Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

CM10 said:
I can't help but feel some will change their tune if there's a big striker shaped hole in our team next year and Haaland is attainable.
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Sure we could make an exception for Haaland, but you know Raiola will be plotting Haaland's next move already even before he signs on the dotted line.

I wouldn't bank on more than a year or two of Haaland's service if he comes. Depends on what clauses Raiola wants in the contract. If there is a low fee release clause, he's gone even before he starts.
 
Please let him sign for Pool

Just to see Souness's head literally blow up would be great

But seriously, Pogba's career is fecking tainted having that sh*t stain of a man as his agent, Pogba is a massive brand, massive player, he doesn't need Raiola, he could have bob from Salford Quays manage him and would still get great contracts and pretty much his selection of clubs that he wants, Haaland needs to du a Lukaku and cut that virus off asap before it's too late
 
CM10 said:
I can't help but feel some will change their tune if there's a big striker shaped hole in our team next year and Haaland is attainable.
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You make exceptions for exceptional players. Haaland looks like such a player.
I thought we made exceptions for PP too. Its not like people didn't know Raiola when we signed PP. It just turns out PP is not as exceptional as we thought he was.
 
Murder on Zidane's Floor said:
Imagine moving clubs and the only tangible benefit is that your agent gets paid £30m.

Clubs better wise up. Only takes a few to take a stand and when they stop returning Mino's calls and suddenly the players will drop him.
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I think Pogba might get some of that pot. I don't believe that the agent fees only go to the agent, especially when you're looking at the crazy money someone like Raiola demands.
 
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prateik said:
this is so obvious.. desperate attempt to get more money be threatening to go to a rival.. Cheslea would have made more sense..

No one is buying the Liverpool link.. imagine Pogba trying to "gegenpress"
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It would make even less sense than the Thiago signing.

Clearly an attempt to stir other suitors into action and try to force Utd's hand into offering a bigger deal.

Personally I could care less if Pogba leaves. He's a good player, but for all his talents you still have to figure out ways to shoe horn him into the team where he won't be a massive liability. He's not worth the hassle or the money or the Raiola circus that comes with him.
 
Withnail said:
I think Pogba might get some of that pot. I don't believe that the agent fees only go to the agent, especially when you're looking at the crazy money someone like Raiola demands.
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Agreed. Players must be getting in on that action, makes no sense why some high profile players keep Raiola around otherwise. They don't need him unless he was bringing in the dough.
 
Cannot see Pogba playing in a Klopp system. Not in a million years. His half arsed pressing would see him on the bench after 2 games.
 
spiriticon said:
Sure we could make an exception for Haaland, but you know Raiola will be plotting Haaland's next move already even before he signs on the dotted line.

I wouldn't bank on more than a year or two of Haaland's service if he comes. Depends on what clauses Raiola wants in the contract. If there is a low fee release clause, he's gone even before he starts.
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But that's my point. Raiola doesn't have such a hold over his clients that he dictates where and when they move. If he tried that without their consent they'd tell him to feck off and find someone else.

If he's plotting the next move already, that's because Haaland (or Pogba, or whoever) wants it too. He is just the guy facilitating it. I don't think that would be the case anyway, Haaland's previous move was different because of the stage he was at in his career. He needed a stepping stone club where he could develop, now he's a big fish.
 
Why would Raiola think that's a good negotiation tactic?

Confirms that Pogba is still considering to stay though.
 
Still find it funny that people blame Mino for all this, innocent Paul. So disrespectful to United. Yes the owners haven't delivered to build a team since he came, but there are ways of doing things. Pogba wonders why fans have never really warmed to him at Old Trafford. This crap will be going on in a few months even if signs an insane contract.
 
poleglass red said:
not too hard to work that one mate, use your brain ffs.
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Mate you're arguing that the fact that everyone says he's really good to have in the dressing room is actually evidence that he's a toxic presence in the dressing room. You're arguing like a conspiracy theorist and saying that evidence that he is good is actually evidence that he is bad. And then you're not even making an argument to support your point, you're just saying 'use your brain'.

You'd fail a critical thinking class. It's a bit rich that you'd tell others to use their brain, when you haven't even bothered to explain your own position.
 
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CM10 said:
But that's my point. Raiola doesn't have such a hold over his clients that he dictates where and when they move. If he tried that without their consent they'd tell him to feck off and find someone else.

If he's plotting the next move already, that's because Haaland (or Pogba, or whoever) wants it too. He is just the guy facilitating it. I don't think that would be the case anyway, Haaland's previous move was different because of the stage he was at in his career. He needed a stepping stone club where he could develop, now he's a big fish.
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The thing is Haaland has already in his mind that he wants to be a player that gets to play in both the La Liga and the PL - so him coming here and being loyal to us even after a 200 million transfer fee isn't very realistic.

It's why players go for Raiola, because the players are able to get what they want.

As I have said before- having Raiola as your agent says something about you as a player. Pogba, Zlatan, Haaland, Lingard, Lukaku, Balotelli etc - there is something mouldy about the personality that I dont like about most of his clients.
 
Does the thread title change mean the Liverpool rumour is coming from credible sources? The article I saw at first was from a crappy source that didn't warrant a new thread title. Anything changed?
 
CM10 said:
But that's my point. Raiola doesn't have such a hold over his clients that he dictates where and when they move. If he tried that without their consent they'd tell him to feck off and find someone else.

If he's plotting the next move already, that's because Haaland (or Pogba, or whoever) wants it too. He is just the guy facilitating it. I don't think that would be the case anyway, Haaland's previous move was different because of the stage he was at in his career. He needed a stepping stone club where he could develop, now he's a big fish.
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Maybe Raiola doesn't chain them on a leash and pull them out the door per se, but you can bet he's whispering all their options in their ear on a daily basis.

Personally, if I am a club buying a Raiola player, I would factor in a high probability that contract renewals will be a pain in the arse and also a high probability the player will leave for less than market price eventually. Great for the buying club, never the selling club.
 
So CAF just chooses to believe any single report and make it a thread title.

No wonder you all get so worked up about fake events.

There is no more credibility in that report than in me saying Pogba signed a "20 Year Contract"
 
Jev said:
Does the thread title change mean the Liverpool rumour is coming from credible sources? The article I saw at first was from a crappy source that didn't warrant a new thread title. Anything changed?
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Things like those are never credible.

Either Raiola leaked it to put pressure on United to pay more, or United leaked it, to sour Pogba's relationship with the fans, to limit the backlash if we sell him.
 
Jev said:
Does the thread title change mean the Liverpool rumour is coming from credible sources? The article I saw at first was from a crappy source that didn't warrant a new thread title. Anything changed?
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Of course it doesn't mate. The Irrational Pogba hate machine must roll on regardless of the fact it's all a load of shite.
 
Spielmacher said:
Things like those are never credible.

Either Raiola leaked it to put pressure on United to pay more, or United leaked it, to sour Pogba's relationship with the fans, to limit the backlash if we sell him.
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99% chance your wrong on both counts and a randomer just made it up for the laugh.

It's like the Pogba rejected contract story a week ago. It was by one Journo who was caught out lying last year. Yet everyone just shows to believe it and the figures included.
 
laughtersassassin said:
99% chance your wrong on both counts and a randomer just made it up for the laugh.

It's like the Pogba rejected contract story a week ago. It was by one Journo who was caught out lying last year. Yet everyone just shows to believe it and the figures included.
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Or for clicks. Either way it's not to be taken seriously.
 
Bastian said:
That's not exactly fair though. There can be numerous factors behind him wanting to move, such as playing in a position he finds most comfortable, wanting to experience more in his career, and if we're honest, standing more of a chance of winning a CL (the team they are building there seems to definitely be assembled for the short-term immediate ambition of winning the CL).
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It's been what, seven years and a billion spent? Secondly, he has been played in positions he likes, he just hasn't performed when we have played him in multiple different roles.
 
fecking circus. Hopefully PSG comes in with intent soon.

I also second the "never sign a Raiola client again" sentiments.
 
Spielmacher said:
Or for clicks. Either way it's not to be taken seriously.
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Exactly.

People always complain about the circus around Pogba but fail to realise the Circus is fake.

90% of it is made up shite to generate clicks and reactions. And places like this form buy into it wholeheartedly.

That is how the hate started.

Eventually growing into conspiracies so mental that people where sure he was faking an injury and would never play again.

It's actually insanity.
 
spiriticon said:
Maybe Raiola doesn't chain them on a leash and pull them out the door per se, but you can bet he's whispering all their options in their ear on a daily basis.

Personally, if I am a club buying a Raiola player, I would factor in a high probability that contract renewals will be a pain in the arse and also a high probability the player will leave for less than market price eventually. Great for the buying club, never the selling club.
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Exactly this

Hopefully the club stops doing business with Raiola moving forward. He comes with too much baggage (literally!)
 
Liverpool are planning ahead to not be in a place to offer Salah and Mane above market wages. There’s no way they can afford Pogba or offer him more than he’s being offered at United.
 
laughtersassassin said:
Exactly.

People always complain about the circus around Pogba but fail to realise the Circus is fake.

90% of it is made up shite to generate clicks and reactions. And places like this form buy into it wholeheartedly.

That is how the hate started.

Eventually growing into conspiracies so mental that people where sure he was faking an injury and would never play again.

It's actually insanity.
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mate, Raiola started the biggest fecking circus on the eve of a decisive CL game.

I agree a lot of the noise is fake, but still, Raiola and Pogba have shown again and again that they don't give a shite about the club and I'm so fecking tired of people defending it.
 
If he refuse to leave or sign contract extension this summer, I’ll just let him rot in reserve as punishment.
 
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