I wouldn't be surprised if he's on the bench Sunday. In fact i wouldn't be surprised if he plays the last 10-15mins.
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tbh he could probably do way more minutes, he's kept himself in shape all summer doing various sporting activities, He's a very fit, young lad.
He has no real bedding in period as he knows a hell of a lot of people at the club already (players, staff, laundry ladies, security the list goes on) He said himself it's same faces as when he left and it feels like he's home so settling in obviously isn't an issue, he will get a good few training sessions in before Sunday so honestly don't see any reason he can't start, he won't do full 90 of course but I bet we could get a decent Amount of minutes out of him.
I don't think he will start him (as much as i'd like him to!), but i do think he will be on the bench.
Mourinho will have no 'set in stone' prerequisites for a player to play in a match like van Gaal (who will have decided before a game to sub off a particular fullback on 76 mins, despite the player playing well and showing no signs of fatigue)
If Pogba is fit enough and looks sharp in training, he'll start. And I think there's a good chance of this because Pogba is in phenomenal shape and was doing stuff like kickboxing whilst on holiday.
If Pogba is fit enough and looks sharp in training, he'll start. And I think there's a good chance of this because Pogba is in phenomenal shape and was doing stuff like kickboxing whilst on holiday.
Mixed feelings about whether he should start next game. Part of me thinks first game send out a statement with Pogba, get team used to him asap as we can't afford to integrate him too slowly and it will get awkward if we win and then have to drop someone to start him.
Then I'm thinking how cool it would be to see his first minutes at Old Trafford.
I think Jose just wants to win first and foremost, so Pogba will probably start next game in a 4231.
Then I'm thinking how cool it would be to see his first minutes at Old Trafford.
I think Jose just wants to win first and foremost, so Pogba will probably start next game in a 4231.
ESPN's Alex shaw reckons Pogba is using United as a stepping stone lol
We won't start him in few days time. He'll get some training and match fitness first
Pogboom is better. Or Pogbinho... in terms of nicknames imo. He earned them both at Juve. The first one was for his long distance shots and the second was because of his brazilian-like technical skills.
As far as Pogba, I bet you he either starts or comes in at halftime this weekend. He's in peak physical shape.. he's not the type that gets fat/lazy during the holidays and then needs 2-4 weeks to get back in shape.
As far as Man Utd being a stepping stone... that's really up to Man Utd. If Pogba is playing at an elite level and Man Utd are an elite team in Europe, then he stays. If Pogba is elite and Man Utd cannot become an upper echelon team in Europe, he will leave. It's really not that complicated. He wants to win everything.
As far as Pogba, I bet you he either starts or comes in at halftime this weekend. He's in peak physical shape.. he's not the type that gets fat/lazy during the holidays and then needs 2-4 weeks to get back in shape.
As far as Man Utd being a stepping stone... that's really up to Man Utd. If Pogba is playing at an elite level and Man Utd are an elite team in Europe, then he stays. If Pogba is elite and Man Utd cannot become an upper echelon team in Europe, he will leave. It's really not that complicated. He wants to win everything.
Ha ! What does that make Juventus then? Kindergarten kick around?
Obviously I'd love to see Pogba start on Sunday. Its Mourinho's call, and I wouldnt question it (as he'll see what state he's in - mentally and physically). I imagine Pogba will be itching to get started but Mourinho might prefer him to watch his new teammates for the first match. There's prob slightly less pressure starting away from home I guess (but even that is questionable as he's been there already!)
He's a united fan, just being hugely paranoid as most united fans are these days.
Anyone know anything about a buyout clause in the contract?
How much is it? cause RM will probably come a knocking if he has a good couple seasons.
How much is it? cause RM will probably come a knocking if he has a good couple seasons.
Someone said tomorrow.
Yeah but what about easing him in and then there is the international break in a few weeks which would give him a few more weeks of getting up to speed.
It's all about building towards the City game imo.
For a supposedly clued up journalist, he doesn't recognise the huge costs it will take to get him to Real. That, if they couldn't afford him now, how in hell will they be able to afford him in 3-4 years? They will likely have a massive kit deal with Adidas coming up but we more than offset that with our mammoth TV deal and our sponsorships, not even including Chevy. Furthermore, they would have to break the wage structure at Madrid to get him. Kroos isn't even on the wages Pogba is on, while Pogba's wages are more comparable to the Galacticos in attack.
If I was Utd, I'd demand 175m (substantially more than a year's worth of their new shirt deal with Adidas) as a minimum if Real ever had the barefaced cheek to come looking for him.
Given the global fascination generated by his world record fee, I think its important for Pogba that he delivers strong performances in his first few matches. He is undoubtedly world class and will soon establish that, but he can do without any initial negative reviews.
For that reason, I think Mourinho should get him allow him some time on the training ground so he can sharpen his skills and get as close to match fit as possible.
Debut as sub in the game before city and starting XI vs City is the target I'd set him. Hopefully he wins that game with a MoM performance.
You really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there 
Let's get real. He didn't go there because they didn't want to pay him the amount of money he demanded... not because they couldn't. I also think that adding the ambition of Pogba to those of Ronaldo and Bale wasn't without big risks... it's a lot to have 3 alphas. Even Bale and Ronaldo clashed for Bale's first 2 years. It's only this past year that Bale/Ronaldo co-existed well and that's mostly on Zidane. Ronaldo was rumored to be looking for an exit when things were going poorly under Benitez.
Let's get real. He didn't go there because they didn't want to pay him the amount of money he demanded... not because they couldn't. I also think that adding the ambition of Pogba to those of Ronaldo and Bale wasn't without big risks... it's a lot to have 3 alphas. Even Bale and Ronaldo clashed for Bale's first 2 years. It's only this past year that Bale/Ronaldo co-existed well and that's mostly on Zidane. Ronaldo was rumored to be looking for an exit when things were going poorly under Benitez.You really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there
whom had Real signed this year?
You really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there
You are of course correct. It had nothing to do with money. He just didn't want to go to Madrid so much. He'd rather play in the Europa lol. That said united is obviously the more natural/organic fit. Thankfully his mother likes England. Pogba likes England. In 4/5 years the landcape will be very difficult for clubs and United I'm sure will play it smarter then what we've seen in the past.
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That and Perez doesn't like Raiola, or black playersYou really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there
I see you made it across buddy! Welcome aboardYou really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there
Real don't need anyone in the midfield. They have Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, Isco, James and Kovacic to cover 3 midfield spots. In fact, they're incredibly deep.
The issue with the Pogba signing as follows for them:
- signing Pogba meant that one of Kroos or Modric would need to get benched. Modric is better. It's debatable with Kroos.
- jealousy issues. Ronaldo and Bale are supposed to be the trophy players. Where would Pogba fit?
Didn't seem like a very good fit for them in terms of team dynamics at this juncture. Nothing to do with finances. Real Madrid have more money than Man Utd. They're also a public entity so you just need to look at their financial statements and compare it to Man Utd. They had 577 mil in revenue last year while Man Utd had 519.5. Both clubs can buy whoever they want.
@cyberman... sup dude. I have to support my frenchies. You know that lol. Very good forum here btw. Best club forum I've come across for any club easily.
The issue with the Pogba signing as follows for them:
- signing Pogba meant that one of Kroos or Modric would need to get benched. Modric is better. It's debatable with Kroos.
- jealousy issues. Ronaldo and Bale are supposed to be the trophy players. Where would Pogba fit?
Didn't seem like a very good fit for them in terms of team dynamics at this juncture. Nothing to do with finances. Real Madrid have more money than Man Utd. They're also a public entity so you just need to look at their financial statements and compare it to Man Utd. They had 577 mil in revenue last year while Man Utd had 519.5. Both clubs can buy whoever they want.
@cyberman... sup dude. I have to support my frenchies. You know that lol. Very good forum here btw. Best club forum I've come across for any club easily.
You only need to look at the pathetic behaviour of AS, Marca and Ballague to see they obviously wanted him.You really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there
That's without the insane TV deal we'll be benefiting from this year. This year's Deloitte league table will be illuminating reading for Madrid fans the world over.
What's the new TV deal I keep hearing about? Will it give us more advantage compared to the rest of the teams in the league, comparable to Real Madrid and Barcelona in La Liga?
I was at Deloitte a few weeks back for their presentation of their football finance report. It's a lot more in depth that just the money league that the tabloids run with, it's a brilliant report every year.
And yea, PL is miles ahead and pulling away.
You really think Madrid couldn't afford him and that's why he didn't go there
You think Pogba just told the Juve board "just sell me to the club willing to pay me the highest salary"?
I definitely think Madrid wanted him, but that they simply weren't prepared to outbid us.
Yea and the fact Balague didn't even tweet about the transfer being done to United. So butthurt Madrid didn't get him.
It's basically the one that was agreed back in 2014, massively overvalued but the bottom line is this: the bottom placed team this season will get a guaranteed amount that is similar (or maybe even more) than the amount that Leicester got for winning the league. Insane isn't even the word.
I don't think United do buy out clauses. As we've seen this summer you can insert a clause into a player's contract that you think makes that player untouchable but things can change very quickly in football. And what was considered crazy money to deter potential buyers can soon become a reasonable fee for a top talent.
Besides i have never understood the need for buy-out clauses. If United don't want to sell then they can just say no regardless of the offer. Simple.
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What I like about the video, I noticed it yesterday while re-watching it, at the 19:54 mark it starts to show Pogba's defending, his tracking back and winning the ball. What really interested me was that when he won the ball, most of the time he would start an attack within a second. It's something the club has been missing for a while now. When we win the ball, it usually goes backwards, or forward then backwards. In the video, it's almost always going forward very quickly. Very nice to see and I hope that mentality can be picked up by the other midfielders.
p.s. That GAEBBA person is pretty talented. I see he made videos of Guillermo Varela, Timothy Fosu-Mensah and Marcus Rashford too.
Why did we sign him for 5 years with an option to extend for 1 more year? Why not 6 years?
Juve recieve €5million if he extends his contract. I'm guessing that was part of the deal.
Cautious optimism maybe. I mean, we had Di Maria AND Falcao, look how that turned out! Seems daft to get too bullish before a ball's been kicked.
When has need, jealousy issues (seriously?
) stopped Madrid from purchasing their new toy?It's funny how Madrid fans can't take it when Utd have clearly outmuscled them financially.
Also, the assumption that Pogba would have preferred Madrid to United is also not necessarily true.
Lastly, "Modric is better" is debatable. Pogba is better than Kroos and with a higher ceiling than any other midfielder at the moment (bar Veratti).
I presume it's some sort of protection against a player running their contract down. If we're approaching the end and they don't look to be likely to renew, we activate the clause and sell them with at least an extra year to see out. Just a guess.
Wait, what? Isn't that the point of a buy out clause, that the club is contractually bound to accept the offer?
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