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[Enigma_87]

I dont know I guess Woody got someone with a bit of nous to close the deals this time. But I thought it was widely known that Mendes is involved on this deal. I'd send you a link but im using my PS4 so I've no idea how to do it. Maybe someone could help me?

yeah, would be appreciated mate, either here or PM.

Mendes does this from time to time. He helped broker martial deal too i think. There were rumours of mendes working with Raiola for this. My guess is Mendes will use his considerable influence to get juve some midfield gem like Rubén neves or something for tuppence. Mendes could also give them a preference for matic using his influence with Roman. He is a very good guy to help.

Probably one reason for the really high quoted agent fees for that deal? I'm sure Mendes has a long arm in those kind of deals, but Raiola strikes me of a guy that would keep the lion share for himself.

 

[Donut]

Also, he slips more than any player I've ever seen.

More than Falcao?

 

[Jacky Quacky]

333 pages. Muppet season is really in full effect I just can't see it happening now but I'm sure the saga will pick up again next week. Unless one of Di Marzio's staff reports it i'm not taking anything some random has to say on Twitter.

why can't you see it happening?

 

[Enigma_87]

Mourinho plays 4-2-3-1, doesn't he? Pogba would be severly under-utilised in cdm position like he was with France NT.
If he plays at CAM, where would Rooney play? And Mata?
Don't see this happening tbh.

My take is Rooney will rotate with Ibra on top or either on the wing in the 4-2-3-1.

Mata would be as good as gone if Pogba comes as Jose would've signed 2 players that occupy his best position(s).

 

[RedorDead21]

why can't you see it happening?

Because the real muppet signings never have?

 

[Judas]

This is the one.

 

[Shakesy]

5 Minutes for most of the people moaning Forget success - that will come with Jose. Most people stopped moaning once they saw in Martials first game, what he could do.

Martial's output is closer to the £60 odd mil than Pogba's to the £100 mil we'll pay.
Opposition fans won't be swayed after 5 minutes. Not even 5 months of Gerrardesque performances will sway them.
For £100 mil, they would argue, you need to see Zidane levels.
And that is unfair on Pogba. I've only seen him play under pressure to perform in the CL and the Euros.
He didn't do too great in those.
Come to United for that amount and every journo will use that sum in their intro and every opposition fan will sing songs about it.
If he signs, and I think he will, be prepared for these eventualities.

 

[Creepy]

Who says Mendes is brokering the deal?

It's been circulating for a while now, that Mendes is on this deal.

yeah, would be appreciated mate, either here or PM.

Probably one reason for the really high quoted agent fees for that deal? I'm sure Mendes has a long arm in those kind of deals, but Raiola strikes me of a guy that would keep the lion share for himself.

Sorry mate, I meant I can't send you a link, as I'm using my PS4 and I don't know how to do it on it. Maybe someone else can post where it has been reported, it definitely has been reported, though.

Anyway run out of posts until 00:00 so can't post until tomorrow.

 

[zlatan_ish]

My take is Rooney will rotate with Ibra on top or either on the wing in the 4-2-3-1.

Mata would be as good as gone if Pogba comes as Jose would've signed 2 players that occupy his best position(s).

Na mate, I'm still in denial

On side note, I think Mata would excel in Serie A.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

This transfer, if it happens is bordering on insanity. He is really not required at United and god forbid, if he flops the discounted price we will sell him for will make United a laughing stock.

If he becomes an important player for United, no doubt within the next 3 years Madrid or Barca will buy him off us.

This is what I'm starting to think, I was happy a few days ago but the realisation is setting in now, this transfer can only really go 2 ways.

1. We sign him for £100+ million and he flops bigtime (most probable outcome makes us a laughing stock for spending so much) he's not the world beater player people are making out at all, he's either hot or cold.

2. We sign him for £100+ million he plays well for us and in 3 years he will force a move to Real Madrid leaving us hugely out of pocket.

Eitherway isn't very good and makes the club look amateur. Spending this ridiculously huge amount of money on him will be one of the worst decisions this club has made.

 

[Moonred]

Martial's output is closer to the £60 odd mil than Pogba's to the £100 mil we'll pay.
Opposition fans won't be swayed after 5 minutes. Not even 5 months of Gerrardesque performances will sway them.
For £100 mil, they would argue, you need to see Zidane levels.
And that is unfair on Pogba. I've only seen him play under pressure to perform in the CL and the Euros.
He didn't do too great in those.
Come to United for that amount and every journo will use that sum in their intro and every opposition fan will sing songs about it.
If he signs, and I think he will, be prepared for these eventualities.

No one cares about these eventualities. If he becomes successful for us while winning trophies, no one will care. Rivals are not supposed to like us. Press are always begging to see people fail.

 

[Salfordlad70]

I swore to advertise my bottom for a £1 a go on Sackville St if this comes off. I have mixed feelings about this recent good news. If Pogba signs, a huge hole in our midfield gets filled.....that's the good news

 

[ChaddyP]

Probably since other journalists come out with the info regarding transfers first but this time this guy has it here first. It looks like he has been briefed.

fair enough if everyone trust him. obviously this makes me happy and ready to go all muppety again after a flaccid week

 

[podurban2]

This is what I'm starting to think, I was happy a few days ago but the realisation is setting in now, this transfer can only really go 2 ways.

1. We sign him for £100+ million and he flops bigtime (most probable outcome makes us a laughing stock for spending so much) he's not the world beater player people are making out at all, he's either hot or cold.

2. We sign him for £100+ million he plays well for us and in 3 years he will force a move to Real Madrid leaving us hugely out of pocket.

Eitherway isn't very good and makes the club look amateur. Spending this ridiculously huge amount of money on him will be one of the worst decisions this club has made.

So we shouldn't buy top players because of fear that they will leave when they enter their prime? Most players want to go to Real over United, it can't be a criteria for signing one - or do you want a team of average players? You have no idea what will happen in three years, Zidane may flop, Spain may go into a recession, etc. Maybe we shouldn't have bought Martial because odds are he will go to Real/Barca if things stand as they are at this club.

 

[AltiUn]

Philip Brown is very, very reliable. Knows few football agents that work for Gestefute. Mendes is brokering the deal for Paul Pogba, it is known. So I'd say he will know, if this is done!


Wouldn't mind seeing Pogba and Fabregas in our midfield next season. We'd fecking walk it.

Fabregas? Odd choice, don't think there's any chance of us signing him.

 

[Enigma_87]

It's been circulating for a while now, that Mendes is on this deal.
Sorry mate, I meant I can't send you a link, as I'm using my PS4 and I don't know how to do it on it. Maybe someone else can post where it has been reported, it definitely has been reported, though.

Anyway run out of posts until 00:00 so can't post until tomorrow.

No worries, will try to look for it myself.

Na mate, I'm still in denial

On side note, I think Mata would excel in Serie A.

I think he'll be very good for you guys as well or more dominant Seria A side.

Even if you sell Pogba you'll have plenty of money to rebuilt the squad. It's a bit like the Zidane situation some 15 years ago. You sold him yet got Buffon, Thuram, Nedved and Salas in one Summer which arguably made the team stronger.

 

[Dazzmondo]

Mourinho plays 4-2-3-1, doesn't he? Pogba would be severly under-utilised in cdm position like he was with France NT.
If he plays at CAM, where would Rooney play? And Mata?
Don't see this happening tbh.

Well he wouldn't be playing as a cdm. He'd be playing alongside the more withdrawn and defensive of the cms. While they sit deep he would be given license to get forward and contribute to the attacking phase of play. Then when defending he would move deeper than the cam would. He'd really serve as a playmaking cm.

When played alongside Matuidi in the later games he was given that cdm role which seemed weird and limited his influence a lot as it forced him to remain too far back and didn't allow him to contribute much in the final third, instead concentrating on keeping possession (which he did a very poor job at). When he was playing in the midfield 3 with Kante, he played a bit more like his usual game as Kante played slightly deeper giving him a security blanket in case France were dispossessed. While he was still quite poor in these games too, he certainly looked more useful than in the latter games.

In this United side, he'd play as the more advanced cm while Carrick would sit deeper. If Carrick were injured, we could try Schneiderlin in a role similar to Kante I suppose though I wouldn't feel comfortable with this tbh. I'd rather see Fosu-Mensah develop into this role but Mourinho may not trust him there. We'll have to see. Either way we certainly wouldn't be playing Pogba as a cdm.

 

[RedorDead21]

So we shouldn't buy top players because of fear that they will leave when they enter their prime? Most players want to go to Real over United, it can't be a criteria for signing one - or do you want a team of average players? You have no idea what will happen in three years, Zidane may flop, Spain may go into a recession, etc. Maybe we shouldn't have bought Martial because odds are he will go to Real/Barca if things stand as they are at this club.

We do know what will happen... The income of the PL means continental teams are left behind. This is certain.

 

[RedorDead21]

Fabregas? Odd choice, don't think there's any chance of us signing him.

Fabregas at 23 was light years ahead of pogba for me. Was a first teamer from 17 and one of the best assist maker in the PL for 5 years....ahead of Ashley Young...

 

[Shakesy]

No one cares about these eventualities. If he becomes successful for us while winning trophies, no one will care. Rivals are not supposed to like us. Press are always begging to see people fail.

I don't care. You don't care.
Let's hope Pogba doesn't care.

That's what worries me. The pressure to perform might be too high for the youngster.

Pogba: "That was a great game! Yes, definitely! Did you see that pass? Gonna make headlines!"

Eventual article: "Ferrari drives like a Ferrari finally. But did you see that Ford? Whooaaaw!"

 

[ChaddyP]

something just occurred to me.If these ITKs think that the deal is Could Pogba be part of the home kit launch for Adidas. I'm sure they would love that. Would be a marketers wet dream. @Acquire Me would you maybe know anything in regards to this?

 

[Ramshock]

This saga is getting tedious and drawn out. We need to be careful to avoid putting all our eggs in basket, we've already missed out on several very good midfielders due to this pursuit of Pogba, Kante etc. are probably moving soon too, which would leave us with not many options.

I thought last two seasons were all LVGs doing? So Jose can surely get us top 4 with MS, BFS, Herrera and Carrick not to mention fan favourite Fellaini. Also Matuidi's future also to be decided.

 

[Renegade81]

I swore to advertise my bottom for a £1 a go on Sackville St if this comes off. I have mixed feelings about this recent good news. If Pogba signs, a huge hole in our midfield gets filled.....that's the good news

Eye for an eye and a hole for a hole and all that...

 

[Ramshock]

something just occurred to me.If these ITKs think that the deal is Could Pogba be part of the home kit launch for Adidas. I'm sure they would love that. Would be a marketers wet dream. @Acquire Me would you maybe know anything in regards to this?

Ahhh the old kit launch stunt. Yep thats probably it. Nvm that if he stayed at Juve or went to RM he would still be in Adidas gear.

 

[RedorDead21]

I thought last two seasons were all LVGs doing? So Jose can surely get us top 4 with MS, BFS, Herrera and Carrick not to mention fan favourite Fellaini. Also Matuidi's future also to be decided.

A world class manager should be able to get top 4 yes with out current squad. Fergie would win the league. Odd but Maureen can't unless on paper we all think he should.

 

[ChaddyP]

Ahhh the old kit launch stunt. Yep thats probably it. Nvm that if he stayed at Juve or went to RM he would still be in Adidas gear.

No no no. That's not what I meant. I'm sure if he is to move, our main sponsors would surely want him in before the massive kit launch. which would be a much higher more massive bit of marketing than him being In a Juve kit that's already launched.

 

[xplatformjedi]

All that money could stymie his development. Hell, if I won the lotto tonight I'd stop working.
Pogba's wealth has nothing to do with fulfilling his potential.
Here's the thing - money and talent are so closely linked in sport these days it's hard for a player to tell the difference. Just look at Ballon d'Or Bendtner.
Hopefully Pogba will sign and then silence the critics. But how successful do you need to be to silence the expectation that £100 mil brings?

For the last time POGBA isn't getting 100 million.

And there are a shite ton of sports stars here in the US that make a butt load of money that aren't stymied because they are paid a lot. That's simply ridiculous.

Once you get to a certain level of competition the me vs him factor plays a big

This is what I'm starting to think, I was happy a few days ago but the realisation is setting in now, this transfer can only really go 2 ways.

1. We sign him for £100+ million and he flops bigtime (most probable outcome makes us a laughing stock for spending so much) he's not the world beater player people are making out at all, he's either hot or cold.

2. We sign him for £100+ million he plays well for us and in 3 years he will force a move to Real Madrid leaving us hugely out of pocket.

Eitherway isn't very good and makes the club look amateur. Spending this ridiculously huge amount of money on him will be one of the worst decisions this club has made.

How about we sign him...win the Europa and Premier League this year, then follow that up with the CL title next year.

if that happens people won't give a shite if he runs off to Barca in 3 years...and the money spent now will be made up in merchandise sales, advertising, season ticket sales...

God people think small.

Instead of pocketing the money like the Glazers normally do, they actually spent it on a player who will be our best midfield player (even if he isnt viewed as worth the transfer fee by some)

 

[Bubz27]

I swore to advertise my bottom for a £1 a go on Sackville St if this comes off. I have mixed feelings about this recent good news. If Pogba signs, a huge hole in our midfield gets filled.....that's the good news

And once you've advertised your ass, maybe if you're lucky, your huge hole will get filled as well.

 

[Shakesy]

For the last time POGBA isn't getting 100 million.

For the last time?

So someone ACTUALLY believed POGBA is getting the £100 mill?

Perhaps you misunderstood their post as you did mine?

Anyway, here's my point. AGAIN.

Pogba is not a Ferrari. He's an Audi. But we are going to pay JUVE the price of a Ferrari. Pogba will perform well, perhaps even bettering other Audi's. But he MIGHT feel aggrieved because he can't match expectations of others and himself. This pressure MIGHT stymie his development. The end.

 

[Striker10]

For the last time?

So someone ACTUALLY believed POGBA is getting the £100 mill?

Perhaps you misunderstood their post as you did mine?

Anyway, here's my point. AGAIN.

Pogba is not a Ferrari. He's an Audi. But we are going to pay JUVE the price of a Ferrari. Pogba will perform well, perhaps even bettering other Audi's. But he MIGHT feel aggrieved because he can't match expectations of others and himself. This pressure MIGHT stymie his development. The end.

How much have you seen of Pogba? I don't think you've seen enough to know the players profile. The money won't be an issue and he's certainly no 'Audi'. He's not a player to let the fee bother him. If a player agrees the move, it's because they accept the fee. So how can you make a judgment about a players profile - when the club know more about it then anyone. The club wouldn't even consider making such an offer, if his mentality was weak and if some fans don't get what they expect, then maybe they don't know what type of player he can be for the team.

 

[GJNJ]

For the last time?

So someone ACTUALLY believed POGBA is getting the £100 mill?

Perhaps you misunderstood their post as you did mine?

Anyway, here's my point. AGAIN.

Pogba is not a Ferrari. He's an Audi. But we are going to pay JUVE the price of a Ferrari. Pogba will perform well, perhaps even bettering other Audi's. But he MIGHT feel aggrieved because he can't match expectations of others and himself. This pressure MIGHT stymie his development. The end.

He's already a Ferrari, he just needs tuning.

 

[Redfan94]

More than Falcao?

Yeah, I will say once or twice his slip has maybe helped him ping a decent ball over the top of the back four.

Still, he's constantly on his arse.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

So we shouldn't buy top players because of fear that they will leave when they enter their prime.

Ermmmm Yes, read the bold part and think about it why on earth should we pay 100 million on a player that is nowhere near the finished article, then he will immediately want to leave when he's in his prime for less than we paid.

 

[Rado_N]

For the last time?

So someone ACTUALLY believed POGBA is getting the £100 mill?

Perhaps you misunderstood their post as you did mine?

Anyway, here's my point. AGAIN.

Pogba is not a Ferrari. He's an Audi. But we are going to pay JUVE the price of a Ferrari. Pogba will perform well, perhaps even bettering other Audi's. But he MIGHT feel aggrieved because he can't match expectations of others and himself. This pressure MIGHT stymie his development. The end.

Audi R8 is a great car.

 

[Striker10]

Ermmmm Yes, read the bold part and think about it why on earth should we pay 100 million on a player that is nowhere near the finished article, then he will immediately want to leave when he's in his prime for less than we paid.

Why would United sell him for cheaper then we paid for him? Bear in mind - if we get back to the top, why would we sell him at all? That's the plan. Not to stand still but to get back to the top. United aren't thinking - oh we'll sell him ..

I can understand why Munich don't want to deal with us lol. When you see the attitudes of some people. The defeatist attitudes. The worst thing about Ronaldo leaving for Madrid, is some people lost their balls. Over time it's gotten worse. We stopped the trend with De Gea. We got Jose ahead of Madrid. IF we got Pogba, that would be a good statement but let's focus on what we do and stop worrying.....

If the club have learned anything since the Ronaldo sale - it should be, to be FAR smarter then they have been and it's about time we showed ambition. We've wasted the last 3 years.

 

[KingMinger22]

I think people banging on about the potential fee are stuck in 2013 or even 2010.

Transfer fees have exploded in line with increased revenues in the industry.

Yes, at £100m we are paying a premium but not a ludicrous one.

Fair play to Woody and the Glazers for investing in the team in a way that a club of our size should.

 

[United Pro]

Ermmmm Yes, read the bold part and think about it why on earth should we pay 100 million on a player that is nowhere near the finished article, then he will immediately want to leave when he's in his prime for less than we paid.

Why would he cost less than what we paid for him if he were to leave? If he performs well and with the inflation of transfer fees set to continue, I can't see us making a loss (as long as we ensure Pogba has atleast 2 years left on his contract).

 

[Adisa]

Mourinho plays 4-2-3-1, doesn't he? Pogba would be severly under-utilised in cdm position like he was with France NT.
If he plays at CAM, where would Rooney play? And Mata?
Don't see this happening tbh.

I think we will play 433.

 

[Steven7290]

Audi R8 is a great car.

Which was exactly his point. Audi R8 is a great car but you buy it for the money of a La Ferrari when it performs nowhere close.

 

[sunama]

Could Pogba be part of the home kit launch for Adidas.

Has a player ever been signed, for a launch stunt before?
Or is this one of those myths about player swaps (which almost never happens)?