Bullshitter and sexist
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Bullshitter and sexist
Probably around the same price it would cost to buy Modric, Kroos, Rakitic today. So I would say around 60-70m. He's too expensive for my comfort but Pogba's fee includes a whole lot of non-football related things like global fan following(no I am not talking about shirt sales).
The worrying part is that even if we bought Pogba, we'll still need a deeper play maker who can control the pace of the game. There aren't many around but I think that should've been one of our priorities this summer.
He played at Crewe when Pogba left though. I doubt it matters.
Can I just say those who are crying about buying him back for £100m, let's say we didn't sell him and he is still one of the best young players in the world...
Madrid would be sniffing majorly and he'd want to go there much like Ronaldo.
So I am seeing it as an advantage that we have his better years than if we'd of kept him and lost out on his better years to Madrid.
Pog to Juve - bring him back 4 years later for £100m - have him for next 3-4 seasons minimum with his best years to come.
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Kept Pogba - Madrid see's his potential and he wants Madrid move - we sell to Madrid £90m - Madrid get his better years.
It would of gone down exactly like the Ronaldo deal did if we'd of kept him.
Thanks Fergie!
Madrid would be sniffing majorly and he'd want to go there much like Ronaldo.
So I am seeing it as an advantage that we have his better years than if we'd of kept him and lost out on his better years to Madrid.
Pog to Juve - bring him back 4 years later for £100m - have him for next 3-4 seasons minimum with his best years to come.
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Kept Pogba - Madrid see's his potential and he wants Madrid move - we sell to Madrid £90m - Madrid get his better years.
It would of gone down exactly like the Ronaldo deal did if we'd of kept him.
Thanks Fergie!
Not really, he's got a few right recently!
A good point. Plus I don't think van Gaal would have been too fond of Pogba; he takes too many risks and may very well have been benched or sold. All in all I agree that things could work out for the best, despite having to pay a world record fee to get him back.
@devilish We're going round in circles a bit here but my point is that he's at a different point in his career now. As you acknowledge. The things you care about in the early part of your career are different to the things you care about when you have the world at your feet and when you have (hypothetically) two of the biggest clubs in the world competing for your signature. So where he left United to get games, I dont believe he will be worrying about getting games now. Where he was interested in youth development policies, he may now be able to think about more frivolous things like climate. Zidane may move on, but so might Mourinho (3rd manager in 4 years - we are patently NOT a stable club since SAF left.)
Most of your answers to me say "if he cared about that then he wouldnt have..." But im saying he will (probably) have a completely different set of criteria now. He's made it FFS. On Sunday night he'll be a European Champion. He really can play wherever he wants. These things simply werent true when he couldnt get a game for us ahead of Park.
But like I said, I dont think Im right and youre wrong, I have no idea, perhaps you are right. I just dont think many players would choose us over Madrid if they had the choice and I see no reason to believe Pogba would be in the minority of players who would.
Most of your answers to me say "if he cared about that then he wouldnt have..." But im saying he will (probably) have a completely different set of criteria now. He's made it FFS. On Sunday night he'll be a European Champion. He really can play wherever he wants. These things simply werent true when he couldnt get a game for us ahead of Park.
But like I said, I dont think Im right and youre wrong, I have no idea, perhaps you are right. I just dont think many players would choose us over Madrid if they had the choice and I see no reason to believe Pogba would be in the minority of players who would.
He won't stay that long, the fact is that here he can virtually name his price where as the vibes coming out of Madrid are that they want him but not at any price/wage. £300k + image rights is a lot of money to turn down.
Does anyone know if Pogba has a release clause and if so how much?
There must be a point where it would be taken out of Juventus hands?
There must be a point where it would be taken out of Juventus hands?
I don't think this will be particularly protracted. Fully expecting Pogba to be a United player within the next 10 days
I agree. As said, I may be reading too much out of it + people do change.
Think people on here were saying that there is no concept of release clauses in Italy. I don't know.
Why is Pogba such a marketing phenomena? He doesn't strike me as being particularly charismatic.
I don't think he is a known BS agent, only because he rarely sticks his head out of the parapet in the first place. I find it puzzling that he is getting involved in this topic. Does anyone else know if he has spoken out about prospective transfers in the past?
Find it strange that he would choose now out of all the years to start becoming an ITK wummer...
There was an article I read that he was third in line for adidas in terms of marketing for European players after Ronaldo and Messi.
I can't stand Richard Keys but since Bein in his new job (see what I did there?) he has got a lot of things right weeks before our media has got hold of it.
He called Van Gaal's sacking before FA Cup final if I remember correctly.
He definitely has a few contacts and reliable sources now.
He called Van Gaal's sacking before FA Cup final if I remember correctly.
He definitely has a few contacts and reliable sources now.
Just let United get their hands on him and we'll hype him to Ronaldo/Beckham level
Woody is gonna fa.p himself dry!
Not sure if this has been posted on here:
http://www.newsusauk.com/news/18393...at-louis-van-gaal-s-favourite-restaurant.html
That was during last season.
http://www.newsusauk.com/news/18393...at-louis-van-gaal-s-favourite-restaurant.html
That was during last season.
He tweeted about Angel Di Maria to PSG when nobody believed it at all (including the mainstream media outlets).
Same with Mourinho to United (as done deal) when a lot of sources were reporting that LVG might stay at united. He also broke Pep to City news on twitter months before it happened.
The scrotum faced hairy tw@t has some legit sources via bein sports.
These things are hard for me to comprehend as well. But he's big, he's strong, when he starts running players literally bounce off of him, he can score great goals, has flashy hair. Everything you want from a Fifa midfielder.
He has the attributes to appeal to masses around the world. When a foreign is just starting to follow football, he is more like to become a Pogba fan than a Scholes fan.
Hence I am surprised that Madrid isn't more aggressive in his pursuit. Seems like a match made in heaven.
I don't think that's a strong point to hinge your argument on when comparing United to Madrid. Madrid's manager turnover is a world-wide joke and that includes managers getting sacked off the back of record breaking seasons and trophy hauls.
Pogba has a connection/History family, friends and an affinity he has not got anywhere else. The only reasons I can see him not coming here is if Madrid outbid us. Money talks...
There's no way Bale was worth £93m a few years ago, yet he was sold for that amount, and looks value for money now.
His brother still lives locally so it was probably just that.
Im not saying we are less stable than Madrid, Im saying he may not choose us over Madrid because we are MORE stable, as Devilish suggested, because since SAF left its no longer true. Its really a non issue between us.
Prices are maybe now double what they were when Bale was sold though.
Sell 3-4 players to offset the cost of a quality midfielder we can (hopefully) have for 8-10 years.
This is the Jose Mourinho effect. Zlatan, Mkhi, and Pogba would never be interested if anyone else was at the helm.
He definitely is chock full of charisma. Check out his social media, Instagram especially. The guy is a bit of a rock star by his own reckoning, and that seems to really play up to marketability. Then there's the hair styles and everything. He seems to really want the flashy Ronaldo-esque career. I have no idea how he will pan-out quality-wise, but if he keeps going the way he is, I think he will be the most valuable player in terms of revenues in football.
He was the one who broke the story about us bidding 100m in the first place, so I would say he's getting info from somebody.
I'm not sure about the finances of any particular club in the 90's and whether they were richer than United. Most probably weren't. But what i do know is that all the top clubs in Spain and Italy were offering far higher salaries than United were in the 90's. Even the likes of Chelsea and Middlesbrough had players on more than United. Wasn't Ravanelli on like £40-50k per week or something in 97.
United had a self imposed wage cap of i think £25k per week. Which saw us lose out on many top signings.
IF he is being truthful, then surely it will reach other journos fairly soon...
To put that in context, Gullit, Marco Van Basten and Albertini et al were earning 100k per week in 1990!
Last time Keys tweeted about us bidding for Pogba, Di Marzio reported the same thing a bit later.
he's lived in Manchester before so I don't think climate will be a shock or problem for him.
He has mates already at United
Zidane - great player but jury still out on whether he will be a great manager.
He can always stay 4-5 years at United and make another big money move to Spain
I am getting a growing feeling
also getting a feeling that we have a strong chance on this one, should we be able to convince Juve to sell. They'd be silly to turn down 100 milllions
If thats true then it shows you not only why we never signed any superstars in the 90's but also how well we did to keep the likes of Giggs, Keane, Beckham and Scholes during that period.
Not to mention winning the European Cup also.
In Lira?
Never realised Pogba has a Manc-French hybrid accent.
I remember the furore around Keane wanting £50k a week. Everyone thought football had gone mad.