But it was reported from the beginning that Pogba was happy if he stayed and wouldn't push for the move.
We are just treading water here
We are just treading water here
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But what if he runs out of chairs?
I cant handle these ups and downs.
He'll find a way.
Believe in Raiola, he's also got instructions from Pogba surely. He won't be acting out of his clients wishes.
Crazy money yes, But proves what Ed said before that we can do things other clubs can only dream of doing.
120m eur was far too much anyway. Just hope we don't go for matuidi as a backup.
I keep changing my mind on the 'saga'. One minute I'm certain he doesn't want a return the next I'm positive he is keen to return to his favourite City. Sometimes I'm desperate for him to sign and other times I believe we are ok with a decent alternative (Matuidi).
All in all though with the current signings so far and the positivity Mourinho has brought to the club, I will not be too disappointed if we don't spend 100 million on him.
All in all though with the current signings so far and the positivity Mourinho has brought to the club, I will not be too disappointed if we don't spend 100 million on him.
Good good, yeah surely Pogba has told Raiola that he would be happy to come here.
Man Paul is not going to push, Raiola alone cannot make it happen, especially if Juventus asks Paul to say it himself. Unless we know for sure Juventus is ready to accept 120m or any amount in particular, I wouldn't understand how the outcome could be positive.
After Monday I think we should get a clearer picture of the outcome.
De Gea didn't push for a move either last summer, but it didn't mean he wouldn't move if/when United accepted Reals offer, so this seems soley down to the question if Real want 100mill in their pocket or not.
He is overrated partly because of his streaky brilliance and immense potential plus his overall persona. His age, potential and marketability all matter though. And certainly, if he fails, whether he was bought for 60 million or 100 will not matter much. Likewise if he succeeds. As I said before, incredibly difficult to justify 100 million plus for a player who isn't an out and out forward simply because it's much harder to measure other impact areas. But anyone disappointed with this if it happens has got be thinking too much..
Time to rewatch this
He's so good at keeping the ball, it's ridiculous! With all the money we have, this is a no brainer. No other player around like him. Money well spent if we get him. Been saying all along, "this is on".
Exactly, Di Marzio also reported we agreed terms with Pogba. So it's a bit contradictory to now say Pogba won't force a move.
But why accept terms and talk about terms if you're not going to move?
"He won't push for move" really just means 1.he won't submit a transfer request, which means he will pocket a % of the fee, whereas if he did, he would have to waive it and Juve would get it in full and 2.so if the transfer falls through, he can save face with Juve fans.
Its a done deal, Mourinho would never have been as confident to say that we would get our fourth target and get him well before the close of the window, if he wasn't sure that it's a near done deal.
Raiola, like a good agent, is taking a bullet for Pogba; this way, the agent cops the flak from Juve fans if Paul leaves.
Hey, relax,
You see, I know that we are negotiating with Juventus and we are doing just fine. Why would we or even Juventus bother if the Sky Italia reports were true.
The same way De Gea never tried to force a move to Madrid but still agreed personal terms with Real Madrid.
So he's contradicting what he just said about Juventus rejecting our offer. Right.
Exactly, Raiola is known to take a bullet to preserve his clients' reputation and be the bad guy instead.
Afterall, Pogba is one of his biggest cash cows and he would earn more from him in 4-5 years time.
"MUFC will make an offer and Juve will decide whether to accept", cutting-edge stuff from Di Marzio.
True, hope things will become clearer soon after the Euro's. Pogba might have to much respect for Juve to force a move and is letting them decide.
If Juventus reject the offer I hope we walk away immediately and look elsewhere. I have no time for a drawn out hopeless chase.
If it wasn't involving us, i'd actually quite like Pogba to turn down 3 times as much money and stay where he is. It would show that not every footballer is a money mad merc.
A bad moment to mistakenly include a capital letter when one wasn't needed...
'He wont push for a move' and suddenly people think it's over? it means feck all.It's Basically saying he wont put a transfer request in, which is the right thing to do anyway.
Juventus wont reject £100m regardless.
Juventus wont reject £100m regardless.
The same way De Gea never tried to force a move to Madrid but still agreed personal terms with Real Madrid.
Completely different situation, Madrid never required De Gea to force a move with a potential free-transfer. Thankfully the deal fell through, Dave signed a contract and Navas had an excellent season.
If we know that Juventus are going to turn down our offer why would we even bid? Surely we have some reassurance that this will be resolved with us on the winning side.
Pogba might want to move, but he won't hand in a transfer request to force the move. Maybe that's the gist now.
If Juventus turn down 120 mil euros though, I don't know if the club should continue pursuing the deal.
Edit: To me it still depends if Pogba wants to return. If he does, then I think a deal can be struck. I'm not sure if he wants to return though. Could see him staying at Juventus and then moving next season to Real Madrid.
If Juventus turn down 120 mil euros though, I don't know if the club should continue pursuing the deal.
Edit: To me it still depends if Pogba wants to return. If he does, then I think a deal can be struck. I'm not sure if he wants to return though. Could see him staying at Juventus and then moving next season to Real Madrid.
Yeah, just not in this case hehe.
That's exactly the point that is hard to understand. Hope they do not reject and make clear this is the amount from which it will ve accepted.
Not really, only the things at stake are different. Here 120m Euros are at stake for Juventus.
De Gea agreed personal terms with Real Madrid without ever asking for transfer officially. That did not mean he never wanted to join Madrid. Same way Pogba could agree the terms with us (without asking for a transfer) was the point here.
The same way De Gea never tried to force a move to Madrid but still agreed personal terms with Real Madrid.
Exactly! Let the agent do the dirty work, the Juve fans will think Raiola pushed the sale and not Pogba.
Harsh as it is to say, I cannot wrap my head around why he would come to Manchester, beyond money (which he can get elsewhere), over Madrid, Barcelona or even London. Might as well stay with Juventus if no one bar ourselves is offering the right price.
He's still very young and has plenty of time to be patient on the right move.
I'll be very impressed if we can convince him.
He's still very young and has plenty of time to be patient on the right move.
I'll be very impressed if we can convince him.
I need some positive news. The muppet is in critical condition.
This. We will do whatever it takes.
Its no bid to reject, as we are negotiating a deal. I have not read the Sky Italia news, but if they are saying that Juventus has reject us, its a bit premature tbh
