Beginning to think he isn't happy in the current system and is letting that show on the pitch. Jose has a challenge on his hands.
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Probably but it also helps the system and team hes playing with to do so.
Sanchez has come in and shown them all what it means to actually play with quality and be a relentless worker throughout the game. I’d be incredibly pissed if I was Sanchez at the moment, the rest of them (bar Lukaku) needed to show so much more today.
Is the Caf collectively dumb or is Mourinho being stubborn? Pogba functions better in a 3 man midfield.
The current system is bullshit but if he’s intentionally messing about then he needs to get a grip.
I'm not surprised. I sensed straight away that Jose was talking shite.
If people think those energy levels were typical of Pogba, then I don't know what to say.
Nor should he be. Don't get me wrong there's no excuse for the lack of effort from him today, but to be fair he's playing under a manager who insists on having him do a job he's never been well equipped to doing, instead of playing to his strengths.
Play KdB in a midfield two in this team and he'd look half the player he currently is.
Totally underwhelming as usual. Nothing that upsets or surprises me though. He just isn't a real world class midfielder. He's a flashy video game player nothing else.
Pogba would have been shite in that game no matter the system (and many other games).
We did play a '3 man midfield'. Several times Lingard was at the edge of our box doing midfield work because Pogba was jogging for the whole game.
Can we stop with the De Bruyne comparisons? He is the best player in the league, two years older, having his best ever season playing for the best team in the league. We're expecting too much if we want Pogba to start playing at his level right now.
Don't you miss Ronaldo?
People expect too much of Pogba. He likes to be the main face of his club or team, but he doesn't have it in him to be the main player.
Scapegoated once again. Probably our third best outfield player, which isn't saying a lot.
KDB is only older than him by 2 years and he's one of the main reasons City are clicking.
We should be expecting Pogba to put similar performances to him and lift our team as KDB do. He has been doing well for most of the season but his head seems completely lost since that Spurs game, now jogging on the field doing nothing and appears as shadow of himself.
Compare this game to the 4-1 home win against the same team this season, he had a goal and assist and held us this day. Now it's completely the opposite.
We paid a lot for him to put these performances we were expecting from him. I love him, but no excuses for such poor performance. Mourinho deserves blame for formation but Pogba is just not doing enough.
Yep, I'm leaning to believe the journo as well. It's not like Jose doesn't have the history of talking shite and deflecting the blame from himself, remember when he called out Shaw saying it wasn't an injury only for him to be out injured for a few months? Man's spouting rubbish.
the lads injured. He should have come off but to be honest we don't have great depth at the minute. Hopefully he's alright for next game.
I'm fairly confident he was injured. Just hope he didn't aggravate anything by playing.
What if Pogba is faking an injury to excuse his horrible performances? Why are posters so sure Mourinho is a liar and not Pogba?
So it's a crap video.
He didn't say he was injured as far as I'm concerned, and I really don't think he was.
I only argued currently, potentially I think Pogba could be the better player but he needs to apply himself.
He's way too casual. He has a very languid style of play that often veers into being lackadaisical. In his first season here he was playing very much as an individual and very selfishly. He would often hold onto the ball, encouraging the opponent to press him just so he could hold him off. It's a very selfish way of playing and would often lead to him ignoring his teammates just so he could show off a little.
This season he started to move away from that. He's at his best when he does the simple things well - receive the ball and quickly move it on. No theatrics, just keep it all moving. One-two's; let the the ball do the work. But these last few weeks or so he's been regressing back to his bad habits. That languid style that can sometimes look classy and smooth, is now looking careless. He's ambling around and it's that insouciance that's resulting in us losing the midfield battle. Today he was fecking schooled by Shelvey. Jonjo fecking Shelvey.
He needs to remove his head from out his arse pronto.
This season he started to move away from that. He's at his best when he does the simple things well - receive the ball and quickly move it on. No theatrics, just keep it all moving. One-two's; let the the ball do the work. But these last few weeks or so he's been regressing back to his bad habits. That languid style that can sometimes look classy and smooth, is now looking careless. He's ambling around and it's that insouciance that's resulting in us losing the midfield battle. Today he was fecking schooled by Shelvey. Jonjo fecking Shelvey.
He needs to remove his head from out his arse pronto.
Mourinho is being stubborn for sticking with this 4-2-3-1 rubbish. Pogba isn't a happy player I sense and like another poster mentioned it's no different to playing KDB at DM. How you can you put your main creative asset in a defensive role? Just look at the freedom he had against Everton compared to today. That is 100% Mourinho's fault.
Why would Mourinho say he wasn't injured? Why would he still play most of the game? Even if he was injured, you still put in more effort then what he did. He jogged around all game and didn't even attempt to challenge for the header for their goal. It was an embarrassing performance from him, injury or no injury.
I think he was faking his injury towards the end.
Pogbas performance was not on mourinho.
We drastically need someone in midfield with some balls everyone is way too nice
Pogbas performance was not on mourinho.
We drastically need someone in midfield with some balls everyone is way too nice
Neville pointed this out in commentary. We played with a midfield three. Lingard wasn’t playing as a forward. Won’t stop the excuses and looking for other people to blame, mind you.
Why would Jose admit to leaving an injured player out there following a defeat? And how do you know the extent of the injury and how it evolved over the course of the game?
And it was pretty clear Lingard had been asked to start tracking back after half time.
He was wincing in his face when he got to the bench after he was subbed and the camera panned to him. Looked like he was in some pain or something
Don't know what is so funny. People here suggesting that Mourinho is lying sounds more plausible to you?
Really needs to step it up. Piss poor today and against spurs. On his day he’s a class above but he’s not consistent enough and doesn’t seem to know how to adapt in different game situatiations which is a big worry. Up to him and Jose to work it out.
When it comes that, I am most definitely not.
Whats more plausible to you, Mourinho, known for deflecting, lying post defeat or Pogba not caring during a game and then pretending to hobble in front of the media?
We need Scholesy back from his retirement again...
Jose said there was no problem. Pogba looked injured when he lost the ball but then looked fine again when the ball came to him.
Basically he's doing what kids do when things don't go their way.
Basically he's doing what kids do when things don't go their way.
He could be walking with a limp without actually being injured in the way Mourinho meant. Most players carry knocks and niggles into and out of games, it doesn't mean they're injured in such a way as to affect their performance.
I'm thinking of someone like Aguero who seems to constantly limp off when subbed even when he isn't actually injured in a meaningful way.
I'm thinking of someone like Aguero who seems to constantly limp off when subbed even when he isn't actually injured in a meaningful way.
at around minute 34:18 in the first half i had the impression i saw him bend over and touch his leg. it looked like he pulled/felt something on his left leg
maybe @GifLord could work his magic and capture the moment?
maybe @GifLord could work his magic and capture the moment?
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He always walks with a limp so I'm not reading too much into that.
He looked in pieces when he was on the bench. Something isn't right.
He looked in pieces when he was on the bench. Something isn't right.
He had a horrid horrid performance from the very first minute. If anyone thought he had a good game, go watch where he was when NU players regain possessions. He’s almost always further up field watching our players defending. Always up near Lingard but it’s lingard who comes back to defend. Even Alexis and martial comes back to defend. Pogba just strolls where pogba wants. He just looks like a midfielder who has lost all idea of what a midfielder needs to do because he’s grown a big head of being the superstar that he thinks he should be.
The goal we conceded was down to him losing his guy on set piece defensive duties. This has happened way too much. If he played with half the intensity and want that the NU players had, we would have been able to keep the ball forward and in their half.
The goal we conceded was down to him losing his guy on set piece defensive duties. This has happened way too much. If he played with half the intensity and want that the NU players had, we would have been able to keep the ball forward and in their half.
He’s playing crap. And he’s always getting fecking injured. I’m sick of it.
I know he’s not the ideal CDM in a 4231 but still. We expect more than this. We demand more than this.
I know he’s not the ideal CDM in a 4231 but still. We expect more than this. We demand more than this.
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