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It's Pogba you know, it's hard to believe it's not ebola
It's Pogba you know, it's hard to believe it's not ebola
It's freakish, the physical and technical tools he has at his disposal isn't fair. If he can keep up form like this in an attacking system, he could be pushing for a Balon D'or next year.
It's freakish, the physical and technical tools he has at his disposal isn't fair. If he can keep up form like this in an attacking system, he could be pushing for a Balon D'or next year.
Seems alright for a girl to postMate, dunno how you worded that in your head, but in reality it doesn't really look that good.
Except that my perspective has always been that the system was wrong and the Pogba was not performing due to this failing system.2 games. We have seen this before. Let's all calm down a bit and see how he does when up against a decent side.
Yes, he did have two games this season like that. The one you are talking about, and one other earlier in the season.I'm not a United fan, so I think I can give a neutral perspective on Pogba.
It is clear that Mourinho was managing the team extremely badly, and this impacted on numerous players, including Pogba. In my opinion, United should be challenging for the title with this squad. Not necessarily winning it, but player for player they should not be 13 points behind Spurs.
However, a few weeks ago, I think it was against Southampton, Pogba was dreadful, just ambling around, and even doing kick-ups next to his own penalty box and being dispossessed.
You cannot just handwave that away, and say it was all Mourinho's fault, and a result of negative tactics and poor man management. I accept that Mourinho wasn't getting the best out of Pogba, but no professional footballer, or pretty much any footballer at any level, should be doing kick-ups near the own goal, before being dispossessed.
That is totally on Pogba. It is the responsibility of the player to play like a professional. The fact that he's now playing really well, while I agree that it's due to tactics and management to some extent, or possibly even to a very great extent, as a professional footballer, let alone supposedly one of the best players in the world, it is incumbent upon you to display professionalism at all times. This is regardless of what you're being asked to do, regardless of the climate of the club, and regardless of how you might feel.
It should be noted that Pogba completely failed to do this, and it's not right, in my opinion, to simplistically state that he's playing well now because the shackles are off. As the most expensive player in the history of the Premier League, he has to take some responsibility for his performances, regardless of who the manager is.
It's not just being bad, though. Every player will put in bad performances. Even Messi has the odd indifferent game. But you cannot start doing kick-ups near your own box, and lose the ball. That shouldn't happen at any level of football. I don't think Pogba should be given a free pass for that.Yes, he did have two games this season like that. The one you are talking about, and one other earlier in the season.
I think it's important to remember that he did have those two terrible matches, but also to remember that it was only those two matches where he was that bad. Listening to some people on here and in the media (and perhaps his ex-manager) made it sound like he was like that regularly.
It's not just being bad, though. Every player will put in bad performances. Even Messi has the odd indifferent game. But you cannot start doing kick-ups near your own box, and lose the ball. That shouldn't happen at any level of football. I don't think Pogba should be given a free pass for that.
I hope he goes on to be a great player for United, I will always have a soft spot for them as I lived in Manchester, and have attended Old Trafford loads of times in the Ronaldo era. But I don't think any player should be excused for unprofessional conduct.
I wouldn't say hammering it hard, I'm surprised other people don't remember it. It was in the first-half versus Southampton. The reason I have mentioned it is that I noticed it at the time, and it was just obvious that he wasn't trying. You just don't do that as a professional footballer. So I don't think anyone can reasonably claim that it was all Mourinho's fault, even though I have been critical of Mourinho and believe him to be an overrated manager.You seem to be hammering this point quite heavily, I can't remember, when did this happen?
Must be a performance enhancing virus. I can't think of any other.
Got better as the game went on. Newcastle away next Wednesday is his first test. Those are the kind of games he goes missing in.
Some people say it's the big games he goes missing in, now you saying it's matches of the ilk of Newcastle
So which is it?
The horror.This is the type of player you start watching football for.
Imagine wanting to get rid of him for Mourinho's tumescent brand of football
He had a great performance even without the goals. Solskjaer expansive style suits him perfect. When the game becomes stretched/end to end there's no other player I would swap him for. Just wait when Martial and Sanchez come back. He'll rack up the goals and assists very quickly
Well because of him and Martial Jose might have kept his job longer than he should have. In my eyes that's terrible.Well, he was terrible against Newcastle earlier this year.
Well, he was terrible against Newcastle earlier this year.
Well because of him and Martial Jose might have kept his job longer than he should have. In my eyes that's terrible.
Mourinho would have pushed him out. I'm so happy we sacked that man.
My personal favourites now are the ‘look how good he is now he’s trying’ posts. Brilliant.I can't remember the number of posts I've read saying that both Mourinho and Pogba should leave. What a lack of insight some showed.