Exactly, all the more reliable reports from Belgium have stated this.
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Exactly, all the more reliable reports from Belgium have stated this.
You forgot many things. France were fast, passed fast, broke quick and scored in bundles (i.e. Argentina). You can have a fluid, purposeful counter-attack. You can also have a fluid purposeful possession based attack (i.e. Man City). Maybe you mistook Mbappe's purposeful runs for the lateral, sideways runs/passes of Mata and Lingard. Perhaps you missed Varane's and Umtiti's purposeful forward passes through the lines because you were fantasizing about Smalling's 5 yard body-contorting lateral passes.
Sounds like a personnel problem. There's a reason why Mourinho wants to add a ball playing CB and RW this summer.
Mourinho has coached some of the most fluid, purposeful counterattacking sides in the last 20 years. I'm pretty sure having an insipid counterattack with players failing to make forward runs to stretch the defense isn't his vision for United, because it wasn't his vision at Chelsea, Inter or Real.
Interesting that you bring this up, because he literally didn't get to express himself during the WC and just got on with his game. Many people including Jose thinks thats what brought the best out of him.
The idea that he somehow got a free role at France and excelled at the World Cup is bizarre. France strength was their discipline and the fact that the whole team helped on defense, Pogba played pretty much the type of role that would normally be expected of him at United.
Unfortunately, Pogba wanted it more with French national team than with United. Can't blame Mourinho for Pogba's serious lapses of concentration as far as defending that at times cost us games and left Mourinho with no option but to bench him. Unfortunately, today's pampered players would rather blame the manager rather than look at the man in the mirror.
This is a manager who made him fabulously rich..yes ..but i think he expected superstar treatment even when not performing which is not Jose's way.
The French national team coach doesn't mess about either and Pogba knew he had to toe the line or get dropped. Mourinho's treatment benefitted him a lot this world cup ...just that again..he won't want to admit that.
This is a manager who made him fabulously rich..yes ..but i think he expected superstar treatment even when not performing which is not Jose's way.
The French national team coach doesn't mess about either and Pogba knew he had to toe the line or get dropped. Mourinho's treatment benefitted him a lot this world cup ...just that again..he won't want to admit that.
What I find especially ridiculous is that for the first 1.5 years Pogba was here, Mourinho defended him publicly from any and all criticism, even firing back at United legends-turned-pundits like Scholes and Neville, which he, of course, was also criticized for by many on the Caf.
Or maybe, just maybe - World Cup's come once every 4 years, and this was a great chance to win the competition given that the likes of Germany, Argentina, Spain, Italy, Brazil were knocked out or didn't qualify?
The amount of reaching on here is ridiculous.
Well Barca have signed Vidal so can safely say they wont be getting Pogba as well
Sounds like a manager who cannot coach up players, who stifles attacking talent and whose style is not appealing to top players.
I really don't understand why this is so difficult to understand (well actually I do). "Expression" isn't simply about what role/position or tactical assignments you are assigned. It's about what kind of canvas you are provided with, the freedom to try new things and yes, make mistakes and then have the support to try again. Didier Deschamps does not dwell on the mistakes and drown players' confidence because he knows the brilliance is decisive for his team. It's in these environments that high skilled players excel. You don't commission a work of art, tell the artist what colours, what canvas, what brushes, what paint to use just as you don't compare a creator to the 'simple genius' of a championship level player's 5 yard sideways passing. No, if you want to replicate the ordinary you go get a colouring book and get a 5 year-old to colour inside the lines.
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Yeah dude, it's subjective.
I really don't understand why this is so difficult to understand (well actually I do). "Expression" isn't simply about what role/position or tactical assignments you are assigned. It's about what kind of canvas you are provided with, the freedom to try new things and yes, make mistakes and then have the support to try again. Didier Deschamps does not dwell on the mistakes and drown players' confidence because he knows the brilliance is decisive for his team. It's in these environments that high skilled players excel. You don't commission a work of art, tell the artist what colours, what canvas, what brushes, what paint to use just as you don't compare a creator to the 'simple genius' of a championship level player's 5 yard sideways passing. No, if you want to replicate the ordinary you go get a colouring book and get a 5 year-old to colour inside the lines.
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Yeah dude, it's subjective.
What are you on about his role for the French National Team was what Jose has been trying to get him to play for United all of last season. Maybe it was as Jose stated and that fact that every game means something and that made Pogba accept his role unlike he has at United. Asking Pogba to play a specific role to benefit the team isn't restraining him it's called football discipline.
Will Pogba be back and training for Fridays Leicester game?
Or stupid man management ?
You don't restain Pogba to allow average players like Lingard. Lukaku, and Sanchez more freedom.
Mourinho should build the team around Pogba or allow him to leave.
Pogba would never change his game for a top 4 spot.
This squad isn't the french NT ffs. Except Pogba, the only WC player is De Gea.
I would argue that more would be expected from him, for France he was asked to be a defensive box to box, alongside a more attacking box to box and a sweeper behind them. For United it seems that he is the main enforcer and creator.
What a weirdo.
Stupid man management to expect a player to execute a given role within a team? The fact that you call Lukaku and Sanchez average really says it all. It's obvious the goal isn't top 4, Jose isn't saying Pogba follow my tactics to secure a top 4 spot. That was accomplished with Pogba being hurt and inconsistent last season. It's about taking the next step and winning trophies.
He bought an AM for a world record to play him in a midfield 2, benched him for a no-name and he even tried to belittle Pogba when he won the World Cup .
If it isn't a stupid man management...
The goal is the top 4. Just look at the team. You are deluded if you think that you can win the league or the CL with that average squad.
And obviously Sanchez/Lukaku aren't WC.
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He bought an AM for a world record to play him in a midfield 2 and benched him for a no-name because Pogba wasn't happy. If it isn't a stupid man management...
The goal is the top 4. Just look at the team. You are deluded if you think that you can win the league or the CL with that average squad.
And obviously Sanchez/Lukaku aren't WC.
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Because his form dropped, and the kid who stepped in his place did a fine job in his absence, the fact that Pogba was happy or not doesn't really matter. Great player as he is, when he's off it was awful and frustrated to watch.
Before the "but Lukaku" comments, none of out sub really played to his standard even in his goal drought as a lone forward. And even IF he was still picked because he's the manager's favourite, it still doesn't equate Pogba being benched because he's unhappy.
Lukaku wasn't benched in the middle of the season when he looked like Bamby on the ice. He was awful for months and his game against City was laughable. We lost the title because when Pogba was injuried, Lukaku played like a pub player.
And the fact that Pogba isn't happy to be restricted on the pitch and criticized in the media by his coach doesn't matter for you or Mourinho.
But for Pogba and Raiola, it's a huge matter.
He'll leave this summer or next if the dinosaur treat him like Obi Mikel.
Doesn't matter in term of him being dropped, how do I explain this any more clearly? If he was unhappy but played like he did in the beginning of the season, there would have been absolutely no dropping in the first place to talk about. So was he unhappy? I don't know, maybe. Was he dropped because he was unhappy? No.
As I have stated my point of view re: Lukaku, I won't keep repeating the same thing over.
Why Doesn't Jose utilize pogba in the Lampard role like his 05/06 team.
Pogba and Lampard share similar characteristics both have a good eye for goal, can take a shot from distance and can pin a pass. It's the same Role Pogba plays for France.
A Box To Box mid where he can come on the end of moves like Herrea did the other night and also ping a pass over the top or through the defense lines. You Already have Sanchez and lukaku. That would be Robben and Drogba all you would need is to sort out your RW i think martial and rashford can do a job their they just need more intelligence in the role. Fred and Matic and your midfield should be ready to dominate and boss games.
The problem is this Jose doesn't look like he's enjoying his job anymore.
Pogba and Lampard share similar characteristics both have a good eye for goal, can take a shot from distance and can pin a pass. It's the same Role Pogba plays for France.
A Box To Box mid where he can come on the end of moves like Herrea did the other night and also ping a pass over the top or through the defense lines. You Already have Sanchez and lukaku. That would be Robben and Drogba all you would need is to sort out your RW i think martial and rashford can do a job their they just need more intelligence in the role. Fred and Matic and your midfield should be ready to dominate and boss games.
The problem is this Jose doesn't look like he's enjoying his job anymore.
This was the role he was used in almost any time he played in a midfield 3 alongside Matic and Herrera/Fellaini.
The problem isn't Jose, the problem is that we have a defence that requires that the rest of the team drops back to our own box in order to be able to defend. If he had four world class defenders(And a top level right winger), he'd set the team free.
On here it's incredible how troll and wum posters are found out within seconds but troll and wum journalists seem to come away unscathed.
Pogba is staying put. He loves it here.
Pogba is staying put. He loves it here.
Nah that can’t be right. He played in a midfield two alongside Kante, to the right. Kante was the holding player and Pogba the no.8. Mbappe kept himself higher and free, compared to the other flank where Matuidi used his energy to get up and down the pitch (I’m guessing he’s the more attacking box-to-box you refer to) and he tucked in very diligently when defending, to the extent of equalising Mbappe’s positioning (it reminded me of the way we kept Ronaldo free for counter-attacking on the right wing and used Park Ji-Sung for balance - or Hargreaves in the Champions League final, against Chelsea). Giroud and Griezmann dropped off and helped close down deep midfielders or cut out passes to them. Pogba, Kante and Matuidi all worked tirelessly to keep their shape in conjunction with the back four. Pogba had every bit as much responsibility as the other two - he had to think about covering Mbappe/ supporting Pavard - and he performed remarkably well. When France gained possession, Pogba was their most creative/ progressive passer by far and was excellent at enabling Mbappe.
Most often for United last year, Pogba would play in a midfield two with Matic, as a no.8 with Matic holding. Rashford or Martial would generally hold their width on the left but didn’t get (warrant) the kind of freedom afforded to Mbappe for France, or to Ronaldo and Hazard in previous Mourinho sides - they did their share of tracking back and retreating into the team shape . Lingard or Mata down the right looked to come inside in possession but recovered to a routine right-sided defensive position when we didn’t have the ball. Although not Matuidi, both are and were diligent defenders. And they didn’t need to be Matuidi, as the left winger adequately balanced the side defensively. Lukaku worked hard and maintained a higher starting position in defence than the France pair, but that was offset by the other player for us (Mkhitaryan, Fellaini, Lingard) operating in a no.10 role and dropping alongside our deeper pair when required.
Pogba’s roles for his club and his country were about as close as you can get, bearing in mind the different circumstances. France were playing tournament football, they defended deep and hit on the counter-attack. Especially in the knock-out rounds, there wasn’t the same need to be pro-active and get a goal and a win. Were France to have trailed games more often, Pogba would have been the player tasked with progressing the ball from defence to attack as he is for United. Conversely for United, the onus was mostly on us to take the game to our opponents. If or when we found ourselves defending a narrow lead in a deep shape, Pogba’s place in the team would be/ was to defend diligently alongside the holding midfielder within the team set up, as it was for France. I don’t see how there was more expected of him at United.
That's where everything ends, he didn't.
Midfield two... midfield three... irrelevant... but yes, he did...
Lukaku and Sanchez are average, heard it all now. Oh Jose is a dinosaur. That explains it.
What the hell was that.
First time you hit the pipe is always the best.What the hell was that.
As far as posts go it’s one of the worst I’ve seen in this thread in quite a while.
Fact that guy thinks it's a great post says a lot really.
ZERO chance of this lad cutting his holiday short for us haha
He doesn't need to. The man has just won the World Cup. Let him enjoy his holidays. He'll anyway be back in a day or two.
Every post in this thread is based on pure fantasy
Exactly. He actually deserves a holiday to celebrate, yet posters won’t complain that Lingard and Young only returned today.
Have We ever had other players who's a world cup winner? Schweinsteiger... and...?
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