Don't think he had that good of a game yesterday tbh. He was caught way too often in the possession and he couldn't make his usual runs with Sanchez operating in his favourite spot. He should have given that penalty to Lukaku.
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Oh I wasn’t defending the pen - that was embarrassing - just saying I’ve noticed his overall performance level is dropping.
Unsurprising that we saw a more average performance yesterday when he was played in that deeper position we saw him in so frequently under Jose. Was needs must though given how Andreas was struggling.
I don't get the sarcasm here, he absolutely sacrificed his attacking ability to sit as the deepest midfielder in the second half. Pogba is not a CDM and it's not shocking that he isn't scoring/dribbling/creating from the halfway line.
I do think he has looked tired the past 2 games and he was completely selfish to not give Rom the penalty but I thought he controlled the tempo in large parts of the second half very well. There is nothing fancy in controlling the game with short and smart passing so people tend to ignore it. Carrick being underrated for most of his career is a fine example of people not caring much for it.
Not getting the criticism of Pogba yesterday. In simple terms if he hadn't of played we definitely lose that game.
Controlled a lot of the second half from deep, then moved forward at 2-2 and influenced the attack.
He wasn't individually outstanding but he was a very important factor in the win.
He needs to improve his conversion on penalties though.
Controlled a lot of the second half from deep, then moved forward at 2-2 and influenced the attack.
He wasn't individually outstanding but he was a very important factor in the win.
He needs to improve his conversion on penalties though.
More to do with the midfield completely changing, with Pogba having to play different positions. People always want to make it about something stupid, like his hair.
Was watching the game again and just realized something I don’t really like about pogbas game. Too often he drifts to the far left of the pitch and waits there. He often leaves all responsibility of trying to control the gAme from deep. It’s like he’s hoping that our other players try and control possession while he receives the ball in the later stages to do his thing.
Ofcourse this changed later in the second half when pereirra was moved to the number 10 and he had to tactically stay deeper. Still it’s very alarming that we get dominated by similar teams to Southampton at home whenever we play.
We all praise pogba for being very versatile but I don’t think controlling a game is one of them. I think that’s his last step to actually being the best midfielder in the league. He needs to learn how to control a game by not hiding out at the left waiting for the ball and sometimes keep it simple and composed when everyone else around is shitting it.
Ofcourse this changed later in the second half when pereirra was moved to the number 10 and he had to tactically stay deeper. Still it’s very alarming that we get dominated by similar teams to Southampton at home whenever we play.
We all praise pogba for being very versatile but I don’t think controlling a game is one of them. I think that’s his last step to actually being the best midfielder in the league. He needs to learn how to control a game by not hiding out at the left waiting for the ball and sometimes keep it simple and composed when everyone else around is shitting it.
There are sometimes when he could just pass to someone closer to him but he goes for the long ball switch. He did that yesterday when mctominay was standing right next to him but went for the switch to young which was over hit and out for a corner. I’m not 100% sure if that was the throw in that led to their goal from pereiras lost dribble.
Still my main point is he needs to learn when to go short or long while passing. At times he is too direct in his passing.
Pogba played a disciplined role for the team, no issues there. He looked genuinely annoyed at himself for not scoring the pen and some credit needs to go to Gunn for saving with his legs.
Also after the great equaliser Pereira was understandably elated with the subs, team and crowd going mad too, he was the one who ran over telling them to come back because the game wasn’t won.
Also after the great equaliser Pereira was understandably elated with the subs, team and crowd going mad too, he was the one who ran over telling them to come back because the game wasn’t won.
If i remember correctly that was a good switch. Young misjudged it and let it go out of play
How can young misjudge a ball that was a bit over his head requiring him to jump just to control it? Young is at fault for many things but let’s not add this to it. The ball from pogba was over hit.
When Sanchez plays he always seems to get in Pogba's way instead of running off him.
Young misjudged the flight of the ball and was awful throughout yesterday. We then won the throw-in and he proceeded to play Pereira into trouble with it resulting in us losing the ball and Valery scoring for them.
I personally think Pogba’s attacking play is suffering a bit since Martial’s injury. They seem to be mostly on the same wavelength when they play together and Pogba is missing Martial on the field at the moment. Just a little observation I’ve made.
Why, did you think he'd score ?
Never thought i'd say this but his performance levels were just fine until he started fannying about with his hair again.
Think he's missing Lingard as much if not more.
Of course, it's a pen after all and he scored his last few ones didn't he ?
Or when Matic+Herrera got injured ? It's only his 2nd game in a row with the color change
I was at the game, it was a great bit of play from Pogba. Beats the press and opens up the game. All young has to do is take a step back or two steps and control it with his foot or chest. Instead he stands still. Totally on Young that a better player would have had no problem.
I don't know what his successful conversion rate is but he's missed a few that's for sure. He just doesn't look like a natural penalty taker hence the stupid run up and you could have put good money on him missing it yesterday when he for selfish reasons deprived Lukaku of the chance to complete a hat-trick by taking it.
And he's been poor for the last two games. As the unofficial best midfielder in the world, and one of, if not the highest paid he is allowed to take responsibility on the pitch when we've got important players missing, but he's not doing that, and for those that say he looks tired maybe he should take a look at old videos of Bryan Robson, Paul Ince, Roy Keane and Brian McClair and look at the effort they put in season in, season out and in a midfield two as well, none of this three in midfield to share the workload nonsense.
Everyone misses a few in their career but he he score his last few ones so why the hell wouldn't I expect him to score yesterday
? That is also taking into account his run-up.You have a weird logic that I'm having trouble following.
Players aren't allowed to have average games for you, look at how he's been playing under OGS, look at his productivity and his mileage.
It only takes some kinda special bias to think he wouldn't get tired at some point, specially when both Herrera and Matic are out.
Enjoy our current players, the past is what it is. Making pointless comparisons is a sure way to get annoyed at our current players.
You can admit that you don't like him personnally, it is ok but as long as it doesn't color your judgment.
Everyone misses a few in their career but he he score his last few ones so why the hell wouldn't I expect him to score yesterday
You have a weird logic that I'm having trouble following.
Players aren't allowed to have average games for you, look at how he's been playing under OGS, look at his productivity and his mileage.
It only takes some kinda special bias to think he wouldn't get tired at some point, specially when both Herrera and Matic are out.
Enjoy our current players, the past is what it is. Making pointless comparisons is a sure way to get annoyed at our current players.
You can admit that you don't like him personnally, it is ok but as long as it doesn't color your judgment.
Indeed. He played a key role yesterday in giving us a foothold in the game because McTominay understandably wasn't doing that, Pogba wasn't getting the ball further forward. We changed shape and Pogba gave us control from deeper. Then at 2-2 he went higher up the pitch and influenced us in an attacking sense. He wasn't as individually spectacular but he was vital.
Although his rate isnt great, I went back and watched the game for contex and he had a good game. I doubt there is a better taker on the team
That's a great question isn't it ? Thankfully it's only a minority that still questions him though.
Yup, the Crystal Palace game too was very similar. We were pissed off at him for not doing that under Jose. Let's just consider how high his "low" performances currently are.
He's 5/8 from the spot this season.
Everyone misses a few in their career but he he score his last few ones so why the hell wouldn't I expect him to score yesterday
You have a weird logic that I'm having trouble following.
Players aren't allowed to have average games for you, look at how he's been playing under OGS, look at his productivity and his mileage.
It only takes some kinda special bias to think he wouldn't get tired at some point, specially when both Herrera and Matic are out.
Enjoy our current players, the past is what it is. Making pointless comparisons is a sure way to get annoyed at our current players.
You can admit that you don't like him personnally, it is ok but as long as it doesn't color your judgment.
We're just not any good at penalties, in fact I don't think we've had a reliable one since the days of Steve Bruce and Eric Cantona and most United fans I talk with feel as I do that whoever takes one these days we just expect them to miss, then you factor in that Pogba took the penalty when Lukaku would have wanted to it was even more obvious/likely he'd miss.
Seriously ? I've seen players have great games yet still get destroyed on here.....
I don't disagree that his pens could be a lot better for sure. Did you read about what Lukaku said regarding the pen ? He backed Pogba all the way, there is a hierarchy, if Pogba gives it to Romelu then kudos to him and if he doesn't then there's no drama, even if he was on a hat trick. The fact that Lukaku could have wanted it has nothing with Pogba's chance of making it or missing it. That makes no sense whatsoever
Lukaku said he wanted Pogba to take it. we seemingly operate with a designated penalty taker, not on "oh you're on a hat trick you should take it" thing, considering this isn't the first time lukaku gets overlooked despite being on a hat trick. also, maybe lukaku is just not that great at pens:
There's zero problem in him taking it instead of Lukaku. Pogba is better than Lukaku in pens anyway. The problem is in the stupid run, that's all. Don't know why people are focusing on him taking the pen instead of focusing on how he took it.
With the grief he's currently getting Lukaku is hardly likely to come out and say he was pissed at Pogba for not giving him he penalty was he ?
So it's better for you to imagine things and make your own narrative ?
I feel Pogba will once leave united as he gets little love from United fans. They once booed him under Jose and all he gets is shtick the minute he underperforms his usual meteoric levels. He’s usually the best player on the pitch even when man of the match is dished out to other players. Pogba is just judged differently. I think somehow the nonsense from pundits gets to United fans as I don’t think there’s a Pogba song either.
You just have to look at that PSG game and the one player who looked like he belonged there was Pogba.
You just have to look at that PSG game and the one player who looked like he belonged there was Pogba.
If the stats above are correct Pogba has missed 3 out of 8 from the spot, that's nearly half, maybe its time for him to be undesignated
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Pogba is a top player no doubt but this is a nonsense post. I have never heard any stick for Pogba from the OT crowd. He was piss poor against PSG too, played out of the match by Veratti and Marquinhos.
Far too much being made of the penalty miss yesterday. When a keeper saves with his trailing leg it’s a lucky save. Even Messi has missed a few penalties in his time.
Whatever.
Salty much?
Yeah fatigue made him miss the penalty, what nonsense. He struck it badly, shit happens.
Messi is awful at penalties, folks don't say he is a bad player. Up to management to say no more penalties for you Pogba, X player is taking them now going forward.
Salty much?
Yeah fatigue made him miss the penalty, what nonsense. He struck it badly, shit happens.
Messi is awful at penalties, folks don't say he is a bad player. Up to management to say no more penalties for you Pogba, X player is taking them now going forward.
Don't recall saying Paul was a bad player, but i'll go back and check, put the kettle on i'll be back in 5
No but having cheap digs at him cause he missed a penalty. It's funny cause folks slate him for not working hard enough and then when a supporter suggests he might be fatigued he also has so called supporters like you then having a dig too.
It's sad to see the unwarranted abuse Pogba gets, easily our most talented outfield player and he's won pretty much everything bar a champions league and only 25 years old.
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