France has a better side then our and international football is usually played at a lower tempo (and is quite frankly shitter) then club football
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France has a better side then our and international football is usually played at a lower tempo (and is quite frankly shitter) then club football
There is no blueprint, he can do whatever he wants. I wouldnt take him back because his attitude/mentality stinks. Saying you hate to lose and having a dance off 5 mins later just gives off a bad vibe. Kinda like ok, we lost, so what. Would Fergie have allowed that type of reaction in the dressing room, after a defeat? Hope you understand now, have a nice day.
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Amazing. How many years of under performance do you need to see with one player?!
He already left the club twice - on a free transfer both times. I guess that's not enough for some people, and they want to see him leave for free a third time?
The forum is full of these utter clowns. We see people saying Moyes needed more time, that Fred, McTom, Evans, Welbeck shouldn't have been let go.
Despite wall to wall moans about said players for years before.
Agreed. I've only been a member here since May, but I've been lurking since 2008. I've seen some truly baffling takes.
One of the worst I saw recently was that Woodward was a good CFO, and just needed a world class manager under him.
The older we get the more we see the same patterns.Agreed. I've only been a member here since May, but I've been lurking since 2008. I've seen some truly baffling takes.
One of the worst I saw recently was that Woodward was a good CFO, and just needed a world class manager under him.
New manager comes in, we assume this is the guy who will sort it...but it'll take time...
Brings a few new players in at great expense, who sound decent on paper.
Couple of dodgy early games, but he hasn't got his new players up to speed yet.
Turn the first season round to a "decent" finish.
Optimism builds, especially as we'll get rid of all the "toxic" players in the summer
2nd season drops off, new players look pretty average, pressure starts to build.
Lots of anti Glazer sentiments, after all them being crap is why we can't get 11 players to play decently on the pitch despite spending 100s of millions
Management refuse to act early, instead waiting until top 4 / cup is out of sight.
Eventually sack the manager, always 6 months past the point it's plainly obvious we're going nowhere
New manager comes in, we assume this is the guy who will sort it...but it'll take time...
"I wanted to leave but came back for pre-season because I wanted to be professional"
along with Sancho did United ever have a more unprofessional professional?
along with Sancho did United ever have a more unprofessional professional?
He denied dancing after defeats so who knows ? SAF belongs to another era anyway, not everything he did was perfect
After jetting off to Miami and Dubai on his own whim. How gracious of him
He never learns does Pogba……be humble, accept the decision and keep your mouth shut and head down. They call it humility.
Me me me and me. Felt sorry for him before but he is like Meghan Markle - always the victim.
Total show pony. Fergie was soooo right.
Me me me and me. Felt sorry for him before but he is like Meghan Markle - always the victim.
Total show pony. Fergie was soooo right.
Mourinho was right too, Pogba was a virus. As im trying to explain to the poster above, the crappy mentality rubs off on other players.
Guess its his word against Rooney's, there are also videos !!
Mourinho labelled him a virus for a reason. SAF got rid, for a reason.
Always thought Rooney meant in dressing room for training after defeats.
Guy is in his 30s, drug banned and still defending his crap reputation. Says enough
Guy is in his 30s, drug banned and still defending his crap reputation. Says enough
Nope
And a World Cup winner
Agreed.
If you dont like the guy you don't like the guy, but let's not rewrite history and say our decline started with him or he's the worse thing to happen to United in a decade etc
I fecking hate how true this is. I hope we can somehow break the cycle with our next manager.
I thought we had broken it for good with EtH.
Once he does depart I am very curious to see how well he will do at another club. If he gets another job, that is.
Same here. I thought that he was going to be the one.
It was when he said he couldn't get us playing the Ajax style, despite having almost a whole X1 of their old boys that was the maddest moment.
Unless there was another moment, the dance thing was the following day at training rather than immediately after a defeat.
It always amazes me that people seem to have more of a problem with a player dancing or getting haircuts than they do about players getting drunk, smoking cigarettes, doing drugs, staying up all night partying or playing video games, getting into fights, etc. All much more unprofessional and have a much bigger impact on the performance of the player.
Was Pogba perfectly professional? Hell no. But the way he seems to get talked about as if he's the very face of being unprofessional is ridiculous.
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Yep, happens to just about every player/manager we’ve had post SAF. I guess it doesn’t help that we’ve generally replaced these players/managers with more duds for the most part. But yeah, strange on here that we seem to clamour for just about everyone who we’ve let go - no matter how average.
Exactly. Like what the actual feck was that even all about.
Don't believe all the bullshit you read by his PR team mate. They are literally employed to make him look good no matter what the circumstances.
I had a friend who was an actor, did the West End, toured, you name it. Whatever theatre production he was in or place he went to, his PR/agent would spin it to suit in the official programme.
When he played in Edinburgh it said he couldn't wait to get back to his roots because his 'grandad was a proud Scottsman born on the docks of Glasgow..." His grandad was actually born in Brighton and never left the place.
They would make shit up for any place...London, Liverpool, Manchester, Cornwall, Devon...even the US when he toured over there..."came back to his ancestors who trod the boards of Broadway..." yet all his ancestors were born in Grimsby.
Don't believe the woe is me act Pogba is putting on right now, he's paying thousands to a team to help him do that.
Alright, Nigel.
Pogba's United career wasn't disaster - I even think seasons from 2018/19 until he left (when he was available), he was quite good (this doesn't mean great). Of course he was inconsistent and frustrating but there were plenty of good moments. However, you can't live of just moments and also his attitude surely didn't help. All that combined with losing him for free twice while paying 100 million for him in 2016 makes the whole transfer look really bad. Do hope in future we'll look to buy players who fit the profile in terms of attitude and character, alongside with having quality to play for United.
Denied doing it right after a defeat in the dressing room, not denying dancing altogether
But he's also been a victim of blackmail from his brother. That also impacts you , we can't act like those elements don't play a role. He wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination but he's also gone through stuff none of us ever have.
It's a bit sad this ain't even acknowledged enough in this thread
Somewhere in UK, @Jeppers7 is fist pumping in the air
"Haha! take that Bruno!"
"Haha! take that Bruno!"
I don't think I've ever seen anyone angrier at the silly dancing and look at me haircut nonsense than your other examples.
All of the above are bad stuff.
Moorings was an absolute toxic mess late on though. There were even accusations on here late on that he was trying to get sacked.
Regardless, he's been spot on about a few issues within the club. Shaw doesnt try hard enough, Rashord can never be United's main striker, Pogba was a virus. Think he wanted to get rid of Martial also during that period. Toxic or not, he called a few players out on their b shit.
Didnt Paul Mcgrath love a good old piss up, didnt seem to stop him from being a United legend, Pogba could never be spoke of in the same breath. Players can get a pass on some things if theyre producing the goods consistently. Otherwise you will be scrutinised. Pogba was known for being largly inconsistent, with a poor attitude. Nobody said anything about him being unprofessional.
I think your reply is a bit of an odd one with genuine no value.
I'm not suggesting we give him a long term contract. I am merely toying over the idea to offer him a short term contract given the negative situation we find ourselves in again.
Our midfield doesn't know how to create. Bar Erikson, no one with vision to unlock a defence. Pogba in his previous spell was largely a mess but at times and when motivated, he showed his talent. In the last sentence I wrote, it is dependant on his attitude. What I mean by that is people often react to periods of negatively with the need to prove themselves. We could offer him a stepping stone to reignite his career, could he give us something back for 6 months?
I think it's worth a conversation rather than being black and white about his previous spell (which was largely an attitude problem).
Feel free to think it has no value, that's your right. I think your premise of bringing back a player who was becoming more injury plagued, whose influence was waining, a few years on is absolutely madness. Especially when he recently admitted he didn't even want to be here near the end.
Making a mistake with a player twice is foolish, a third time would cement our laughing stock nature.
Pogba is so gifted, but I would never want him back in United. Two times he has been here, and both times did not end well. The best way to predict the future can be by looking into the past.
Well your first comment had no value because you offered no explanation. However, the second does because now I understand your thinking.
I don't disagree with what you said in the second post, I think it's 100% fair to be cautious.
Personally, I like a risk or a gamble, maybe that makes me foolish, maybe it makes me lucky.
Either way, I can't really argue back with what you said because it's also the reality, he annoyed a lot of people in his last stint.
Will probably end up in Saudi now that Juve said they don’t want him.