And Ibra just passes the ball around, doesn't he
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I am out too, until he signs (hopefully).Oh ffs, I am out of here. Pogba will be just fine. Also, its done, so support the lad
Tired of seeing people who don't understand football (Mourinho's tactical need of someone like Pogba)
Ronaldo scored 31 league goals in the 2007/2008 season. He'd be scoring over 60 goals now (or a few years back when he was arguably more at his peak) in the PL. Especially considering how much stronger English football was back then, with both champions league finalist that season coming from England.
I know that lots of commitments to large future fee-instalment and wages payments all add up. I know that signing lots of players on big wages, makes it very, very difficult to sell those players afterwards before their contract ends ... unless you sell for a big loss or subsidise their wages at another club.
And I know that lots of United fans, without examining the facts, have swallowed the myth that United are so loaded that it doesn't matter what you spend. But they will care when reality dawns.
Hal Robson Kanu looked much much better than Harry Kane, would I want him over Harry Kane. No.
Sissoko had the best game I have ever seen him have tonight including league games but he was the one with the license to bomb forward and not worry about defensive duties. Pogba who was pretty anonymous was obviously told to sit and play very much the way Deschamps did for France in the 90's. So yeah he looked pretty much like Schneiderlin did all last season for us...invisible. However play Pogba how he is played at Juve and you get goals, assist and dynamic play which are backed up by stats and not some well edited 10 minute YouTube clip.
Paul Pogba is not worth £100 million for the player he is right now. Undoubtedly IMO he has potential to be the best midfielder in the world or certainly in the top 3, which therefore makes United pursuing it understandable. However the argument is if you pay £100 million pounds for a player and whatever way you look at it is a hell of a lot of money for a midfielder, then you expect the finished article. Pogba isn't and for me he still needs a lot of coaching to reach that level. It's fine paying large amounts on players based on what their potential could be, but this isn't a large amount, it's a world record fee for a player that previously left the club for £0 despite coming through the academy . I get why some people would be against this, it's a very tough call.
It's very touching that people supporting other clubs are so worried about United's finances, but I think the money men and women at the club know whether a deal will be financially sustainable or not. And I really have no doubt that the club can afford this.
what? The top teams may have become weaker, but the lower ranked teams have gotten much, much stronger. Payet at West Ham? Shakiri at Stoke? Kante and Mahrez at Leiscter?
No, the EPL is not weaker. It's overall much, much stronger. The top teams have just fallen behind the Barca, Madrid, and Bayern.
Precisely so. So they've had some fun massively bumping up the price for United, since that costs them nothing.
Don't think there are many players with as many earned expectations on them at that age. Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney come to mind.
Edit: That his performances are questioned speaks IMO volumes about his level and consistency at Juventus. I don't think he has been playing badly or was average, simply he wasn't at his best.
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Thats good enough for me.Oh ffs, I am out of here. Pogba will be just fine. Also, its done, so support the lad
I look forward to watching him prove many of you wrong next season.
Pogba is a great attacking midfielder, superb one touch passing. Deschamps completely wasted Pogba playing him so deep. if you watch the semi final, again playing deep, the only real time Pogba had chance to get forward he created the chance for Griezmann. This is what he does, he creates openings with off the cuff moves and can keep play moving up front and keep the pressure on.
I trust Mourinho will be buying him as creative attacking force and will give him support behind. He's certainly still raw though but huge potential.
I trust Mourinho will be buying him as creative attacking force and will give him support behind. He's certainly still raw though but huge potential.
Doesn't bother me that he didn't perform up to expectation, still hope United get him. Lots of great players can have bad international tournaments, and vice versa.
I think you're confusing United with your micky mouse club. Best season in how long? and you still finish below Arsenal. Both of you will be out of the top four next season the way things are going and nobody will give a shite. Spurs are a drop in the water. I repeat, a nothing club.
Can you explain why they would do this?
Wish glaston would stop trying to put a downer on things, hey were signing Pogba over here and over the moon about it. Its exciting times, it might turn out to be one of the best transfer windows ever. Glaston the anti muppet.
That should pretty much confirm to people that Pogba won't be playing a deep role next to Schnweiderlin, ergo even if we sign him we still need a playmaker.
Pogba will be a huge success at United end of story. The debates about him having a poor tournament are obviously from people that haven't watched him before and don't know what his game is all about. Think of how many attacking box to box midst you can count. Now answer me how many would be able to fill in the deep lying playmaker role of a team that's just got to the final of a European championship. He's a special player with everything in his locker and he is looking like signing for the club most of us love. Everyone that supports United should be ecstatic that we're possibly adding him to our ranks!
if he's not the deep role, then isn't he the playmaker?
I believe Deschamps was wrong to play him just in front of the defenders. Ridiculous stuff.
How do you know the price quoted is not the price they have always quoted for Pogba from the beginning? Have not read one thing about a bidding war basically because neither club has actually made an offer.
I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with him playing in a front tree consisting of himself, Neymar and Messi with a midfield composed of the likes of Iniesta and Busquet. Should we just ignore all that?
Put that Barca team in the PL and they'll rain goals left and right, Suarez will likely still have tons more goals than the 31 he managed at Liverpool. You're asking questions with some quite obvious answers.
Was alongside them at one point towards the end! Was absurd.
how do you wage a bidding war if you bow out before a single bid?
Pogba didn't have a great game tonight, but that doesn't mean he isn't a great player!
No, he would be the attacking box-to-box like Fellaini/Ander Herrera.
why would pogba agree to that ?
36 ignored messages and lots of talk about United's finances. Don't even need to ask who's at the centre of all this.
that Liverpool team he played on was a great counter attacking team that scored over a 100 goals.
He was wrong for sure, but i suppose you could look at it that he had the belief in Pogba to be able to play that role (which he did very well to be fair).
Except you know, financially bolstering one of their main rivals to the CL next season and the team that knocked them out just one year ago.
Logic and economics are clearly not your forte.
Exactly. United have obviously informed the agent what they are wiling to pay. Real are unwilling to go that high. Which is completely different to bumping up the price as Glaston states.
he's a playmaker.
Big clubs are going to spend 100m+ on top players now on regular basis, especially in the PL. Sometimes, it'll be on overrated players. David Luiz was never worth 50m to any club other than PSG, but then 50m isn't worth much to them, either. Sterling was never worth that much, Deeney ain't worth that much.
It's what the clubs can pay, and what the player means to them. We need a future in midfield, are desperate for a big name, and Pogba seems like a young top talent who will suit the manager's requirements. So we pay whatever we can to pay him. Not my money.
As long as he's what we need, it's fine. They'll laugh at us today, and spend the same amounts of money trying to catch up with us later. Irrelevant.
I'm excited about him and Henrikh Mkh finding the killer passes for Martial, Zlatan and Rashford. We'll be tearing teams apart.
It's what the clubs can pay, and what the player means to them. We need a future in midfield, are desperate for a big name, and Pogba seems like a young top talent who will suit the manager's requirements. So we pay whatever we can to pay him. Not my money.
As long as he's what we need, it's fine. They'll laugh at us today, and spend the same amounts of money trying to catch up with us later. Irrelevant.
I'm excited about him and Henrikh Mkh finding the killer passes for Martial, Zlatan and Rashford. We'll be tearing teams apart.
Alli, aged 19, playing in a tougher league, for not the most dominant team, has scored or assisted 19 goals in 28 league starts (33 appearances) ... a much higher percentage of goals scored or created. He cost £4m ... one 25th of what you're proposing to pay for Pogba, and that's not including wages.
So if you're using club stats to justify Pogba at £100m ....
This place is just Yes, Pogba has been average tonight, yes he didn't have the best Euro but who did? Muller, Kane, even Ronaldo and Bale were mostly anonymous although scored a few goals. Stop changing your opinion every 15 mins.
Yes, Pogba has been average tonight, yes he didn't have the best Euro but who did? Muller, Kane, even Ronaldo and Bale were mostly anonymous although scored a few goals. Stop changing your opinion every 15 mins.Pogba doesn't control the tempo of his team's play or dominate midfield so I don't believe he is.
you win. Alli is better.
we won't need to. With Miki, it's going to be a counter-attacking setup. Quick. Schwiny/Carrick will tick the ball over.Pogba and crew of attackers will blaze teams with pace.