genuine quistion, does ManUtd of now have the right personnel who can stay behind Pogba for him to shine?
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100m for Pogba? I know he is a good player player but he is not a 100m player. Can he really change a game like Bale or Ronaldo or Suarez or Neymar? No.
I would rather stick a 30m bid for Kante. We have fosu Mensah coming through the ranks, id prefer to watch him grow.
100m is just too much for a player that left us and for a player who is probably only 7 out of 10. Hes hardly set the Euros alight.
I would rather stick a 30m bid for Kante. We have fosu Mensah coming through the ranks, id prefer to watch him grow.
100m is just too much for a player that left us and for a player who is probably only 7 out of 10. Hes hardly set the Euros alight.
Hahaha this is a joke right?
Kante is nothing like Pogba, they're not similar.
The more time I spend on here the less I think people actually watch football and just like to talk about it.
The more time I spend on here the less I think people actually watch football and just like to talk about it.
It would depend on the state of his contract - for example let's say that he signs a 5 year deal with us this summer, then in three seasons when he enters prime galactico age then he can turn-down renewal talks with us and push for Real. Even if we play hard-ball for a season, we're not going to allow ourselves to lose him again on a free and would therefore need to take whatever Real offer. End result: Pogba gets out of Juve, gets huge wages for a few years while increasing his profile as a player, before eventually getting the move every player wants, and with a nice bonus for himself and his agent.
They are the doom mongers who said De Gea would be gone - 5 minutes after it being announced he'd sign a new contract. Oh he'll stay a year - buy out clauses etc. They are just so negative. Vampires.
Probably something like:
Je te verai en Manchester
Any native French speakers, feel free to correct me.
aka a DDG situation, just that LvG did not surrender.
So the way I see it, we've got 2 sets of fans here.
set 1: would love to see Pogba back, realise he's a special talent and don't care how much it costs.
set 2: Unhappy he left in the first place, can't believe we are willing to spend a WR sum on him and would rather get somebody else to save pride.
I really cannot understand why people are so negative about this? If this was City/Chelsea/Barca/Madrid signing Pogba people would complain we aren't involved, not willing to spend the money etc.
Yes it's annoying how he went in the first place, but he's 1 of the best attacking midfielders in the world.
Stop sulking and enjoy it! the front 5 of Pogba/Mkhitaryan/Rashford/Martial/Ibra will be an absolute joy.
set 1: would love to see Pogba back, realise he's a special talent and don't care how much it costs.
set 2: Unhappy he left in the first place, can't believe we are willing to spend a WR sum on him and would rather get somebody else to save pride.
I really cannot understand why people are so negative about this? If this was City/Chelsea/Barca/Madrid signing Pogba people would complain we aren't involved, not willing to spend the money etc.
Yes it's annoying how he went in the first place, but he's 1 of the best attacking midfielders in the world.
Stop sulking and enjoy it! the front 5 of Pogba/Mkhitaryan/Rashford/Martial/Ibra will be an absolute joy.
I assume that you're talking about the CM/DM position. Schneiderlin, TFM, Carra are here to stay. Not sure about Schweinsteiger. But it won't make sense if Mou signs another one there.
Besides, you would have to admit that our defence is not in a great shape as well. Smalling might have played his best ever season at United last year, Blind is just not a defender. And what we are missing is a leader at the back.
Pogba's probably a better player now because he left, we're potentially going to benefit from Juve's work with him.
This forum has a very bad case of Madrid phobia. feck all of them.
I guess its always a question of who a fan wants the manager to sign and who a fan expects the manager to sign.
A very fine line separates them...
A very fine line separates them...
Some people not wanting Pogba just so Fosu-Mensah can play are a bit ridiculous imo.
This club isn't Rashford FC nor Fosu-Mensah FC. Both of them will get their chances. Plenty of youngsters have shown promise their 1st season and fizzled out. Let's not pin all our hopes on them.
There's no reason to not want Pogba. He'll dominate the Premier League for years.
This club isn't Rashford FC nor Fosu-Mensah FC. Both of them will get their chances. Plenty of youngsters have shown promise their 1st season and fizzled out. Let's not pin all our hopes on them.
There's no reason to not want Pogba. He'll dominate the Premier League for years.
All the posters who dont want us to sign Pogba are like the posters who comment on new jerseys every year. First they absolute hate it, then as they see it more and more they are like "its starting to grow on me" and finally once it is released they absolutely love it.
Yes. He is better than Bale.
The other three aren't 100m players. While it is completely impossible to sign them, they would have cost more than that if their team decides to sell them. Neymar who is around the same age as Pogba would likely cost 200m if Barca somehow decides to sell him.
I think probably is an understatement
Are you saying Pogba is a better player than Bale? Respective to their value added in the positions they play ofcourse.
And why is everyone worried about signing a player "who left us in the first place". Stop with that bullshit attitude. It wasnt his fault. Its not like he played week in, week out and we offered a big contract for his age and he rejected it and went to Juventus. The blame lies with us and Fergie for dropping the clanger on him. And stop looking at it from a fans' perspective and look at from his point of view. He is a professional and he wants to earn as much as he can in his playing days. Juventus offered him both playing time and the money he was looking for and he took it. We couldnt do either.
Yep. To go even further I would say that Pogba is a top 3 midfielder, while Bale likely isn't a top 10 attacker.
There is the possibility that the "four" are realistic, achievable targets (i.e. the 4th could be Matuidi, for example) and that Pogba comes into the category of "if a special player becomes available we have to try and sign him" - the same as if, say, Neymar or Bale were offered to us for a price
We have a chance to sign the most dominant CM the premier league will have seen since prime Keane/Viera and people are quibbling over the price or suggesting options like Kante? Give me a break
100 million is a lot, but if you want to talk about blowing money, we spent 27 million on Felliani, 60 on Di Maria for a season, 17 on Rojo ... you want to talk about wasting 100m? Start with those deals
100 million is a lot, but if you want to talk about blowing money, we spent 27 million on Felliani, 60 on Di Maria for a season, 17 on Rojo ... you want to talk about wasting 100m? Start with those deals
Why does it automatically mean he performs well enough to attract interest ? He may completely flatter to deceive like a lot of the other big names we've signed over the last few seasons.
Ye, he'll perform like shit and Real will want to sign him, sure.
People are talking about Pogba as our "no.10" - in which case they could play the same position - I would say that Bale is better that Pogba in that position (at this point in time)
I'd disagree with that, but fair enough.
At a club like United, there shouldn't be much difference. If you take out the likes of Neymar, Messi, Muller, Ronaldo or Verrati because of PSG's money, there shouldn't be too many players in the world that we want but couldn't realistically get.
Obviously, we can't buy all the players we want for a variety of reasons, but there shouldn't be too many who are out of our reach if we were willing to spend the money. Especially if we get back into the CL next season.
Why are people banging on about Kante? Hasnt he technically had only one good season? That whole Leicester team was on a high. I would like to see him be more consistent for at least another season. Its the similar situation with Kane. We all wanted to give him at least one more season and he did perform but by that time we found Rashford. So lets do the same with Kante and who knows what might happen? Maybe Schneiderlin grows into that role under Mou or we unearth another in TFM playing CDM. Lets see how this season plays out.
Let me remind all the skeptics here that when we dithered on paying a little known talent called Renato Sanches $80m, Bayern swooped in and landed him for a similar deal except with a Martial like fee structure. Now Sanches has shown in the Euros just how incredible a talent he is and we're all smacking foreheads and pointing the finger at Woody.
That's for an unproven player at thr very highest level too. Here we have Pogba. Still very young. Still has his best days ahead of him. A world beating talent. A we don't want to spend $30 more than what was acceptabloe for Renato???
Understand this people. We are currently in a very tough battle for relevance. If we don't retain our glory days ina span of 2 years, the global super btand that is Manchester United will no longer be what it was. The market has gone insane. We have to deal with it.
That's for an unproven player at thr very highest level too. Here we have Pogba. Still very young. Still has his best days ahead of him. A world beating talent. A we don't want to spend $30 more than what was acceptabloe for Renato???
Understand this people. We are currently in a very tough battle for relevance. If we don't retain our glory days ina span of 2 years, the global super btand that is Manchester United will no longer be what it was. The market has gone insane. We have to deal with it.
If we do get him (which I'm still doubtful of) it's going to be an obscene amount of money, and I completely understand why many have reservations about spending that kind of sum. Part of me shares those reservations, however, another part of me is happy that we'd finally be swinging our proverbial penis around like the massive club we profess to be. How many times have we heard Woodward describe how we have the money and allure to bring in any player we wanted - well, it'll be nice to finally have some genuine substance to that.
And that's even before mentioning the more important on-the-pitch impact.
It's a lot of money, but there are a lot of positives.
And that's even before mentioning the more important on-the-pitch impact.
It's a lot of money, but there are a lot of positives.
Pogba's fee will be covered by sponsors and he will generate massive amounts of cash as the poster boy for United so don't really see the problem with the size of fee especially when your talking 30m for Deeney. Pog would be a great signing if Woodie can pull it off but I'm trying not to get sucked in like I did with fecking Vidal.
Adidas are already considering Pogba as the next big marketing tool after Cristiano and Messi. He is only 23. We only stand to gain from all of this.
Wasn't convinced this was going to happen until Di Marzio.
He could be right though, maybe Pogba is not in one of the 4 "must sign" on Jose's list as signing him could be a long shot. Maybe Jose's list of 4 players consisted of more realistic targets.What?
In no order: Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Ronaldo, Griezmann, Lewandovski and Muller. Each of them is better than Bale. Then there are the likes of Ibrahimovic, Aguero, De Bruyne and Benzema who are around the same level as Bale, and for that reason I said that he 'likely' isn't in top 10 depending on how people rate all these players.
There cannot ever be a case that would put him in top 5 though.
He is better than De Bruyne and Benz for sure.
Carrick, Bastian, Blind and Schniederlin
Speaking of Di Marzio, has he been super wrong with anything lately?
I dont think so. The thing is he doesnt post anything for posting sake or for rumor sake. He waits till the end, he gets as much info as he can and then tells everyone. That is why he is reliable.