Why face time Varane and then post it on social media?
Both look pretty happy.
He stays.
Both look pretty happy.
He stays.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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He didn't look like a £350k per week player to me, I didn't see every France match so perhaps I've missed something. They as a whole were a shambles.
Rooney thought he was the player of the tournament till France got knocked out, https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/pog...-star-lit-up-euros/1w5zkrs1stf6g1ktj50xxym3sb
Can you find anyone who agrees with your crap assessment? He was absolutely superb in the Euros man.
This is where I got it from for the record: https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...2020-messi-wins-mbappe-rises/?sh=420398c61cff
He was the best player by miles. We were talking about player of the tournament before France collapsed against Switzerland. I'm not his biggest fan, far from it, but wish the lad won that accolade.
Griezmann earns more than everyone bar the top two in that list, for example.
That Forbes article 
just randomly putting numbers. Pogba getting only 6m in endorsement should be indicator of how reliable it is
just randomly putting numbers. Pogba getting only 6m in endorsement should be indicator of how reliable it isI think it's abundantly clear you scarcely saw him at the Euros.
Let's pivot then. Who is going to come in and put in better performances, bearing in mind your criticism of him is weighted by his salary. How much would that player demand in wages, and how much would they cost to sign.
Undroppable yet hasn't scored in the league since January and scored less goals than Scott Mctomminay.
My definition of undroppable greatly differs from yours. His average CAF rating was 6 out of 10 over the season wasn't it? So it seems everyone else disagrees with you too.
Undroppable my backside. Haven't we won more games under Ole without him than we have with him?
He’ll stay now particularly with the Varane signing. Going to Real would just be quite odd right now.
How many did Xavi score in his peak seasons? Goals are a lacklustre metric for midfielders.
It's hilarious how easily people just point to France form to justify his credentials. He's a form player, there are other reasons he works well for France. The obvious one being complimentary players but another big factor is a tournament is what, 7-9 games long.
He can turn up for that long in a go. His issue has always been the patchy form beyond that.
He can turn up for that long in a go. His issue has always been the patchy form beyond that.
He's not linked with Real right now. It's PSG who seem to be on the table.
Still think that pass that led to Hummels' own goal was frankly ridiculous.
THREE MONTHS you stayed out of that thread. If Pogba did a rough job of tying his shoelaces you'd be all over him. Imagine what he has to be doing to get that kind of silence from you. You must've been miserable.
But he has had 2 long injury in last 2 season. Last season he had Covid and when he was fit, and was very good. I guess it's difficult to be great all season if you are injured for 2-3 months.
He was our best player the season before that.
His injury is one the biggest reason why I am bit wary of giving him long contract. But to say that he hasn't been good is just revisionism at best.
Exactly. The lengthy periods of form are quickly forgotten.
International tournaments are weird to measure a player performance as a whole. Pogba and Kante work there mainly because it is less intensity and teams don't play like how clubs do.
I really doubt Pogba + Kante in club competition will look as good. As you and many said, he plays good when he has the mood on and is given a bit of space.
Speaking of it, I don't mind giving him a new contract as long as we don't have to pay his fat agent 20 m and 400k base wage or whatever to him.
I would imagine Neymar, Cristiano, Messi, Griezmann, Coutinho, de Gea, would all earn more. Maybe Suarez, Mbappe, de Bruyne too. But he's likely in the top 10.
Bale? Hazard? Madrid don’t pay their players peanuts. Lewandowski? Alaba is on 400k a week.
Another big reason is the runs the attackers make. Griezzman, Mbappe, Giroud/Benzema all constantly make runs, which plays into one of Pogba's key strengths of playing super accurate long balls. Especially when asked to play as a deep midfielder, it means he can get rid of the ball quickly rather than try and dribble the midfielders like he does at United.
For us for a long time there's been very little movement, it's very static. I was watching some of Pogba's long balls and it's often for United Rashford making the run in behind, the rest of the team is just static. It's why against City he often looks better, because the attackers get space, and against west Ham he looks crap, because they defend with 2 banks of four.
The link-up with Mbappe alone should be a big reason why Pogba would want to go to PSG. In the match against Switzerland Pogba laid out 3-5 very good chances on a plate for Mbappe, who fluffed his lines but the link-up is there. Add in Neymar and another attacker and it could work out very well for them. I think 50m euros is seriously undervaluing what he could bring to that PSG team.
I mean it depends on what performances you judge him off? When he was at Juve? Barely anyone. The last 2 seasons with us? Lots.. Tielemans, Mount (Unsure if he could play slightly deeper but I don't see why not as it's where he started), Verrati, heck Neves does as decent job offensivly as a DM than Pogba has recently. That's just off my head without me going scouting online.
I can't imagine with the exception of Verrati that we'd have to break 200k per week for any of them.
£45-50m from Pogba would pay a good chunk of the transfer fee for most. All of them are the same age or younger.
350k over 4 years would be £72.8m
200k over 4 years would be £41.6m
So that's hypothetically a £30m wage saving which could be used if the transfer fee needs a top up. And we get rid of the circus.
Yeah, forgot those. Easy to forget Bale, but definitely him, don't know what Hazard is on, but likely more than Pogba. Would be surprised if Bayern are paying anyone more than Pogba is earning, but who knows. Alaba probably. At this rate, he's probably in the top 15. Wonder if Ramos is getting paid more also at PSG.
Could be Juve, but let's base it off the Pogba of last season, or the Pogba that was the only player outside of the top 2 to get in the team of the year.
Three of those 4 players would not be an improvement on Pogba, and the other one is perennially injured. None of them have the marketability he has either. Two of those 3 remaining players would cost at least £80m, the other is apparently available for £35m, though not a single reliable source has echoed this. If you're going to base this off value for money, then you're not making a very compelling argument.
did you actually watch any matches this season?
The ideal this summer is keep Pogba , sell Matic and Lingard and get a DM
Fab is suggesting it's a possibility which is good
Fab is suggesting it's a possibility which is good
Correction, he was good going forward but, as usual, lacking in defensive duties.
I think James is more likely to leave than Lingard unless we’re after Rice.
Would make us a far better balanced team.
I don't disagree that our attackers need to work a bit harder.
But, again, this is international competition. Less energy, less pressing, less intensity that gives a bit more time and space for players in general to pass into or run into. If given spaces and time, even James would look like a world beater.
Yes. December onwards only Luke Shaw was more consistent than Pogba. Cavani had some good heights though.
Did you watch any games?
Nah I'd have him tied for 4th with Cavani and Maguire. Bruno, Rashford and Shaw were more important for us last season and better. The latter 3 were all around the same level.
this could destabilise our season a little bit
I also think the De Gea/Henderson situation could do the same, as it will be a constant pressure from the media on each keeper with every mistake
I hate to be one of those "it'd never happen in my day" people but seriously, Fergie would 100% feck him off this summer and make sure everyone in the group is 100% focused on United, not their contract or how much their fat agent gets paid
I also think the De Gea/Henderson situation could do the same, as it will be a constant pressure from the media on each keeper with every mistake
I hate to be one of those "it'd never happen in my day" people but seriously, Fergie would 100% feck him off this summer and make sure everyone in the group is 100% focused on United, not their contract or how much their fat agent gets paid
would've been a much sicker burn if they just removed one word