenly jumped up to a ridiculous level?, 94mil for Higuan, 50mil for stones, 75mil for Lakuka, 120mil for Pogba. Christ how much would Griezman go for, £200mil?, Ronaldo and Messi?.
Its crazy at the minute and i don't know whats suddenly happened to cause this. Has every league had a new bumber tv rights deal or something?
Just read the threadmark about Allegri. So is this on or off? Did the meltdown already start?
Agree with your concern to some extend.
That year we were closely contesting with City for the title and Sir Alex opted for experience when players were unavailable. Mind you, Pogba wasn't exactly lightening up the reserves at the time, more of a case of uninterested as he thought he was ready for the first team. SAF, as I read here at the time, didn't take it too kindly and wanted him to show more professionalism. Pogba didn't stand out in his first team games either, granted he was only 18-19 and the games were few and far between.
Regardless, I am confident he would have been promoted permanently the following season. In the end, he was impatient but in hindsight made the right career choice. I am not sure he would have developed at such rate if he had stayed with us considering our last three seasons and the state of our midfield that still persists.
I believe the chances of him staying here for majority of his prime is higher now than if he had never left 4 years ago.
You would think not but thats what Everton want for him, and you never know in this market.Ain't no one paying that much for Lukaku.
Late last night Mike Keegan posted a quote from Allegri confirming Juve were negotiating with United for Pogba. Hash tweeted a transcript of an interview from Allegri (the one quoted in the threadmark) that didnt say anything about negotiations "proving" that Keegan was making it up, except the interview Hash posted was a different one from yesterday morning so didnt prove jack shit.
Currenty, it seems more on by the second with Higuain seemingly going to Juve for 98m Euros now.
Till yesterday I thought no one was going to pay 94m for Higuain to be fair.Ain't no one paying that much for Lukaku.
At least the 50% are having the time of their lives. They are signing the second most expensive player as well as keeping their prized asset, for a few more days.50% of Juventuz having a meltdown and the other 50% in denial. Looking forward to a full meltdown when he leaves.
With that being said, they are probably equally looking forward to our meltdown if he goes to Madrid.
Which is a part of the story not often mentioned. Essentially, Fergie refused to be dictated to by a kid and his agent. Which is exactly what you'd expect from Fergie. You could argue that we should have been smarter about Pogba's contract - leaving us with more leverage, if you will, but at the end of the day it was a matter of principle.
Pogba was a top talent, nobody will deny that. But top talents don't always turn into to top players. He was also someone who - clearly - had a high opinion of himself. He thought hanging around, applying himself, waiting for his chance - and so forth - was beneath him. Fair enough - that's his opinion, and he is talented, so perhaps he's right to make a move. That doesn't mean Alex Ferguson is wrong not to bend over for him - and his agent. An agent who by all accounts had been in contact with Juventus for a good while - and who had a vested interest in making the move happen (if not now, then next year - or, if Pogba took big enough steps, not Juve, but someone bigger and richer).
Again, we could have timed it better - making sure he had a longer contract. But Pogba's attitude and the presence of his agent (not least), wasn't something Fergie was prepared to "get over" in order to make sure he stayed on our books. I don't blame him for that at all. The muppets on here don't give a feck about principles, of course - they just see what they want to see, and completely ignore the part Raiola played (which was probably the biggest red flag for Fergie).
Who are those creative players in a MF three that you speak of? There are no alternatives to Pogba, that's the thing. There is no other player around that has his all round attributes. You watched him play at the Euro's, out of position, in a team that was managed by a spoof of a manager in Deschamps. I think you need to see him play his natural position for 90 minutes. And seriously, his hair pisses you off? Grow up manYep. A bit more steel. We have creativity going forward. Yes of course we need to improve but if we stop passing the ball sideways like we did under Van Gaal and get our midfielders playing with greater tempo I think we have plenty of creativity. Who would your alternative to Pogba be?
Higuan , i can't stop laughing. He's 29 and IMO not very good.
Who are those creative players in a MF three that you speak of? There is not alternatives to Pogba, that's the thing. There is no other player around that has his all round attributes. You watched him play at the Euro's, out of position, in a team that was managed by a spoof of a manager in Deschamps. I think you need to see him play his natural position for 90 minutes. And seriously, his hair pisses you off? Grow up man
Muppets, I'm out for the next 9/10 hours!
When I'm back, I want Pogba done
One simple question to this Pogba and his agent wanting more money to stay - then why did Fergie agree to the demands of Rooney and his agent?
If we do re-sign him I hope all of ye are proved right and I'm proved wrong. Just seems to me he isn't all that bothered about playing for United. If he was he wouldn't have left in the first place. After all the only players ahead of him in the pecking order were a 35 year old asthmatic and a Brazillian fullback. If he was as great as you were all making out he would have been first choice within 12 months. Seems like a mercenary Cnut to me. As I say I hope I'm proved wrong.
Perfectly explained.He just mishandled the situation that time. Probably trying to show Pogba who was boss by not giving into his demands to play first team football which in the long term was probably designed to further motivate him into showing he was ready. It was a man-management tactic that had worked for Fergie many times in the past but unfortunately on this occasion it backfired.
Then you must hate Memphis!
If he didn't want to play for United he wouldn't have signed for us at 15.
He left for juve because he wanted to play rather than see everyone being played ahead of him. It was a career choice which turned out to be the right choice. Nothing mercenary about that. Mercenaries would be guys who leave first team football to sit on the bench of bigger teams for higher wages. Guys like Rodwell, Patrick Roberts and all. Clearly it's the opposite here.
Two hours ago:
You just can't stay away
One simple question to this Pogba and his agent wanting more money to stay - then why did Fergie agree to the demands of Rooney and his agent?
It's deja vu all the time. It's like a broken record. Since the end of the EUROs it's been "next couple of days", "next week", "edging closer", "personal terms agreed with Pogba", "close to a deal with Juve", "no contact between Juve and United" with a single report of "Deal is done with United" and "Real Madrid hijacking Pogba" once in a while.Deja vu? Must've read the same tweet a couple of times before hroughout the week.
i love how some on /r/soccer are acting like this has little impact on pogba.
JUVE JUST TIED RONALDO's TRANSFER FEE!! Higuain is now going to be tied 2nd for largest transfer in world football.
OF COURSE this is pogba related
Higuan , i can't stop laughing. He's 29 and IMO not very good.
i love how some on /r/soccer are acting like this has little impact on pogba.
JUVE JUST TIED RONALDO's TRANSFER FEE!! Higuain is now going to be tied 2nd for largest transfer in world football.
OF COURSE this is pogba related
I've seen a lot of "Juve are only paying 47m this year and 47m next for him, so it has nothing to do with Pogba". Right, of course not
But that doesnt go along with the points you made and the posters you supported. You all said he was very unprofessional and Fergie never lets agent dictate him. Well, he did that time. Rooney being an established player doesnt play a part. So makes it okay to be a mercenary if you're in the first team but not if you trying to get into the first team?
He just mishandled the situation that time. Probably trying to show Pogba who was boss by not giving into his demands to play first team football which in the long term was probably designed to further motivate him into showing he was ready. It was a man-management tactic that had worked for Fergie many times in the past but unfortunately on this occasion it backfired.
Do you know anything about the circumstances in which we first signed him? Seriously.
I think this went under the radar with the excitement. 94 fecking million94mil for Higuan , and people think we are overpaying for Pogba.
Just been for a swim and we still haven't signed him.
I am feeling calm about it again now though.
Juve signing Higuain means one of two things:
1. They are building a monster of a team to win the CL next season, Pogba being part of that.
2. Money from the sale of Pogba means they are getting in all of their targets quickly before it's made official that Juventus are all of a sudden €120m cash rich.