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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....
Is this some kind of Rawkish style thinly veiled attempt to say Alli is better than Pogba?, because if it is, i just dont....
 
He was wrong for sure, but i suppose you could look at it that he had the belief in Pogba to be able to play that role (which he did very well to be fair).
He sure did, but a player so deep can only affect the game so much against a team defending so deep. Not quite comparable, but this is really why I think some of the stick that Carrick has gotten over the years is unfair.
 
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 league starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....
Why do you even come to this forum?
 
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 league starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....

Anyone who uses pure stats/talent to justify transfer prices is moronic. It's about that AND marketability. Alli looks like he's angry all the time (probably because he finished below Arsenal - like Spurs always seem to do) and has resting bitch face. He has no marketability and wasn't expected to be good. Naturally you guys found him at a good price. Pogba is a marketing machine and has been touted as a superstar for nearly a decade now. Naturally he's going to cost more. Like stop comparing Spurs players to United players, we will always pay more for players of equal value on the pitch (Pogba is better, but just to make my point) due to marketing reasons and because we're a stronger financial club going after players multiple clubs want. Stop spewing bullshit about his price like it matters.
 
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 league starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....

4 million pounds as an unknown youngster from MK Dons to Tottenham. If United wanted to buy Alli this summer Tottenham would probably ask for 50 million pounds lol.
 
he's a playmaker.

Pogba is in no way a playmaker. Anyone who watches him for his club will tell you that and today showed how poor he is in that role.

I agree he wasn't in his best position tonight but where do people expect him to play if we sign him?

Martial-Rooney- Mkhitaryan will be behind the striker. Pogba will be one of the two deeper midfielders, his physical presence and ability to drive with the ball something Mourinho will like but he really isn't the player for that role, he can't control a midfield. It doesn't suit his skill set. Unless Jose will play him a little further forward and drop Rooney completely because we will struggle if he plays deeper in midfield.
 
Anyone who uses pure stats/talent to justify transfer prices is moronic. It's about that AND marketability. Alli looks like he's angry all the time (probably because he finished below Arsenal - like Spurs always seem to do) and has resting bitch face. He has no marketability and wasn't expected to be good. Naturally you guys found him at a good price. Pogba is a marketing machine and has been touted as a superstar for nearly a decade now. Naturally he's going to cost more. Like stop comparing Spurs players to United players, we will always pay more for players of equal value on the pitch (Pogba is better, but just to make my point) due to marketing reasons and because we're a stronger financial club going after players multiple clubs want. Stop spewing bullshit about his price like it matters.

you just brought a sense-saber to a bullshit war. Poor Glastonbury.
 
that Liverpool team he played on was a great counter attacking team that scored over a 100 goals.
See, this is why people are finding your posts ridiculous and absurd. You come up with stuff like this.

While I'm busy throwing my guts and soul out there trying to explain to you why Suarez at Barca surrounded by the likes of Messi and Neymar is a combination for goals, you come up with arguments about how Liverpool was some great counter attacking team that year.

I mean, come on now mate.
 
This place is just :D Yes, Pogba has been average tonight, yes he didn't have the best Euro but who did? Muller, Kane, even Ronaldo and Bale were mostly anonymous although scored a few goals. Stop changing your opinion every 15 mins.

Where he was playing for France isn't his natural position, he needs to play as a CAM not a CM doing the bulk of the defending. I think he can defend but he's good cutting open teams.

Still worth the money IMO, offload some players, and buy a fifth player.
 
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....

No I'm using stats to show he was playing out of position tonight if you read the post in full. Also that people seem to think he does nothing in any games apart from a fancy flick or pass every now and then when clearly he does more.

Great stats that for Ali but how did he do for England at the euros. Also if you look at Pogba Juventus stats, he only cost them £800k so I guess that's a pretty good return don't you?

Which brings me back to how much do you think levy would want for Ali if United enquire about him?
 
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 league starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....
Rooney had 14 goals and assists in the league last year from 27 appearances..
Who had the better season Glaston?
 
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 league starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.

So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....

Alli doesn't play for us so it's irrelevant. It's not like Alli is going to be shunted out of the team if Pogba comes along because he isn't a United player. That's the only reason he should be in the debate.

Not all transfers are created equal. We've taken plenty of successful gambles on youth team players and young starlets too. It doesn't mean that when we've spent money on more accomplished players it's never been worth it.

The logical conclusion to that argument is that we shouldn't spend any money on players if we can produce the likes of Rashford for free. If only reality was as simple as the logic in your mind.
 
See, this is why people are finding your posts ridiculous and absurd. You come up with stuff like this.

While I'm busy throwing my guts and soul out there trying to explain to you why Suarez at Barca surrounded by the likes of Messi and Neymar is a combination for goals, you come up with arguments about how Liverpool was some great counter attacking team that year.

I mean, come on now mate.

what the feck? Liverpool created loads of chances. That's what you are saying about Barca.

Teams park the buss against Barca and they spend a still load of time poking and prodding. Liverpool that year had a relentless counter-attacking setup and blew teams away. like 5-0 at half-time away.

Chances created is what matters for strikers. Suarez had no shortage of chances.
 
what the feck? Liverpool created loads of chances. That's what you are saying about Barca.

Teams park the buss against Barca and they spend a still load of time poking and prodding. Liverpool that year had a relentless counter-attacking setup and blew teams away. like 5-0 at half-time away.

Chances created is what matters for strikers. Suarez had no shortage of chances.
I'm confident that you're WUMING now :lol:
 
Alli doesn't play for us so it's irrelevant. It's not like Alli is going to be shunted out of the team if Pogba comes along because he isn't a United player. That's the only reason he should be in the debate.

Not all transfers are created equal. We've taken plenty of successful gambles on youth team players and young starlets too. It doesn't mean that when we've spent money on more accomplished players it's never been worth it.

The logical conclusion to that argument is that we shouldn't spend any money on players if we can produce the likes of Rashford for free. If only reality was as simple as the logic in your mind.

And the fact the original post by me including his stats was in relation to him being played out of position by his national manager tonight and nothing to do about his price tag.
 
No I'm using stats to show he was playing out of position tonight if you read the post in full. Also that people seem to think he does nothing in any games apart from a fancy flick or pass every now and then when clearly he does more.

Great stats that for Ali but how did he do for England at the euros. Also if you look at Pogba Juventus stats, he only cost them £800k so I guess that's a pretty good return don't you?

Which brings me back to how much do you think levy would want for Ali if United enquire about him?

Yes, it's a great return for Juve, but that's not what we're talking about.

As for Alli, after Berbatov Levy changed club policy: no more star players to Prem rivals. They either stay, or go abroad if they want to leave. So any United enquiries would be pointless, but I don't want to get into that further in this thread.
 
Yes, it's a great return for Juve, but that's not what we're talking about.

As for Alli, after Berbatov Levy changed club policy: no more star players to Prem rivals. They either stay, or go abroad if they want to leave. So any United enquiries would be pointless, but I don't want to get into that further in this thread.

And I wasn't talking about his stats in relation to the reported price tag. So now we are both clear right.
 
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36 ignored messages and lots of talk about United's finances. Don't even need to ask who's at the centre of all this.

Sad isn't it, becoming tiresome.
 
Some of you will no doubt be pleased to know that I'm done commenting on Pogba in this thread. I've stated my views and stand by them, but can't endlessly reply to the responses to them.

If United sign Pogba then obviously time will tell us all who has been right and who wrong on the subject. So, goodnight one and all, over and out.
 
That's not what I said and you know it. Thus your post is a waste of space.

That's pretty much what you said. You implied that of our yearly income we would spend £150m+ in transfer fees plus wages.

If the transfer fee is the £100m which is going around, then you are saying he will receive £50m+ in wages in one year.

Your wum has been exposed and you have the cheek to say @Regulus Arcturus Black post is a waste of space.
 
I have. £150+m including wages is well over one-third of your total income (£395m) in your last published annual accounts (filed October 2015). Yes, your income has increased since then, but even so ...



Yes the payments and wages would be spread out into the future, but this comes on top of massive net spending on additions to your last title winning squad ... much of which also involves future payment commitments. Cumulatively this all adds up. Chickens come home to roost.
I have. £150+m including wages is well over one-third of your total income (£395m) in your last published annual accounts (filed October 2015). Yes, your income has increased since then, but even so ...

Yes the payments and wages would be spread out into the future, but this comes on top of massive net spending on additions to your last title winning squad ... much of which also involves future payment commitments. Cumulatively this all adds up. Chickens come home to roost.

http://www.forbes.com/teams/manchester-united/

Weird, its stated different here. Not trying to butthurt you but i trust Forbes more than a "GlastonSpur"
 
I want Pogba regardless of the cost, but he is just a potential top player.
Considering he is the same age as Lingard, why will one never be any better and has reached his potential (according to some), but the other will blossom into a ballon d"or winner?

I hope they both continue to improve.
 
I already have. Just scroll back a few posts.
Scrolled up and can't find your explanation for why Madrid would want to bump up the fee and give a CL rival like Juventus, one which knocked them out recently, more money