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I fully in trust in this community to be inexhaustable in this matter. The power of muppetry shall always prevail
If it's true that they've rejected a bid of fecking £112m, then we should probably move on. What's the alternative though?
£112m rejected, haha what a farce.
If they rejected £100m+, then fair play to Juventus and let's move on.
Reminds me of that shop keep video with Ed buying chocolate.
If Juve don't sell, I only hope Jose tells Ed to forget it and we move on to another target right away.
No way they rejected a £112 million bid
Juve are taking the piss. They can feck off
Would you stay at a job an extra year, where you earn 70,000, just because you think your co-workers are excellent and you might get a nice bonus at the end of the year? Or do you move back to a place you are familiar with and earn over 300,000 a year?
Gazetta Dello Sport is a shite source.
I've also searched for the Gazetta article but there's nothing. Only an article on the Raiola quotes and another where they say they believe United will move fast to get Pogba. They mention the 123m Euro figure but say it is from SkySports UK
Dodgy source posted, people commenting on it as if its real.
Not fully believing it frankly. He said something similar to play down our links with zlatan
Di Marzio has said that we have an agreement with everyone except juve and he seems to be pretty sure about it. He was similarly sure about zlatan and mourinho joining too. Hard to believe he will be completely off the mark
Di Marzio has said that we have an agreement with everyone except juve and he seems to be pretty sure about it. He was similarly sure about zlatan and mourinho joining too. Hard to believe he will be completely off the mark
what proof do we have that Raiola actually said this? Are we to believe everyone who puts things in quotes and claims they are really from the originator ?
Such an erratic and irrational lot here.
Bloody hysterical mess. Lets all Calm down and stop acting like a bunch of newly pubescent teenagers at a Justin Beiber concert. It will be concluded either way at some point and the Sun will still come up the next day.
Feck me they rejected £112m (€132m) according to gazetto dello sport. Surely that will be our final offer for him ?
If Pogba isn't willing to force through a move, there isn't much he and Railo ca do if Juve rejects any amount for him. He would be a fool to renew his contract tough, unless ofcourse he gets a verbal agreement to join Real Madrid or Barcelona if they come knocking in the next seasons.
If this is true looks like it is over us. Juve really screwed us over big time.
Who are Gazetto Dello Sport? Sounds like some made up paper.
Why are people taking every single bit of speculation as gospel? GdS reporting it is hardly official confirmation. It's a garbage source.
If you want to support a team full of ~£30m players then may I suggest you head over to RAWK?
£30m gets you nothing these days, if you want to win the league, you need to spend a bit more than that
Really?
No word from Kicko Cornetto della Mitri.
Gazetta dello Sport a made up newspaper?
Was meant to be taken as a joke but sorry i'm not kept up on all the papers in the world 24/7.
Hey look someone that wants to help. Thanks.
Even a cursory search would have revealed it to be one of the biggest sports papers in Italy and Europe.
Seriously calling me erratic and irrational? For that? Hilarious. Jog on.
I tend to believe The Times when they make quotes. I can't see them plucking them out of a toilet.
That doesnt bode well does it? What levels of reliability are they on, the Sun or the Telegraph?
I guess we will have to disagree, Am pretty sure I remember seeing Naingolan control a game for Belgium and Roma. I believe Kanté can be deployed to the same effect and will be when he switches to a team that bosses the ball a bit more (because of his technique/capacity to give himself space to distribute in midfield).
But I've never seen Pogba control any game, nor do I see the type of movement that would allow him time and space to dominate the midfield. So I'm a bit baffled in your conviction that he is/will be better at controlling a game. Every time I see him play deep, I feel like he doesn't even want to be there orchestrating the play but rather running on to a pass into the final third to make things happen.
Curious to know what you thought of his recent tournament, I thought he was rather average to poor throughout with a few moments of creativity when allowed to play closer to the opposition area.
The review in L'Equipe (if you fancy yourself some french or handy with google translate), I believe is spot-on regarding his performance at the Euros where he was not deployed in his prefered position. (tip of the triangle or a free role between midfield and attack).
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Article/Les-notes-du-match-pogba-la-deception/705431
The phrase that summed it up for me, concerning UTD fans is the following :
"Le milieu de la Juventus vaut peut-être cent millions, comme le répète son agent, Mino Raiola, mais le club qui les alignera – Manchester United ? – n’aura, à ce jour, aucune garantie sportive de retour sur investissement." (I will deliberately not translate it, because I'm not looking to stir the pot, and believe that Mou will make good use of him should he return to UTD. But that statement hits home for me)
At Juve, Pirlo and Vidal did the controlling when they were at their best. And his attempt with the national team was rather disapointing. So latent talent aside, where have you seen him control a game?
This is very simplistic. Pogba earns much higher than this after tax and he wouldn't earn 200k a week after tax at United. Besides, he will get huge wages when he moves to another club, 1 year won't make a dramatic difference financially but could make quite a difference from a footballing perspective. Football is not only about money, it is also about glory, tropheys, etc. If he believes that he is ready for Real, a move to a United team playing in EL would be a tad disappointing. Common sense that.
Yeah. Ask Leicester.
Everyone should relax.
If we get Pogba, then great. If not, we'll sign another quality player. If we're willing to spend £100m on a player who walked out on us for nothing just four years ago, that says we've got the money to buy the best in the world.
With Mourinho in charge we can be certain United will be ruthless and can attract star players. This isn't like Moyes or LVG where we doubted their ability to lure big names to the club.
Whatever happens we'll have a quality new midfielder at Old Trafford in August.
If we get Pogba, then great. If not, we'll sign another quality player. If we're willing to spend £100m on a player who walked out on us for nothing just four years ago, that says we've got the money to buy the best in the world.
With Mourinho in charge we can be certain United will be ruthless and can attract star players. This isn't like Moyes or LVG where we doubted their ability to lure big names to the club.
Whatever happens we'll have a quality new midfielder at Old Trafford in August.
How can 50% more of what Juve is paying not be considered a lot?
Do you suggest we sign a load of £500k players instead and hope for a miracle? Face it Leicester was an anomaly and it will not be repeated, and should not be used as any measure of how to conduct transfer dealings for a team with title aspirations.
Stone's article and the quotes are similar to Zlatan before he arrived. Juve have to look to their own fans that they are attempting to keep him, not saying he will or won't come just would not read to much into what Raiola says. No way he isnt considering the huge payment he is set to earn from this.
No he is suggesting that clever scouting and transfers that form a team rather then a load of ego manics worth 50 million each. In the end a team wins a match not individuals.
I know what you mean but there are many gems out there for £30m. Look how much Miki and Bailly were.
Its all good mate!
Sometimes the simplest answer is the true answer. I personally don't believe it has much to do with money. I think Pogba always wanted to make it at United and was extremely disappointed when it didn't work out. He went to Juve to prove himself. He now has the opportunity come back and become a legend with us. I'm sure he got some enjoyment from us paying a world record fee for him. I honestly don't understand the Madrid connection. Has he ever stated that he prefers Madrid? If so, link? The only ones I have ever heard saying he prefers Madrid are the "Spanish insiders" like Ballague. I'm convinced he's coming and he will explain his decision during his first interview.
When the commentator says "Manchester United have been averaging 4 goals per game so fart this season"
Did we even average 4 shots per game last season? I miss those times...
There isn't anyone out there like Pogba, we need a creative genius and I just don't see anyone out there that fits the bill except Pogba.
Massive downer, still hope we get him but the brain says it is over but the hearth doesn't want to listen.
Personally I'am tired of these big transfer summer sagas. It is always the same, United should learn to only go after players they can actually land. They make us fans crazy an entire summer by going after sucha player, releasing rumours in the press and it never concludes with us landing the player and we are always end up disappointed.
I wouldn't have cared that we didn't sign Pogba at the start of the summer, not at all but it is all those rumours that keep persisting, not just from bullshit sources but from respected journalists and newspapers, so you know they are trying to get it done and you get hope, but they fecking fail every single time.
Opposition fans are right, we are looking desperate and it isn't pretty and clubs and agents are taking massive advantage of us for it.