If he's gonna go, PSG are probably the only place that I could come to terms with very quickly.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Not sure who United would be selling if they did sell Pogba, but it's definitely not the version that plays for France.
£50m goes a long way right now - and if he's set on running his contract down, I can't see him giving £50m worth of effort in the last season.
£50m goes a long way right now - and if he's set on running his contract down, I can't see him giving £50m worth of effort in the last season.
Why, cos they’re a plastic club?
Individually a brilliant player, systematically he doesn't fit and never has bar the season with Ibra.
Deploying him as a DM and LW is just hindering his ability on the ball and makes him look inconsistent.
Never built the team around him when we signed him, the circus that comes with him isn't worth the hassle. Best for both parties if he left.
Deploying him as a DM and LW is just hindering his ability on the ball and makes him look inconsistent.
Never built the team around him when we signed him, the circus that comes with him isn't worth the hassle. Best for both parties if he left.
Pogba is a fantastic player although he does take defensive risks too often. The real problem is the media hoopla. The comments before the PSG and City games are unacceptable and is good enough reason to get rid. I hope PSG bid and he leaves.
He would if it meant keeping his place in the French team. Deschamps may rate him but he isn’t going to play him if he’s not giving 100% at club level. No one can turn in on and off
If Pogba leaves, the talent level of the team goes now...pretty obvious.
However, the way the team functions doesn't change. It'll be much more clear and function better as a group. Similar to how when RVN left, United became a better attacking and functioning group not reliant on one player to score the majority of the goals.
You're going to always hear the same old shite that Pogba couldn't play in the midfield two or wasn't producing like he can for France than United. That's just lazy commentary.
It's not that Pogba couldn't play in the a midfield two in the Premier League, it's just that the team wasn't as good because he's a defensive liability in the middle of the park in the most competitive league in the world. Hence the bad games and world class games were equal in quantity, with the other games good/solid. Him showcasing his talents for France for 2 or 3 games, when there's only 6 games or so is such a small sample size that it becomes the standard for him...when that's just not how he performances week in and week out.
The club are doing the right thing by offering him a very fair contract extension. United can allocate that extension money throughout the squad to the likes of a Shawberto, Maguire, Bruno, etc.
However, the way the team functions doesn't change. It'll be much more clear and function better as a group. Similar to how when RVN left, United became a better attacking and functioning group not reliant on one player to score the majority of the goals.
You're going to always hear the same old shite that Pogba couldn't play in the midfield two or wasn't producing like he can for France than United. That's just lazy commentary.
It's not that Pogba couldn't play in the a midfield two in the Premier League, it's just that the team wasn't as good because he's a defensive liability in the middle of the park in the most competitive league in the world. Hence the bad games and world class games were equal in quantity, with the other games good/solid. Him showcasing his talents for France for 2 or 3 games, when there's only 6 games or so is such a small sample size that it becomes the standard for him...when that's just not how he performances week in and week out.
The club are doing the right thing by offering him a very fair contract extension. United can allocate that extension money throughout the squad to the likes of a Shawberto, Maguire, Bruno, etc.
Sick of hearing of he’s staying or going, yes he’s a good player but hasn’t consistently shown it for us and he can be replaced
We have had legends like Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo all leave
We have had leaders like Keane, Bruce, Robson all leave
We will survive and be better for it.
We have had legends like Cantona, Beckham, Ronaldo all leave
We have had leaders like Keane, Bruce, Robson all leave
We will survive and be better for it.
Disappointing but expected, we didn't get the best out of him through poor management at the end of the day.
He'll probably play in a three alongside Veratti and Marquinos and look a world beater. Some players just need the system built around them.
They need to sell though. I've always liked Paredes although he's never really hit the heights I expected. Would suit us though.
He'll probably play in a three alongside Veratti and Marquinos and look a world beater. Some players just need the system built around them.
They need to sell though. I've always liked Paredes although he's never really hit the heights I expected. Would suit us though.
Tielemans would be my choice. Neat and tidy player who recycles the ball very well. Even when Pogba was playing, the midfield lacked composure, rushing everything and making poor choices with the ball. I reckon he would be a great signing, plus we would save on wages also.
He is pretty much the same player for France and United. The roles are slightly different but his strength and weaknesses are the same and as visible.
Even George Galloway is talking about Pogba.
If 350k a week isnt enough for him then I'm not too sorry to see him go.
If 350k a week isnt enough for him then I'm not too sorry to see him go.
Do the French supporters also feel that he could or should be replaced and a midfield be built differently
Is he a Utd fan? fecking hell
For years people did but the addition of talent made it obvious that focusing on Pogba was silly.
Kimmich's best attribute is him being all round midfielder that he can do both attack and defense equally good with incredible work rate and stamina, he's pretty much Goretzka but better in taking corner, crossing and passing than Goretzka but Goretzka is better in scoring goals and physically than him but both are all rounder midfielder with incredible stamina and work rate, more like hybrid midfield. Kimmich doesn't win lot of tackles like Kante or Ndidi and he is not a sitter who relies on his positioning like Matic either. In fact, his positioning is not his best attribute because he doesn't sit. Kimmich is not a DM.
My point is the way how Bayern 19/20 and 20/21 operates don't require a DM but their midfield interchange position which have similarity with how our midfield operates. You can't even apply your own assumption about Kimmich being a DM to Thiago when he played next to Goretzka.
He did though. Mctomminay scored 8 in all comps. Pogba scored 6.
KDB is a better player than Pogba, I'm one of Paul's supporters but I wouldn't say any different.
Trouble is those players are very few and far between. KDB is perhaps the best midfielder in Europe.
IMO Pogba is very good midfielder, unique in some ways and a player that can win you matches (as we seen.) I believe whoever we sign will be less talented, the argument is that we can find a player that 'fit's us better' but to me that just means we will try to sign a DM which is exactly what we need to do anyway, with or without Paul. We shouldn't get rid of one of our very best players to do so.
Oh thank Lord. Make it happen.
Not sure where you’re coming from
Meow
On talent, probably not. But I don’t think it’s difficult to name 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team than him.
Name them. Basically name 5 to replace him.
McTominay scored 5 goals all comps. Pogba 7.
I mean did he score in Europe last year?
*Mctominay had 7
Just read the previous posts then...
So glad this is all coming to a head either way.
Pogba got 6.
That’s not what you said, you said you can’t name 5 midfielders in the league better than him which I said may well be true in terms of talent.
In terms of 5 midfielders in the league that would be better for our team; Kante, De Bruyne, Ndidi, Fabinho, Gundogan.
One game. You could make a case for Tom Cleverley in his games against Arsenal just as easily that way. The statistics show he made a lot less passes than others. His passing statistics were very like Scott McTominays except of course he was playing at a much lower level. We got taken to the cleaners over van de Beek.
If he really turned that down, we need to sell him and recoup something.
If he wants to leave when we're likely about to challenge, then let him leave.
We need to get 2 midfielders in.
If he wants to leave when we're likely about to challenge, then let him leave.
We need to get 2 midfielders in.
Good. That we're still throwing around wages like that for a player who cant consistently get in the team shows we're still run by clowns.
I don't think anyone should be believing that tripe, its yet another ploy by his agent to try to get more money, PSG now will think they have to offer more and it'll go back to UTD to offer more.
What, from any team? Easy. Pick any of a few names from City, Liverpool and Chelsea and plenty from other sides as well. Hes nowhere near one of the top midfielders in the league. McTominay starts ahead of him on a regular basis.
Pogba goes for 50m and Lingard goes for 30m, we get Rice (65m) and Camavinga (35m). That's what we should do, IMO.
He scored against Leipzig
Well there you go. I only changed it because you said you couldn’t answer it. Using that famous talent word.
Kante isn’t better than Pogba and we seen that in the Euros. Only De Bruyne.
Bruno?
Okay. You know your stuff.
The less said the better.
Come on now. No way you can say Pogba is better than Kante and was better than him in the euros.
The 5 named would be better for United. As would Fernandinho, Grealish and Tielemans.