State of our fan base hating on a legend like Gary Neville and trying to say his rant played a part in Pogba being abused . It is only on here that I have seen Gaz talked about this way . I think a few need to get away from their keyboards for a while and enter the real world .
Paul Pogba racially abused on social media
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Preening like a peacock is a phrase, google is your friend.
Not being pedantic but you said 'preening it.'
Preening himself would have been the appropriate pronoun
I think I originally said preening like a peacock then whoever came back at me for daring to criticise Pogba just referred to it as preening hence forth.
You’re clueless, it’s not that you dare to criticise Pogba, it’s the fact you blamed him for getting abuse, something you can’t even make your mind up about as now you’ve shifted to saying he should’ve been the bigger man and walked away once the abuse started. The lengths you lot go to criticise the guy then get upset when you get called out on your bullshit is incredible.
I think you sound upset pal. I won’t invest in Pogba because he doesn’t want to be here and probably won’t be this time next year. I’ve seen this one before somewhere!
Whether he wants to be here or not, it is clear to me and good amount of Supporters that this kind of rejection is being taken personally.
Letting this cloud your common sense is shameful and rather exposes your fragility.
Letting this cloud your common sense is shameful and rather exposes your fragility.
If that’s aimed at me, nothing fragile about me. If he wants to go he can go as far as I am concerned as long as we have a suitable replacement.
Within the last 48 hours on this thread I have been called xenophobic amongst many other insults just because my opinion differs to theirs.
By the way I’m a foreigner living in England even though I shouldn’t have to explain my background.
This has nothing to do with Pogba leaving, it’s common decency, if you’re loyalty to a football team overshadows this then it says a lot about the type of person you are.
You’ve been going on in this thread like the guy has banged your wife for quite a while now
I don’t agree with anyone being racially abused, maybe I’m getting off track and this belongs in the other pogba thread.
You’ve been going on in this thread like the guy has banged your wife for quite a while now
Ok I’ll step out of this one - honest
You’ve been going on in this thread like the guy has banged your wife for quite a while now
The username is ironic too given the efforts Fergie made to try to keep Pogba before he went to Juve
Enter the "real world" where Gary Neville can't be criticized? Confusing post.
Hi Gary Neville. Any other random conclusions you would like to draw to fit the narrative in your head?
I’m not talking about the racial abuse, I’m talking about you justifying the abuse at the stadium. You tried to pin it on Pogba which is what I take issue with. Doubt we’re going to agree on this anyway so whatever.
There was a quote from Sir Alex about Gary's temperament and it is obvious that he found a fault in this situation to actually go on a 'rant'.
Do you think fans would or wouldn't do what they did if Gary didn't have his rant on TV?
Do you think fans would or wouldn't do what they did if Gary didn't have his rant on TV?
Stop replying to me in this thread - I’m o u t out
It was good knock all the same.
Didn't quite get that century though!
I’m in two minds about all this. Racism like other ism’s is abhorrent but we are giving these fools a lot of attention which is what they want.
Internet feckward syndrome in full force.
'Preening', in this context, is worryingly close to 'uppity'.
Stop preening with your fancy words, you uppity welsh.
PS: I'm still not sure if you are actually welsh.
I am, but with Irish & English bits.
The whole reason he was shirtless in the first place was that he had just given his shirt to a young fan moments earlier before that ugly exchange yet he even got slated for that
“Pogba exposes himself to a young fan”
The poster is using an extreme example to illustrate how ridiculous it is to condemn Neville for not commenting on the racist abuse. Now of course one can claim that the example is a little over the top, but I personally think you just enjoy being an outrage merchant, with all the finger-wagging that entails (I don't even think you're really that outraged; you likely just want to be seen to be outraged.) I checked some of your other posts in this thread and others (because yes I am that petty,) and the number of posts that start with something along the lines of: 'outrageous post!' or 'an atrocity of a post!' is quite amusing.
It is absolutely unacceptable that Pogba or for that matter anyone should be racially abused. Such activities must be condemned strongly. I do not know Gary Neville at all to know if he is a racist or not or if his rant at Pogba emboldened someone else to abuse Pogba. But people in respected positions should know that what they say could be used for racial abuse. From what I have seen on the TV it looks like Gary Neville is losing the plot as he seems to be in a constant rage these days and ranting even on the Sunday debate.
Yeah it’s just another version of the microagressions often used to describe blacks, along with lazy, arrogant etc.
The irony in this post. An outrage merchant you say? I've also gone through your post history. Didn't you, when having a discussion with JPRouve start talking about racism? Even though he had explicitly said he didn't suspect any racism in Neville. And when you got called out for it, you backtracked and called it a misunderstanding? No wonder threads get derailed, when we have posters who are intent on misrepresenting other peoples perspectives. Either that or wilful ignorance.
Outrageous response! What an absolute travesty that you conflate.....don't you understand nuance....willful ignorance! I'm outraged!
No form if racial abuse should have to be tolerated by any people in our world. Yet for some reason people on social media seemingly think it is ok when hiding behind a fake username.
It seems like racial abuse and racism can not be stopped in the modern football world, which is a sad reflection of our culture- and not just the uk. There needs to be real sanctions for people on social media who spout obscene nonsense to players. It is a game of football... people will miss penalties, people will make mistakes and we will all be disappointed when we don't win, but it's not like they are deliberately playing poorly.
Paul Pogba is the most talented footballer at our club in my opinion. As fans we need to show him support!
It seems like racial abuse and racism can not be stopped in the modern football world, which is a sad reflection of our culture- and not just the uk. There needs to be real sanctions for people on social media who spout obscene nonsense to players. It is a game of football... people will miss penalties, people will make mistakes and we will all be disappointed when we don't win, but it's not like they are deliberately playing poorly.
Paul Pogba is the most talented footballer at our club in my opinion. As fans we need to show him support!
Oh, I've upset his little feelings, poor sausage. I promise to do better.
And on that note, I'll stop the wind-up, given that this is a pretty serious thread.
I do understand the point you’re making but in this case I don’t agree with it. Like you are free to disagree with my point.
Just for context (as you’ve brought it up twice (the first time I thought I’d just let it slide)), if you’re referring to the post match interview on Sky, after the 4-0 defeat to Everton, Neville never call Pogba ‘rotten’.
The Sky host used the word ‘rotten’ (when referring to some players and the dressing room) after Neville described the performance as ‘rancid'. The host then asked Neville to ‘name names’. Neville replied that ‘I don’t need to name names Dave. Everyone knows who they are. They’re in the newspapers every single day. They’re on social media every single day’.
The host then said ‘Well I think people would assume you’re talking about Paul Pogba but before the game today you said it wasn’t Pogba’.
If that’s the interview you're referring to, then you’re putting words into Neville’s mouth and misquoting him on a public forum which I think is unfair and only adds to this new finger waving rhetoric towards him.
As a ‘Full Member’ with all the ‘privileges’ that it brings you on this site, should you be allow to misquote someone and add to the narrative that some people are beginning to believe on here that Neville is some kind of hate speech enabler?
I’m not saying that this is your narrative but people can read your words, 'called him "rotten" on live television’, not fact check it, because lets face it, it’s on the internet so it must be true, and then fire off a quick Tweet to Neville calling him a ****, because of what he called Pogba.
Just like some idiots listen to what Neville is saying but hear something else and then go off to post bile online.
I don’t care what your personal feelings are towards Neville. You can criticise every word that comes out of his mouth but when you start spreading falsities, that’s crossing a different line.
I’ve tried finding a quote from Neville where he has called Pogba ‘rotten’ but so far I’ve failed to find one. If you can, then I apologise to you and please ignore everything that I’ve written.
Neville has been quoted as saying the club was 'rotten to the core’ but as I understand it, that was aimed at United’s hierarchy. Maybe this is where your misunderstanding has come from.
Most people took that as a dig at Pogba. Its not exactly a stretch to think that:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/nev...dressing-room-are-all-on-social-media.446752/
People can think it was a dig at Pogba but he didn't say it was Pogba.
And especially then when people go on to misquote what he said, filling in the blanks with what suits their own personal agenda, I think that is dishonest.
It's important to look at what the host said directly after his comment 'I don’t need to name names...', which was missing from the transcript from your link above. Thanks for sending by the way, I'll give it a proper read.
Host
‘Well I think people would assume you’re talking about Paul Pogba but before the game today you said it wasn’t Pogba’.
If you care to watch the post match reaction, here it is:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2kpr4AXPU8
Either this is a wind-up, you didn't watch the interview, or you're just being willfully ignorant. It's clear he was talking about Pogba to anyone who knows a context clue when it hits them in the face:
Start at 1:20
Joke post.
Souness looks so pleased with himself. He hates Pogba more than anyone.
Been away from this thread a few days and people are still talking about Gary Neville