Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”

Of the 3 possibilities , 1 We sell him to PSG, 2 he stays and signs a new contract and 3 he leaves for free next summer I think the latter is more likely.

If that does happen I’m backing Ole to make the most of it and manage it in best way possible. He has dealt with the Pogba circus very well up to now and I think he will continue to do so.

Its fine to say just throw him in the reserves as some posters are calling for but there’s no way that happens. We are already going to need him badly in first few games of the season with Rashford out and Martial not going to be match fit.
Plus even if we bring in another midfielder and have a fully fit squad Pogba on his day is a match winner.

I think the best way to use him and control the circus as much as possible is to make it clear as the season progresses that he’s not a preferred starter. Bring him on if we need a goal with half hour to go, or start him against lower teams playing a low block.
If we can leave him out of team and on bench and give minutes to younger or fringe players then make it clear that’s the route we want to go. Pogba plays only when it’s 100% necessary.
He will want to play as much as possible to put himself in shop window and depending on how we are going with form and injuries there will be periods when he will get a decent run in the team.
But if we bring in another quality mid and continue to play with the double pivot and have a number of players who can play on the left. Then I think we can greatly reduce his minutes while still having a game changing sub to bring on late in games.

Allows Ole to control the narrative around the Pogba circus a bit- “ Paul’s a great player and very professional and will continue to give his all the season for us but we would rather give minutes to players that are 100% committed to the club “
I know this would make him the highest paid sub in the game and if we aren’t winning games without him he will have to start games but would be much better for the team if he is going to leave for free next summer we start to phase him out this season.
 
Looking more and more like he's fishing for a massive contract from us, and I'm not sure we'll give it to him.
Think he'll sign for similar conditions to De Gea, can also see the club offering something along those lines. Not sure what to do with Raiola, though.
 
As much as I'd say don't give in to his negotiation and raise his wage (absolutely does not deserve it one bit), he has all the power now. The club can either pay him an extra few million for the season, or lose out on a 40mil+ transfer and he leaves for free.

the emotional side of me wants to say take the L and don't give him shit, but the business side says it makes sense to get him to sign one way or another to sell
 
Problem is 40million gets you a bang average player a lot of the time.

Look at Fred. Not even close to good enough all things considered.

I don't think Fred would have gone for 50m (or whatever it was) if it had been another club buying him. That figure is on Woodward/Judge.
 
The Liverpool link screams of them trying to get us to offer him a new contract, rather than forcing PSG's hand. Which is interesting. He'd never go there, he actually likes United.
It's a laughably bad attempt to try and "Keep Pogba relevant" and drum up interest from the fat slug agent. He is just like a seller of cheap plates on a market stall. we can expect some more "crashes" as he will desperately try and create more noise and disruption over the coming weeks and months.

This is why the club should just go to PSG and arrange a cut price deal now behind his back. While we keep the idea of further contact negotiations open this sort of nonsense will only get louder and more disruptive.
 
How massive does he want his next contract ? he reportedly rejected 350k a week from us, isn't that massive enough !

Its laughable :lol:
 
What are this Liverpool links?

Bollocks surely?

Seems so its all about the money, him wanting a big pay rise.

His whole team at United summed up.
 
Facts we know:

1) Raiola is a 'shitbag' and he's his agent who fishes for the best deal possible (that's on the pitch and commercially)

2) Pogba has one year left and turns 29 next March

3) Pogba is one of the most marketable players in the world, and United's deal with Adidas strengthens their negotiation position because they'll want a slice of that cake above and beyond normal wages.

Solutions: I'm sure Pogba would happily move to Madrid, PSG or Barcelona but those clubs are either stacked with players in his position, or are not in a financial position to match the money United can, probably because they want to keep/sign his mate Mbappe.

Those clubs may be reluctant to offer him more than 4 years on his contract because his style of play suggests he might not be the kind of player who improves with age in that area of the pitch.

So his shitbag agent is going to do everything in his power to get 5 years (because you think this will be his last 'big' contract) and a wage-structure busting deal at United, and as he does with all of his clients, he will brief the media in regards to their 'availability' and interest from other clubs.
 
The Liverpool link screams of them trying to get us to offer him a new contract, rather than forcing PSG's hand. Which is interesting. He'd never go there, he actually likes United.
:lol: No he likes the money, thats why hes got the club over a barrel. If he liked the club he would sign a fair new contract.
 
I'll happily sell him to Liverpool and see how long it takes for Raiola to ruin their locker room atmosphere.
 
My chief aim here.

By that I can assume you were also judging Kante by his creativity... :nervous:
I don't judge any midfielder based on their creativity. I am surprised so many people do, especially for a team that has so many great players up front like France do. How many assists and goals did Veratti, Modric, Jorginho had? Those are proper midfielders. Also, if Chelsea don't score a goal, is Kante and Jorginho blamed for lack of creativity?
France lost 3 goals (Switzerland missed a penalty too), watching that game I never felt like they had control over midfield - and Pogba played with Kante. If that is the perfect partnership, I have doubts we would like that at United, as I imagine there are many teams better than Switzerland in EPL.
which speaks to how well he performed, still managing to be one of the most consistent overall. oh and yeah, he had covid and was injured for the start of the season, but you're sassy huh?
Fred, McTominay, Shaw, Wan Bissaka, Maguire were all much more consistent players throughout the season. I'd put Lindelof and Cavani above Pogba as well. The only players less consistent than Pogba are Bruno, Rashford, and possibly Greenwood. I don't include players who had been rarely used (Telles, Matic, Martial, James).
You don't get a prize for being most consistent since any random month as far as I know.
 
No way he'd go to Liverpool, they simply won't pay him and his circus that crazy money. They barely have any money for their transfers let alone being stupid enough to deal with that shitbag, pay insane figures and get a player that doesn't press.
 
Why isnt he back in training ? Varane came back almost a week ago.
 
No way he'd go to Liverpool, they simply won't pay him and his circus that crazy money. They barely have any money for their transfers let alone being stupid enough to deal with that shitbag, pay insane figures and get a player that doesn't press.
Where has this come from?
 
He struggles to justify with his current wage, let alone a huge pay rise IMO.

Let's hope we have learnt our lesson with contract renewals, otherwise our vast improvement in transfer activities will be undone by this.
 
Would be a terrible move for all parties involved. Pogba would become the most hated former United player of all time.
Yep there's no logic in that at all tbf. Some said it's just a pathetic effort from the fat fecker trying to drum up things and I'd agree.
 
Why isnt he back in training ? Varane came back almost a week ago.

He is due back Monday. Varane probably came back early cause he had a transfer to sort.

Pogba has cut his holiday short for atleast 2-3 of our pre seasons in his time here. No reason he should do it every year.
 
Same for Kante and all the German players, they've been back in full training since Saturday the 24th.

You can only compare versus United players most of whom aren't back.

If he is not back on Monday maybe we have a talking point but as things stand this is a non issue
 
Yep there's no logic in that at all tbf. Some said it's just a pathetic effort from the fat fecker trying to drum up things and I'd agree.

You all believe way too much shite that originated from shite newspapers.

It's half the reason the Pogba hate started.

He is a popular figure so making up false stores sells and you all have been taking the bait for years and getting yourselves worked up over it.
 
As much as I hate Raiola, and the whole circus surrounding Pogba I think we should try to keep him for a number of reasons (Even though it would feel like a weight has been lifted off our shoulders if he left)

1) If we lose him on a free which seems most likely we would have to pay through the nose to get anyone of that quality - granted he doesn't always do it but look at what £50m Fred has brought to the team - I can't see us getting anyone equal too or better without spending out much more money overall.

2) If we finally manage to get a decent midfield partner for him and change our playing style (As has been rumoured) I feel like we could unlock more of his good qualities that often came out in a French/Juve shirt with a suitable partner to make up for his negatives.

3) It will leave us on better terms with Raiola and show more ambition which I'm hoping will help our pursuit of Haaland next year.
 
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Pogba to Liverpool rumours screams of trying to force Utd to pay up.

Or more likely they scream of a paper writing nonsense?

Like seriously would United be afraid of losing him to Liverpool? Not a chance because they know it's impossible. He'd never join them. They'd never pay him that much either etc etc etc
 
I don't judge any midfielder based on their creativity. I am surprised so many people do, especially for a team that has so many great players up front like France do. How many assists and goals did Veratti, Modric, Jorginho had? Those are proper midfielders. Also, if Chelsea don't score a goal, is Kante and Jorginho blamed for lack of creativity?
France lost 3 goals (Switzerland missed a penalty too), watching that game I never felt like they had control over midfield - and Pogba played with Kante. If that is the perfect partnership, I have doubts we would like that at United, as I imagine there are many teams better than Switzerland in EPL.
Creativity and assists aren't the same thing. You know that right?

No they aren't. That's my point? :confused:
 
I back this message, even if it means missing out on Haaland. feck that man (Raiola).
Exactly. Don't forget that we were excited about Pogba too (and rightfully because he is world-class as is Haaland). No star player helps you if that means a disbalance and broken team spirit.
 
Exactly. Don't forget that we were excited about Pogba too (and rightfully because he is world-class as is Haaland). No star player helps you if that means a disbalance and broken team spirit.

This isn't a thing though is it? The media want to make Pogba into this trouble making, team destroying, evil figure, and yet theres' never been a shred of evidence that he is, apart from idiot Mourinho talking shite. No one ever seems to have a bad word to say about how he conducts himself off the pitch.

Any Utd fans who believe Pogba is a bad for the team spirit has been well and truly hoodwinked by the media.
 
Imagine moving clubs and the only tangible benefit is that your agent gets paid £30m.

Clubs better wise up. Only takes a few to take a stand and when they stop returning Mino's calls and suddenly the players will drop him.