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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?


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Have to agree that we were chasing players way beyond our reach and who where never gonna sign for us. It feels a bit different now with Mourinho in charge and I believe we will sign Pogba. The transfer needs wrapped up quickly though if it drags on into the summer then we could be left scrambling for a panic buy. Set Pogba a deadline of 2 weeks from Monday - give him a week off to relax and not think about football. Then the second week to decide and get everything done.

Plus I don't fancy refreshing this thread 200 times a day for the next 6 weeks.

Agreed, I'm getting RSI in my right arm.

Queue masturbation jokes.
 
When we signed Veron our yearly operating profit was £36m, with his transfer costing £28.5m (79%)

Our yearly profit for this year is forecast to be £170m, 79% of this would be £135m.
 
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He's clearly talented . But he is overrated. His play doesn't justify the price tag and i doubt you will ever recoup that money in terms of one the pitch performance.

If you get a decade out of him you probably will. If he leaves in 5 years we'll recoup most of that.
 
He's clearly talented . But he is overrated. His play doesn't justify the price tag and i doubt you will ever recoup that money in terms of one the pitch performance.

Depends on how you are looking at it. He's 23 years old. In around 4-5 years time he'll be in his prime. Even if he doesn't work out too well we can still probably sell him for a decent amount to PSG or other sugar daddy club.
 
Out of interest who would you prefer to spend the money on?

Paredes from Roma, Kovacic from Real, Pjanic from Roma (now gone), Gundogan from Dortmund (now gone), Samper (Barca), Jorginho (Napoli), Dahoud (Monchengladbach), Carvalho (Sporting) etc etc.
 
You're looking at it from the perspective of an accountant, not a fan of football. I can't understand this way of thinking. If you thought he was a bad player then fine, I could understand you not wanting him. But to acknowledge he has bags of talent but then really hope we don't sign him because he's £50m over your valuation is ridiculous.

That's a lot of money to be wasting on a player. Which has been our policy the last couple of years and we have seen where that has taken us.
 
Paredes from Roma, Kovacic from Real, Pjanic from Roma (now gone), Gundogan from Dortmund (now gone), Samper (Barca), Jorginho (Napoli), Dahoud (Monchengladbach), Carvalho (Sporting) etc etc.
Wow seriously? Some of those names are far inferior to Pogba and others are simply different positions all together. William Carvalho? Must be joking.
 
That's a lot of money to be wasting on a player. Which has been our policy the last couple of years and we have seen where that has taken us.

Let's pack it all in then.
 
Depends on how you are looking at it. He's 23 years old. In around 4-5 years time he'll be in his prime. Even if he doesn't work out too well we can still probably sell him for a decent amount to PSG or other sugar daddy club.

Im looking at from a value for money, influence, principle standpoint. Not to mention he will probably start angling for a Barca/Real move in the next few years.
 
Wow seriously? Some of those names are far inferior to Pogba and others are simply different positions all together. William Carvalho? Must be joking.

Pogba's play doesn't match his hype or price tag. I watch him quite often. Goes missing for long periods of games, plays in moments, sloppy, inconsistent but he is a highlight grabber. From a midfielder that's not what I like to see and doesn't fit the profile of the great midfielders i've watched who make the game revolve around them. He can definitely improve and Jose is probably the man to do it. But at that price?

I would want a combination of those players I listed who would cost around 40 million less and leave our whole midfield (after spending a lot of money on players who aren't up to the task) in much better shape. We will see how it goes nonetheless but i'm not a fan of the move.
 
Ah right, I didn't know you were on about the difference with ours. Had an idea that's what you were on about but you just went "10m a season so that equals 65m per season" ha!

@ChaddyP if I'm a Spurs fan you're a dipper, deal?
there was white text you numpty :lol:
 
Get him to a medical already! He can't possibly have anything more important to do?
 
Im looking at from a value for money, influence, principle standpoint. Not to mention he will probably start angling for a Barca/Real move in the next few years.
Value for money and principles don't win trophies. It's thank to that nonsense that we replaced Ronaldo with mediocre players and lost out on Hazard. And now some of you would be happy to see us buy 2-3 average players instead of buying one player who is regarded as one of the best players in the world by his peers.
 
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To be fair, usually there's a good line of people here with masturbation jokes cued up.
 
The post of mine that you've cited, namely "... you've spent the last three summers chasing players that are way beyond your reach, only to end up in last minute panic scrambles as the reality dawns" does NOT translate into "no player from a CL club will ever sign for United this summer", which is what you falsely claimed I've said.

They were beyond our reach because they were already playing for top clubs - in the case of Ramos and Muller in their home country. That doesn't mean that players of that class are beyond our reach.

Our recent failures in the market are more a result of Woodward's naivety in pursuing ill chosen targets than United's lack of attraction for world class players.
 
Fair enough to those who think we shouldn't go for him because he's too expensive, but why is there so much concern over not buying a player because he might end up moving to Spain after a few seasons? Do we only want to buy players that will never be good enough to attract the attention of other top clubs then?
 
Queue = a line or sequence of people or vehicles awaiting their turn to be attended to or to proceed
Cue = a thing said or done that serves as a signal to an actor or other performer to enter or to begin their speech or performance
It was intended that I thought there would be a number of jokes hence they would be queued rather than prompting jokes.

I appreciate if you have to explain a joke then it not funny, if you have to explain the grammar or context then it's really not funny.
 
If Real sign him for some stupid fee no one will bat an eyelid and he'll do well and they'll continue to challenge for the league and CL while we're trying to finish 4th with Felliani and a geriatric Carrick in the middle wondering why we can't turn it around.

We need to sign players like this.
 
I couldn't care less if the price tag is a thousand times inflated. Doesn't make a single bit of difference to me. Club accountants etc can deal with that.

He would walk into our current midfield. That's all that matters. I don't have a good feeling about this though.
 
"stop trying to compare transfer prices" if you are going to tell me to do something at lest give a reason why you think its not right, so I can put my point to you.

I was trying to use it as reference of how much money this is.
:lol: That is not criticizing you. And I think I gave a valid enough point to tell you not to compare them citing Andy Caroll as an example.
 
Every year, Arsenal fans say player X returning from injury "is like a new signing". Eboue, Wilshire, Fabregas, Ramsey, Eduardo, Walcott etc.
The term LANS (Like a new signing") for the players returning from injury has been coined by the great man Arsene Wenger himself. :)
 
Pogba's play doesn't match his hype or price tag. I watch him quite often. Goes missing for long periods of games, plays in moments, sloppy, inconsistent but he is a highlight grabber. From a midfielder that's not what I like to see and doesn't fit the profile of the great midfielders i've watched who make the game revolve around them. He can definitely improve and Jose is probably the man to do it. But at that price?

I would want a combination of those players I listed who would cost around 40 million less and leave our whole midfield (after spending a lot of money on players who aren't up to the task) in much better shape. We will see how it goes nonetheless but i'm not a fan of the move.
I don't really get the money argument to be honest. We should be signing the best player we can to improve us which I believe Mourinho has identified as Pogba and I agree since he has a lot of the attributes our midfield is missing.

Getting a combination of players isn't the alternative either, nothing stops us signing further midfield reinforcements but the fact of the matter is we can only play 11 players. We should therefore be trying to sign quality not quantity.
 
:lol::lol: I'm not having that for one minute!!

Not that it matters, like, but come on!
To be fair i have only been on this forum for a month or so and most of the posts in the transfer section have been about getting cocks and knocking one out so i don't think it's a stretch to think that was my thinking. :D
 
Pogba's play doesn't match his hype or price tag. I watch him quite often. Goes missing for long periods of games, plays in moments, sloppy, inconsistent but he is a highlight grabber. From a midfielder that's not what I like to see and doesn't fit the profile of the great midfielders i've watched who make the game revolve around them. He can definitely improve and Jose is probably the man to do it. But at that price?

I would want a combination of those players I listed who would cost around 40 million less and leave our whole midfield (after spending a lot of money on players who aren't up to the task) in much better shape. We will see how it goes nonetheless but i'm not a fan of the move.
For how long are we going to keep buying squad players, average players who cost less? We have enough of those already in midfield and in defense. Also the more players you buy the more time it takes them to settle down and gel. Here we are only getting one player.
 
If Real sign him for some stupid fee no one will bat an eyelid and he'll do well and they'll continue to challenge for the league and CL while we're trying to finish 4th with Felliani and a geriatric Carrick in the middle wondering why we can't turn it around.

We need to sign players like this.
Amazing isn't it. At the time Madrid bought Bale people on here were questioning the fee, wasn't worth it etc.

Now all of a sudden we are in the same situation with Pogba and some people just can't get there head around the money it takes. I wonder if some Madrid fans didn't want Ronaldo because it was such a huge cost? god no :lol:
 
Vitaly from Real Galacticos had it spot on in his FullTimeDevils video he did. He said as a Real fan he's learned you dont pay for players based on their quality. You're paying for the brand, not just what he does on the pitch. He's a superstar in the making, if he isnt already. There's so many factors in a signing like this. Not just whether he gets it done on the pitch.
 
Vitaly from Real Galacticos had it spot on in his FullTimeDevils video he did. He said as a Real fan he's learned you dont pay for players based on their quality. You're paying for the brand, not just what he does on the pitch. He's a superstar in the making, if he isnt already. There's so many factors in a signing like this. Not just whether he gets it done on the pitch.
This is exactly what so many here are trying to tell the naysayers for the past week but they dont seem to want to understand. They only see and listen to what they want.
 
Amazing isn't it. At the time Madrid bought Bale people on here were questioning the fee, wasn't worth it etc.

Now all of a sudden we are in the same situation with Pogba and some people just can't get there head around the money it takes. I wonder if some Madrid fans didn't want Ronaldo because it was such a huge cost? god no :lol:
Cristiano Ronaldo was a Ballon D'or winner, so it's not quite the same.
 
Signing Pogba and the like makes it easier to sign other players in the future. Getting it started is the hardest aspect in all of this.
The chance to play with great players is a massive selling point for transfer targets, signing Pogba is exciting enough but United being willing to spend money to build upon this excites me even more. It would be from next summer in that we would see the benifits.
 
Wow seriously? Some of those names are far inferior to Pogba and others are simply different positions all together. William Carvalho? Must be joking.
Out of all the names he listed you chose Carvalho to pick on. Anytime I see the boy he's class, not spectacular but still class in his position
 
Cristiano Ronaldo was a Ballon D'or winner, so it's not quite the same.
Pogba is potentially a winner too, he's just unlucky he's got 2 of the greatest players of the modern era in his way. I am not doubting 100m is a little over what he's "worth", but generally transfer fee's aren't what a player is worth, it's how much Juve are willing to lose him for.
 
Jesus I need to block all football related sources until his future is decided one way or another. I'm actually starting to hope, which, as everyone knows, is what kills you.
 
Pogba is potentially a winner too, he's just unlucky he's got 2 of the greatest players of the modern era in his way. I am not doubting 100m is a little over what he's "worth", but generally transfer fee's aren't what a player is worth, it's how much Juve are willing to lose him for.

You think Messi and Ronaldo are preventing Pogba from being world player of the year?
 
You think Messi and Ronaldo are preventing Pogba from being world player of the year?
He said a potential winner, as in he could win it in the future not now. And yes he'd have to beat out Messi and Ronaldo to do it.
 
I'd sign him just for the touch of fantasy in his game (that outside-of-the-boot shot against Germany, for example). Fantasy is something deeply associated with United, and something we've lacked recently.
 
Pogba is potentially a winner too, he's just unlucky he's got 2 of the greatest players of the modern era in his way. I am not doubting 100m is a little over what he's "worth", but generally transfer fee's aren't what a player is worth, it's how much Juve are willing to lose him for.


that's a big maybe - not if the players says feck off i'm leaving. player power.


I'd sign him just for the touch of fantasy in his game (that outside-of-the-boot shot against Germany, for example). Fantasy is something deeply associated with United, and something we've lacked recently.

quality and pace as well. 100m - i remember trev getting sold for a million and people flipped - sign of the times i guess.
 
I am yet to see him have a stand out game that I would think wow this guy is amazing. He is certainly not worth anywhere near 100m. For that amount of money I would be expecting to sign someone who was going to decide games and provide a major influence on games.

Results are what matters to me as a fan on the football pitch not whether someone has a marketable profile. I am not saying I wouldnt want him at OT he would be an instant upgrade on the midfielders we have. A more respectable price based on what I have seen would be half the quoted fees