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2016-17 Performances


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6.3 Season Average Rating
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51
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9
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He was horrendous today, along with the rest of our midfield. He's not a no.10 though, and once again he found himself receiving the ball high up the pitch with his back to goal and play behind him. feck me, have we not learnt anything yet this season?

We dominated and ran the game for 70 mins. How was our midfield poor.
 
Seems to take four touches to decide what he wants to do. It'd work so much better if he just played the obvious pass at times. So often had Mhki or Martial running outside of him, yet seemed hell bent on passing to Zlatan. :rolleyes:
 
This sums it up.

Does it? Juventus won their league multiple times on the trot and reached a Champions League final. He played more or less every game.

Usually, I would argue that any team playing Victor Moses at right wing back couldn't top the Premier League, but looking at the evidence that would be bollocks. Rather like some of opinions in here.

His performance was terrible, for what it's worth. But he's far from the problem.
 
Thought it was his worst game for us. He tries to make things to complex for himself, eg going into a crowd of three to try and run past them all instead of a pass into the man in space. When he moves the ball first time and keep its simple, he makes it look so easy.

It seems like he gets bored at times and has to try and make it as difficult as possible.
 
Does it? Juventus won their league multiple times on the trot and reached a Champions League final. He played more or less every game.

Usually, I would argue that any team playing Victor Moses at right wing back couldn't top the Premier League, but looking at the evidence that would be bollocks. Rather like some of opinions in here.

But wasn't the main man there, IMO. Pirlo at 35 was still better than him.
 
He was horrendous today, along with the rest of our midfield. He's not a no.10 though, and once again he found himself receiving the ball high up the pitch with his back to goal and play behind him. feck me, have we not learnt anything yet this season?

Jesus. Why do people keep saying this? He wasn't playing as a 10. Himself and Hererra were playing ahead of Carrick. Which gave him license to get forward whenever he wanted. He blatantly wasn't a 10 though. He's been playing in the same position in almost every game this season but every time he plays badly we get all this crap about him playing in a position he wasn't actually playing.
 
But wasn't the main man there, IMO. Pirlo at 35 was still better than him.

Well he was right up there. Let's not get smart, Pogba was a crucial part of that successful Juventus side and they were good enough to give it to Real Madrid in a Champions League final.
 
Poor display today but he's been good for us, overall. If we could just finish our chances he sets up.
 
According to WhoScored, it was 73%. 45 out of 62 passes.
Wow that is shit.
He can be hit and miss but like the stat sky showed, he has created more than anyone else which normally justifies his erratic style but today it just wasn't working.
Have to say Jose should of brought him off, the more he tried the worse he got
 
Well he was right up there. Let's not get smart, Pogba was a crucial part of that successful Juventus side and they were good enough to give it to Real Madrid in a Champions League final.

He was excellent but so were many of his team-mates: from the keeper and the defenders to Tevez.
 
He was shit. Should have been taken off for Mata after 60 minutes.
 
Losing faith in this guy. Less because of his performances and more because of the type of player he appears to be. Seems to always look like he's being played in the wrong position, no matter which position he's in.
 
What I'm saying is obvious from the context. Maybe you should take it into account?

I've no idea what you're saying tbh. The discussion was about whether or not Pogba can be a key player at a top team. He evidently can, whether or not his team-mates also play well. That's the thing about top teams, they have lots of good players.
 
We looked better without him in the last game.

I think it's a bit odd having a player who's kind of a midfielder, and kind of a flair player, but not really totally solid at being either.

He's very good, individually, but slotting him into the team is, I think, starting to get quite annoying.

I'd love to replay that Everton game with this team...

----------------------DDG-------------------
Val----------Jones----------Rojo-------Blind
-------Carrick------------------Herrera------
Henrik--------------Mata------------Martial
--------------------Zlatan-------------------

Deep down, I know we'd win it comfortably!
 
Very disappointing performance, one of his worst this season. All players play crap games though, it happens. All in all, I think he's been improving throughout the season.

The feeling when I watch him reminds me a bit of Nani, often trying extremely ambitious plays. Days like this when it doesn't work its incredibly frustrating to watch, screaming "simple!" to the television.
 
He just sort of waltzes about doing nothing doesn't he? Except the occasional skied shot every now and again. He really needs to step it up a few gears.
 
Losing faith in this guy. Less because of his performances and more because of the type of player he appears to be. Seems to always look like he's being played in the wrong position, no matter which position he's in.

He's been our best player this season. Opinions change on here so wildly and at the drop of a hat.
 
What was the point in signing him then play him out of position?
 
I've no idea what you're saying tbh. The discussion was about whether or not Pogba can be a key player at a top team. He evidently can, whether or not other players also play well. That's the thing about top teams, they have lots of good players.

He wasn't the main man at Juve. The post that we are discussing says that no top club should have him as their main man. I'm not sure about the latter as he is still young and could develop further as a player. My worry is about his decision making. It's not top class.
 
We seem to play better when he plays deeper in a two in midfield. With the players we have i don't think it suits him or the team for him to play further forward in a midfield 3.
 
Bit of a contradiction there.

He's frustrating as feck because he seemed to turn a corner in the last few weeks. By God he was shit today, though. We were infinitely better without him mid-week. Bit mad that our star player makes us so much worse. That's a shite state of affairs.

It's not at all really.

You can be a very good player and just perform badly. In the same way you can be technically unbelievable but not have the mentality or intelligence to be effective.

For me there's no doubting his attributes, both physical and technical. As well as his star quality.

The issue is he doesn't fit in the team and seems to want to constantly do it himself at a snails pace, grappling with every opposition player and shooting from 40 yards with his weak foot whilst off balance.
 
He was poor today but most of the posts in the last few hours have been worse. Jesus.
 
Gueye did a magnificent job with containing him, and it was Pogba's poorest game in a while, especially in terms of attacking contributions. Incidentally, our worst game from an attacking perspective in a good while, as well.
 
Does it? Juventus won their league multiple times on the trot and reached a Champions League final. He played more or less every game.

Usually, I would argue that any team playing Victor Moses at right wing back couldn't top the Premier League, but looking at the evidence that would be bollocks. Rather like some of opinions in here.

His performance was terrible, for what it's worth. But he's far from the problem.
He wasn't Juventus' main man. He's wasn't even their main midfielder. He shared the load with a good few equally talented (or 'more talented' players) - which is the point.

At United, he's expected to actually be the main man (with Zlatan) and he doesn't have it in him.
There's nothing wrong with that. Lots of very good players aren't able to be main men. Di Maria, for example. Ozil as well.

But until Pogba isn't the main man/star player, United wont be a top team.
 
It's a strange one because he's good at holding on to the ball. Sometimes it's great because it gives time for someone to make a run or get into a better position, but other times he seems to do it unnecessarily and it ruins our attack. It was all the latter today.
 
He wasn't Juventus' main man. He's wasn't even their main midfielder. He shared the load - which is the point.

At United, he's expected to actually be the main man (with Zlatan) and he doesn't have it in him.
There's nothing wrong with that. Lots of very good players aren't able to be main men. Di Maria, for example. Ozil as well.

But until Pogba isn't the main man/star player, United wont be a top team.

Where did I suggest he was their main man? I said he was one of the key players in their side, which is true.
 
He wasn't Juventus' main man. He's wasn't even their main midfielder. He shared the load with a good few equally talented (or 'more talented' players) - which is the point.

At United, he's expected to actually be the main man (with Zlatan) and he doesn't have it in him.
There's nothing wrong with that. Lots of very good players aren't able to be main men. Di Maria, for example. Ozil as well.

But until Pogba isn't the main man/star player, United wont be a top team.

So we broke the transfer record for someone who can never be our main man? Somehow I doubt that was our thinking at the time.
 
So we broke the transfer record for someone who can never be our main man? Somehow I doubt that was our thinking at the time.
Unfortunately, yes.
It happened with Di Maria too (but obviously just a club transfer record.)
 
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