If he was english he would be ten times worse, we love to rip into our stars
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Totally agree and I would do it for free..
Definitely needs a "good bollocking" or at least a boot in that direction..
He can probably get away with those centre circle antics in training when he only has rubbish to beat. In the heat of the battle he's pathetic though and needs a massive rethink.
i hate to say it, but there seems to be a bit of the rooneys about him
I remember when we was good, back on page 186, but that was so so long ago now...Oh no wait, it was literally 3 weeks.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/paul-pogba-2016-17-performances.420541/page-186
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/paul-pogba-2016-17-performances.420541/page-186
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I don't know what it is with Pogba, but he's certainly dropped a level since a while back so surely it can only be tiredness? Not many chances to really give him a rest.
So what games were Pogbas best performances this season? At what time was he great? I haven't seen all United games this season, but I can only remember one game when I thought he played really well (don't remember against who though). Which games were his best performances so far in a United shirt?
That's the million pound question and one hopefully Mourinho can solve. For me he plays too much for himself and not enough for the team. The amount of times he loses the ball in his own half by trying to do too much with it and a simple pass to a teammate is available is infuriating.
'A few years time' why buy him this season then if he still needs years to develop into a top player?
You don't know why its prudent to buy a top prospect when you have the chance?
Yes but prospects don't cost £89 million, the finished product does.
Maybe in 2005, that's not how it works now.
Pish posh! Everyone knows he's been rubbish all season, in fact if you go through the comments after each game they're 100% negative. He's probably the worst transfer ever made in the history of football!
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Neymar transfer with all the fishy behind the door activity was rumored match Bale's world record fee. That's years ago. He was not all that in his first season...
Oh. And not some random prospect but already face of big brand with huge commercial value. Stones cost 50 mil too. Not to forget fecking bottler Higuain was among top 5 (or higher) most expensive player in the world (only the players than moved club, not value of every active player). Welcome to 2016 & 2017
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If it's any consolation, he'll probably no longer be the "world's most expensive player" by next season
What are you on about 'urban' kids?
This.
Have you guys noticed that he started playing excellent when he finally bought himself normal-looking haircut (probably because he was a bit ashamed for prancing like a "Pogboom" while being outplayed in every game at that time), and regressed at the exact same moment when he got back to being Blondie and they published his fecking emoji?
He's just a young, a bit immature guy, with incredible set of skills. With a right (Jose's) guidance and full preseason under the belt, he'll turn out more than fine. But I admit, it is frustrating watching him having the identity crisis in front of millions of envious pricks.
When you say top prospect, you make it seem like a 20 year who has just broken through. He is already revered as one of the best in the world in his position, mulitple league winner, European Cup and Euro Championships Finalist. The prospect days are long gone. In his early days at Juve he was a top prospect. Now he is an established player as is the likes of Harry Kane. Obviously he is not the full article yet but how long are you going to regard someone a "top prospect". When Ronaldo went to Real, he was the same age as Pogba and certainly not considered a "top prospect" smh
Kids from inner cities, ghettos and not the burbs
My worry is that JM doesn't have a reputation and track record of success in guiding young players with potential through to the finished article.
Well, at least not as much as SAF did with so many we had at OT during his time in charge.
I'm not sue PP has demonstrated anything yet to make us think he can make the necessary advance and changes to both his game and personality on his own.
Well, at least not as much as SAF did with so many we had at OT during his time in charge.
I'm not sue PP has demonstrated anything yet to make us think he can make the necessary advance and changes to both his game and personality on his own.
Players like Lampard, Hazard, Ozil, Cech all were around Pobga's age when played under Jose and all did well.
Does it sound racist/discriminatory at all?
Urban kids are basically more street aware, aware of new trends ie fashion, music etc because they grow up in multicultural environments and know more people
Nah, you're fine. Some just jump to the "racist" conclusion far too fast.
Anyway, I would love to see Pogba in a midfield three with Fabinho and either Herrera or another new CM next year
Yeah, I think Mourinho has a very good record with players around this age, its the younger players around Rashford and Martials age where he has historically not been s ogreat.
Those guys didn't come with the self-inficted circus that Pogba brings.
I know what you mean. I think they were teasing. I used to wear urban clothes when I was young because I thought it was cool.
They didn't even come with CV like Pogba did.
Some of the posts here are
. Young man can't even enjoy his time or post few pics on his social media.Do you remember the way Hazard announced his transfer to Chelsea and how it annoyed quite a lot of people at the time? Like Mourinho said this week the world changes and you can't fight these things.
True. Hazard admitted that in France he just wanted to entertain the crowd and dick about. That changed under Jose. I don't know what Ozil's mentality was like, nor Cechs nor Lamps.
Lamps was in his mid 20s when Jose arrived so u can count him out. As for Pogba he needs to chill and start playing simple football seems to overdo things and its not going for him at all
That's a question of semantics, whenever you're buying someone not just for how they are now but how they will be in the future prospect applies. People talk about him as a ballon d or winner, they are his prospects, the player we have now is different. You stop regarding them as a prospect when they reach close to their top level or even their level. Pogba by most accounts isn't anywhere near there yet.
Has anyone mentioned how they don't like his hair instagram yet today?
Yeah, usually Jose team and players are more effective than playing with lots of flair. I think Lampard would have been great no matter who the manager was, amazing professional.
Yeah, for some reason thought he was lot younger.
To the people who get annoyed by his social media. Don't you think the club has instructed him to be active? Maintain this brand the club itself made him out to be? As some have touched upon it was a very expensive transfer fee so the club looks to make as much as it can back in this brand they've created.
Personally I think it's all a bit silly and not my cup of tea, but I feel it's pretty obvious the club set out to make him become a social media personality. So don't use that as a stick to beat him with.
I also feel this brand he has been made out to be, is a massive distraction and the club has got it all wrong. You sign someone who obviously isn't the world's best player for a world record fee to a club that hasn't really created a tactical identity, and heap more pressure on him by creating this larger than life character. That hashtag surrounding the pitch against Liverpool was just awful.
As for the player himself, his form has gone off a cliff in the recent weeks. But the negativity towards him is over the top. Speaking of over the tops, his passing over the defence is something I haven't seen at this club for a very long time. He seems to create a golden chance almost every game. It was such a rarity here, a club that has been devoid of midfield creativity for so many years finally seems to have found an answer in Paul Pogba. He has tactical issues, but I'm more than happy to give him more time to find his place here.
Personally I think it's all a bit silly and not my cup of tea, but I feel it's pretty obvious the club set out to make him become a social media personality. So don't use that as a stick to beat him with.
I also feel this brand he has been made out to be, is a massive distraction and the club has got it all wrong. You sign someone who obviously isn't the world's best player for a world record fee to a club that hasn't really created a tactical identity, and heap more pressure on him by creating this larger than life character. That hashtag surrounding the pitch against Liverpool was just awful.
As for the player himself, his form has gone off a cliff in the recent weeks. But the negativity towards him is over the top. Speaking of over the tops, his passing over the defence is something I haven't seen at this club for a very long time. He seems to create a golden chance almost every game. It was such a rarity here, a club that has been devoid of midfield creativity for so many years finally seems to have found an answer in Paul Pogba. He has tactical issues, but I'm more than happy to give him more time to find his place here.
Pogba isn't even close to the issue with this team at the moment. He needs to improve his finishing and tactical discipline at times, but the only reason we're not in the top 4 or even pushing for the title is because outside of Zlatan our attacking players have not finished chances with any consistency or quite frankly stepped up when required. He's gone off the boil recently, but that's when the rest of the squad is supposed to step up and cover up for a drop in his level.
The reality is at this moment the team depends far too much on Zlatan and Pogba to deliver the goods week in and week out and when they don't we usually drop points. There are very few players that can saty on form over the course of the entire season without experiencing drops of form with the amount of matches we've been involved in this season.
There's a reason the priority this summer is adding goals to the attack and not improving on our creativity from deeper in midfield. Also at 23 improvement from an already high level is very likely rather than an impossibility.
The reality is at this moment the team depends far too much on Zlatan and Pogba to deliver the goods week in and week out and when they don't we usually drop points. There are very few players that can saty on form over the course of the entire season without experiencing drops of form with the amount of matches we've been involved in this season.
There's a reason the priority this summer is adding goals to the attack and not improving on our creativity from deeper in midfield. Also at 23 improvement from an already high level is very likely rather than an impossibility.
I wish United fans and the media would just lay off him for a while, preferably until the season is over. He is under pressure in every match which is expected due to his price tag, which he didn't decide, but the constant writing off by so many is simply a joke.
He is so young and although he has played for us before, he is still new to the Premier league. The way I see it is this - I know he is under performing but I won't come on here, twitter or facebook and slate him because I don't see what benefit it has for him or his performances. Do people who are furious with him want him sold? Are they angry that he cost us 90m despite himself having no say in the fee?
Fwiw I think he will sort it out. I think next season our whole club will sort it out. A bit of activity in thr transfer window, players getting to know eachother more etc. Until he has played for us in the Premier league for at least 2 consecutive seasons, I can't bring myself to write the guy off.
He is so young and although he has played for us before, he is still new to the Premier league. The way I see it is this - I know he is under performing but I won't come on here, twitter or facebook and slate him because I don't see what benefit it has for him or his performances. Do people who are furious with him want him sold? Are they angry that he cost us 90m despite himself having no say in the fee?
Fwiw I think he will sort it out. I think next season our whole club will sort it out. A bit of activity in thr transfer window, players getting to know eachother more etc. Until he has played for us in the Premier league for at least 2 consecutive seasons, I can't bring myself to write the guy off.
Right now the way he is performing he wouldn't get into our side - I honestly wouldn't take him ahead of Alli, Dembele, Wanyama, Eriksen on current form.
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