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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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I got a conspiracy theory:
It's all a massive revenge plot engineered by Real Madrid in retaliation for the fax incident. Pogba is avenging his treatment by Fergie. We are all played to believe that we got him only for Madrid to unveil him on deadline day. His agent and Juve are all on board too. We are being trolled.

Joking, please don't take seriously.
 
Womp said:
Costa isn't world class, Sanchez was unwanted at Barca, Hazard came from a seller club French team, Ozil was unwanted, De Bruyne was half the price from a team that accepted they had no option but to sell. Not to add, none of those players are "world class", whilst most of them occupy positions we don't need, none of them are a proper CM, nor are they half as marketable as Pogba.
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I disagree with Sanchez and Hazard not being world class (maybe when they were sold they weren't world class), even though Hazard had a down year. Agree with the fact that other circumstances contributed to their respective transfer fees.
 
Orc said:
Can you really compare the difference between Kante and Pjanic with Kante and Pogba? That's a couple million £, not £80m. Not sure there are many who would have Pjanic over Kante anyways.

I don't want to derail the thread, though. I'm sure all of you will be delighted with Pogba and won't care about the fee, but that is an utterly mental price for a single player not named Messi, Ronaldo, or Neymar.
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Except you have with your wum attempt. Pogba is 10 times the player Kante is.
 
Orc said:
No one is comparing anyone as players, just the prices.
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You cannot compare the prices without giving off the impression you are comparing the player. We paid roughly the same price for Schneiderlin last summer as you have for Kante this summer. Pogba isn't the same type of player as either of them, in fact he is fully capable of being a mixture of both, on top of being a huge attacking threat. You have to pay big for that kind of player in todays market, no two ways about it. If nobody else will cough £100+ million for him and we can afford to do so, we'd be utterly daft to give up the opportunity.

Still not saying this will definitely happen, mind you.
 
And the same opposistion fans who come in here to tell us how stupid United are for paying such a crazy fee for a player are most likely the same ones who told us we were stupid for paying 36 million for Martial. I trust Mourinho's judgement on Pogba.
 
Rozay said:
Have all that believe he'll just be off to Madrid in 3 years if he's any good explained how Real, who are struggling to pay the 100m Juve are asking now, will just stump up heaven knows what we'll be demanding given out outlay?

He'll be on new deals every 2 years to protect our investment I imagine, and unless he agitates, his value will be ridiculous and I doubt any could afford him from outside PL or Paris.
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By that time they won't have the Zidane factor either as he'll probably have been sacked.
 
RetroStu said:
Except you have with your wum attempt. Pogba is 10 times the player Kante is.
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It wasn't a WUM attempt at all and Pogba isn't 10 times the player Kante is. He wouldn't have looked utterly hopeless playing in that France side this summer if he was.

He may have 10 times the talent and ceiling but that's not the same thing.
 
Orc said:
So Pogba is worth roughly 4 N'Golo Kante's? :wenger:
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Why do you want to compare your business with United's?

Seriously, rival fans seem to care about the price FAR more than most Utd fans I've seen. Obviously that's their perogative but it's a bit weird to me.

Never mind that "Pogba = Kante x4 WTF" is simpleton logic anyhoo
 
AltiUn said:
By that time they won't have the Zidane factor either as he'll probably have been sacked.
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Yea three years in football is a long time. We could be in much healthier situation then. Also we could potentially have different owners. Heard a few dits that Glazers are looking to cash in 2/3 years time.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
And the same opposistion fans who come in here to tell us how stupid United are for paying such a crazy fee for a player are most likely the same ones who told us we were stupid for paying 36 million for Martial. I trust Mourinho's judgement on Pogba.
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And the irony was it was a Chelsea fan saying it, a fecking Chelsea fan lol.
 
By the way, Juve turned down a 90mil Euro offer from Chelsea last summer so put that in your pipe and smoke it Chelsea fan.
 
ChaddyP said:
You talk alot of sense for a Juve fan :smirk:
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Visit a real Juve forum such as La Vecchia Signora and you will see they are sensible as well. They are not having a meltdown about this, but are not too fond of paying €90m+ on Higuain.
 
Gazza said:
Why do you want to compare your business with United's?

Seriously, rival fans seem to care about the price FAR more than most Utd fans I've seen. Obviously that's their perogative but it's a bit weird to me.

Never mind that "Pogba = Kante x4 WTF" is simpleton logic anyhoo
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RetroStu said:
And the irony was it was a Chelsea fan saying it, a fecking Chelsea fan lol.
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Read my posts again. I'm not criticizing United for spending the money, I'm questioning whether the player himself is actually worth it.

If you can afford it, spend it. I'm just saying I think he's overrated.
 
Orc said:
It wasn't a WUM attempt at all and Pogba isn't 10 times the player Kante is. He wouldn't have looked utterly hopeless playing in that France side this summer if he was.

He may have 10 times the talent and ceiling but that's not the same thing.
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Of course it was a wum attempt, a poor one as well, complete with the stupid :wenger: smiliel.
 
Orc said:
Right, I'm not disputing that. If you have the money, spend it.

Still mind boggling for a player that doesn't dominate games consistently or score 30, 40, or 50 goals. I know you're partly paying for what he can become rather than what he is now, but you could get 2, 3, or 4 world class players for this amount.
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Woah there. I mean, do you really believe that? Even two world class players is a stretch... Suarez went for between 60-75mil GBP and that was two years ago. De Bruyne and Martial will potentially cost that much each having been purchased last year, neither of whom were considered world class at the point of sale.
 
Orc said:
It wasn't a WUM attempt at all and Pogba isn't 10 times the player Kante is. He wouldn't have looked utterly hopeless playing in that France side this summer if he was.

He may have 10 times the talent and ceiling but that's not the same thing.
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One International tournament is an utterly hopeless way to judge a talent after a long season of football, and that doesn't only go for players, but managers too.
 
Orc said:
Read my posts again. I'm not criticizing United for spending the money, I'm questioning whether the player himself is actually worth it.

If you can afford it, spend it. I'm just saying I think he's overrated.
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While Leicester Citys Kante is worldclass amirite?
 
Orc said:
Read my posts again. I'm not criticizing United for spending the money, I'm questioning whether the player himself is actually worth it.

If you can afford it, spend it. I'm just saying I think he's overrated.
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Well I know you're not criticizing United, but my posts didn't assume you were. It was just a weird way of saying you think Pogba is overrated, which is not really an outlandish opinion. I think most people will call someone out if they make a post as inane as that one though!
 
Orc said:
Read my posts again. I'm not criticizing United for spending the money, I'm questioning whether the player himself is actually worth it.

If you can afford it, spend it. I'm just saying I think he's overrated.
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As others have said the marketing aspect has to be considered as well. As is the statement that we can outmuscle Real financially, that's important for sponsorship deals. I trust Mourinho and Woodward to make a deal that makes sense.
 
What a statement of a signing to go with the three we have already got.

I expect we will sell a few and add at least 1 or 2 more.

Fair play to Mourinho/Woody/Glazers for investing like this.
 
Orc said:
It wasn't a WUM attempt at all and Pogba isn't 10 times the player Kante is. He wouldn't have looked utterly hopeless playing in that France side this summer if he was.

He may have 10 times the talent and ceiling but that's not the same thing.
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Yeah and Kante was amazing sitting on the bench.

The overrating of Kante is ridiculous. He had a great season last year. But let's see what he does next season. He's nowhere near as good as Pogba.

Chelsea fans this time last year were raving about how Matic is one of the best CMs last year. So let's wait and see. Going from Leicester to Chelsea is a big step up in expectations.
 
RetroStu said:
While Leicester Citys Kante is worldclass amirite?
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You seem to be taking this really seriously, man. Are you okay? Your blood seems like it's boiling. Like you're taking it personally.
Gazza said:
Well I know you're not criticizing United, but my posts didn't assume you were. It was just a weird way of saying you think Pogba is overrated, which is not really an outlandish opinion. I think most people will call someone out if they make a post as inane as that one though!
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I don't think it's that outlandish to compare his price with those other top class players if that's the post you're talking about. I don't for example think Pogba will be any better in the PL than De Bruyne was in his fantastic season last year. I don think he'll run away with the Player of the Year trophy and carry a team to the title like Hazard did.
 
Once Rooney leaves in the next two years we'll need a new face for our sponsorships and marketing. Ibra is only here for a season and Pogba can definitely fill that void.
 
We could get 3 'world class' players for €140 million? I'd like to know who they are! Moving this summer!
 
Orc said:
You seem to be taking this really seriously, man. Are you okay? Your blood seems like it's boiling. Like you're taking it personally.
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And you seem to be talking absolute bollocks but what can you expect from a fan of plastic flag FC.
Don't wum and people won't call you out on it.
 
Bojan11 said:
Yeah and Kante was amazing sitting on the bench.

The overrating of Kante is ridiculous. He had a great season last year. But let's see what he does next season. He's nowhere near as good as Pogba.

Chelsea fans this time last year were raving about how Matic is one of the best CMs last year. So let's wait and see. Going from Leicester to Chelsea is a big step up in expectations.
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Never said Kante was better than Pogba. I suggested that it was crazy that Pogba is worth £80m more.
 
Pogba is one of the most marketable players in the world, he's also one of the best in the world in his position and the future belongs to him. We'll all soon forget is price tag when he's banging them in from thirty five yards and dabbing like a king! Get it done whatever the price!
 
People seem to think getting world class players from Juve, Bayern, Barca and Real Madrid is easy.

This isn't some mid table team that is going to sell so easily. Bids are going to have to be out of this world for the above clubs to sell world class players.
 
Who cares if the fee would buy you 23 Klavans, stop moaning everyone about the fee. I couldn't care if he was twice that rumoured fee. The owners have been milking us for years, attaching our club to everything for a cheap dollar. It's not your money and it will prove to be a good investment over time.

I'm all up for Pogba coming. I'm confident if we get Pogba we will win the league. Too much quality all over the pitch with an experienced manager, I think our squad would be good as anybodies. Hopefully this saga is coming to an end, one way our another. I haven't been as exciting for a season since RVP came.
 
RetroStu said:
And you seem to be talking absolute bollocks but what can you expect from a fan of plastic flag FC.
Don't wum and people won't call you out on it.
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You're the only one getting wound up. Everyone else is having sensible discussion. You're throwing out insults.
 
Orc said:
You seem to be taking this really seriously, man. Are you okay? Your blood seems like it's boiling. Like you're taking it personally.
I don't think it's that outlandish to compare his price with those other top class players if that's the post you're talking about. I don't for example think Pogba will be any better in the PL than De Bruyne was in his fantastic season last year. I don think he'll run away with the Player of the Year trophy and carry a team to the title like Hazard did.
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I think you misread my post or perhaps misunderstood some parts

My points that you picked up on

1. It's NOT outlandish to say "Paul Pogba is overrated relative to the price you're paying, imp" or whatever. The way you chose to do it, by suggesting he must be four times better than Kante, is just such a strange way to go about it, because we all know that's not how football transfer fees work. So I'm questioning your logic, not the opinion you've got.

2. My point about transfer fees is that you tried to suggest we could get as many as FOUR world class (!) players for that kinda money. I'm pointing out that two players who were bought more for potential than current world class ability changed hands for over 130 million GBP last summer. So I'm doubting your estimations.
 
Gazza said:
I think you misread my post or perhaps misunderstood some parts

My points that you picked up on

1. It's NOT outlandish to say "Paul Pogba is overrated relative to the price you're paying, imp" or whatever. The way you chose to do it, by suggesting he must be four times better than Kante, is just such a strange way to go about it, because we all know that's not how football transfer fees work. So I'm questioning your logic, not the opinion you've got.

2. My point about transfer fees is that you tried to suggest we could get as many as FOUR world class (!) players for that kinda money. I'm pointing out that two players who were bought more for potential than current world class ability changed hands for over 130 million GBP last summer. So I'm doubting your estimations.
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Okay, fair enough, I definitely exaggerated with the world class players bit.
 
Orc said:
You seem to be taking this really seriously, man. Are you okay? Your blood seems like it's boiling. Like you're taking it personally.
I don't think it's that outlandish to compare his price with those other top class players if that's the post you're talking about. I don't for example think Pogba will be any better in the PL than De Bruyne was in his fantastic season last year. I don think he'll run away with the Player of the Year trophy and carry a team to the title like Hazard did.
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Also... carry a team to the title like Hazard did? You might have to remind me of that one. I recall him winning POtY when you last won the league, but I don't recall anyone saying he carried your team that year, in fact if you can show me where you have stated such an opinion before I will perform a suitable internet gesture of respect your way
 
Gazza said:
Also... carry a team to the title like Hazard did? You might have to remind me of that one. I recall him winning POtY when you last won the league, but I don't recall anyone saying he carried your team that year, in fact if you can show me where you have stated such an opinion before I will perform a suitable internet gesture of respect your way
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Second half of that season after we were spanked by Spurs we depended heavily on moments of magic from Hazard to carry us through. Fabregas fell of, Costa fell off, Matic fell off. Hazard was consistently brilliant throughout and was the main reason we won the title.
 
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