charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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I’d imagine he wants parity with De Gea. Probably why we want to get rid of De Gea.
350k a week is more than De Gea
I’d imagine he wants parity with De Gea. Probably why we want to get rid of De Gea.
De Gea is on 375k isn’t he?350k a week is more than De Gea
De Gea is on 375k isn’t he?
You say that, but he's quite clearly doing a Rooney or running his contract down.It blows my mind people don’t prioritize winning over avoiding an imaginary circus in their mind created by the press about someone who is not a problem in the locker room.
Why can't we allow him running down his contract? If PSG don't pay up we should keep him. We're not desperate for the money and by all the reports he's not an issue but a fairly popular figure in the dressing room. People have talked about him causing issues in the dressing room for years but no sources have ever said that's the case.You say that, but he's quite clearly doing a Rooney or running his contract down.
The former, he's done nothing to deserve such a contract and the latter is clearly a move we can't allow.
Him staying has very little impact on winning, it could have massive ramifications for squad harmony though.
it's a bad look to lose him for nothing twice, I just can't see the club be fine with that. Apart from that we could certainly use the funds to further add to the team. The smart play is to sell him now.Why can't we allow him running down his contract? If PSG don't pay up we should keep him. We're not desperate for the money and by all the reports he's not an issue but a fairly popular figure in the dressing room. People have talked about him causing issues in the dressing room for years but no sources have ever said that's the case.
Considering there's no clear cut replacement available for the fee we'd be getting, this is the way to go for me.I’m assuming he will not sign. But I think I’d still take another year of him along with our new signings. If he leaves for free exit summer, so be it.
350k puts him at just under De Gea as our second highest earner. How much does he want, honestly?
400? 500? 600? Parity with Messi?
Ideally that would be great - but I just don't even that is worth it. All season we'll have to listen to the speculation about where he goes next and when we get to the business end of the season he's going to be careful in case he gets an injury before the end of the season. I say cash in now. If we can do that, bring in a Camavinga, Saul, Neves or Bissouma, I'd be happy with that.I’m assuming he will not sign. But I think I’d still take another year of him along with our new signings. If he leaves for free exit summer, so be it.
Just think the optics for the club of losing him twice on a free, especially after bringing him back for a club record fee, it's just not going to happen.Why can't we allow him running down his contract? If PSG don't pay up we should keep him. We're not desperate for the money and by all the reports he's not an issue but a fairly popular figure in the dressing room. People have talked about him causing issues in the dressing room for years but no sources have ever said that's the case.
Why can't we allow him running down his contract? If PSG don't pay up we should keep him. We're not desperate for the money and by all the reports he's not an issue but a fairly popular figure in the dressing room. People have talked about him causing issues in the dressing room for years but no sources have ever said that's the case.
£50m is a different story. Let's see how much PSG are willing to pay but I hope the club set a price, whatever that may be, and stick to it.Sell a player for £50m now, otherwise lose him on a free next season? People act like £50m is nothing. The club didn’t even make profits over £50m before COVID. It’s a lot of money for a player who doesn’t want to be here. Best to sell whilst we can get some money so it can be invested on a player who wants to play for United.
Given his brand I'd say Riaola is probably pushing for parity with Messi and Ronaldo, despite Pogba not being fit to lace either of their boots he'll of convinced him that's his worth
Optics is a key word in this disagreement. I think winning more gives the team better optics than avoiding some sort of imagined dishonor from letting him run down his contract like many others have recently.Just think the optics for the club of losing him twice on a free, especially after bringing him back for a club record fee, it's just not going to happen.
I'm certainly not implying no one likes him or he's a toxic personality, but I was implying if he renews and gets more than 350 a week, I don't see how that doesn't cause issues.
Given his brand I'd say Riaola is probably pushing for parity with Messi and Ronaldo, despite Pogba not being fit to lace either of their boots he'll of convinced him that's his worth
honest question, what is it people have seen of Pogba in the last 5 years that make them think that keeping him will be such a key factor in winning? I struggle to think of another player where expectations and reality are so far apart. He's never demonstrated that he can consistently be the player for United that people want him so desperately to be. We really wouldn't have this discussion if Pogba was actually as good for United as we all hoped when we signed him in 2016. We've tried to make this work for five years, and it just hasn't worked. It happens.Optics is a key word in this disagreement. I think winning more gives the team better optics than avoiding some sort of imagined dishonor from letting him run down his contract like many others have recently.
think we'd be better off refraining from posting baseless incendiary stuff like this to be honest
If that £40M or £50M was for sure going to get reinvested immediately in a manner to improve the squad instead of disappearing into the coffers then I’d be on board.honest question, what is it people have seen of Pogba in the last 5 years that make them think that keeping him will be such a key factor in winning? I struggle to think of another player where expectations and reality are so far apart. He's never demonstrated that he can consistently be the player for United that people want him so desperately to be. We really wouldn't have this discussion if Pogba was actually as good for United as we all hoped when we signed him in 2016. We've tried to make this work for five years, and it just hasn't worked. It happens.
I'd rather take the ~40m and move on.
Just because he's not been as good as most of us hoped, it's still difficult to replace someone of his quality. He will no doubt remain an important player for us if he stays for a final year.honest question, what is it people have seen of Pogba in the last 5 years that make them think that keeping him will be such a key factor in winning? I struggle to think of another player where expectations and reality are so far apart. He's never demonstrated that he can consistently be the player for United that people want him so desperately to be. We really wouldn't have this discussion if Pogba was actually as good for United as we all hoped when we signed him in 2016. We've tried to make this work for five years, and it just hasn't worked. It happens.
I'd rather take the ~40m and move on.
but that's exactly why I want us to sell Pogba. We need to sell in order to sign more players this summer, and selling Pogba (and Lingard etc) will help fund another midfielder. Now maybe that midfielder is not as good individually as Pogba, but might fit us better. We don't play McFred because they are so awesome, but because they are the best options for the double pivot (playing Pogba is simply not working there). So selling Pogba and buying a good DM give us a better balanced squad.If that £40M or £50M was for sure going to get reinvested immediately in a manner to improve the squad instead of disappearing into the coffers then I’d be on board.
I‘m not saying he’s going to make or break this season for United. I am just wary of the quality of our midfield and the dearth of ideal options to improve it.