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2016-17 Performances


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6.3 Season Average Rating
Appearances
51
Goals
9
Assists
6
Yellow cards
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The social media shite people spout is bollocks. He doesn't even post on instagram everyday. It's as if people expect him to spend every waking second training for football.
 
Terrible first half. Better 2nd. A performance bad enough to be in the bottom but thankfully for him there were 8 other donkeys on the field who were pure shite.
 
Hot and cold again. First half pure dross. Those two balls to zlatan and rashford though were absolute beauties
 
What are people genuinely expecting of him? He played Rashford and Ibra through with absolutely incredible passes, that if they had any quality, should have resulted in a goal.

He isn't Lionel Messi, he isn't going to dribble 10 players and slide the ball into the net, anyone that expects those kind of performances are going to continue to be disappointed.

He could have won the game for us with those 2 passes, he should have but Rashford couldn't connect with the ball and Ibra is just too slow to get on the end of that and control it.

Was it his best game for us? No, but he still had moments that should have decided the game.
 
I'm pretty sure United are the only club in the world who can spend £90m on a player and have no idea how to get the best out of him or know whether they are world class or not.

If we're honest, its been a really poor bit of business by the club so far.
 
Two good passes in the second half won't change the fact that he was one of the reasons we didn't score in the first half, and not just because of his shit finishing.
 
I'm pretty sure United are the only club in the world who can spend £90m on a player and have no idea how to get the best out of him or know whether they are world class or not.

If we're honest, its been a really poor bit of business by the club so far.
If we're being really honest, there's a lot of people talking unmitigated bollocks in here.
 
Right, let's get one thing straight right off the bat. He's not worth his price tag right now. That much is obvious. He may never be worth his price tag - however the important thing is he is our player and on his day he is one of the best players in the world. But for whatever reason, he's not showing that at United at the moment. Or very rarely, and if so, in glimpses. We have to stop using his price tag as a bat to hit him with.

Now, in a sense, it's easier to single him out because of his status at the most expensive player in the world but he really needs to pull his finger out. It doesn't help that the jokers next to him have also decided to call it a day but it really is disappointing from the big man. I expect better, not because of how much he costs, but because I know how good he can be. He's still young but he wasn't this inconsistent at Juve.
 
The more he shows such inconsistency, the more he is wasting the number 10 role in our team. Mata came on and looked far more dangerous than he did in the first half.
 
He's had more than enough time to adapt. The fact he's been getting worse lately is very concerning. He's still playing like it's Seria A tempo.

There's no drive from him nor Herrera.
 
Need to get him on the left of midfield 3, with a quality winger and lb if we want to see him get anywhere near justifying that price tag.
 
Tbh he should be dropped with the form he's shown the last few weeks. Fellaini would offer more. Sadly, the same can be said about Zlatan. At least that might give them a kick up their arses.
 
More interested in social media than playing football
Nonsense. Since you're so concerned with his social media, please have a look at his Twitter and Instagram profiles and look at how many times he posts during the week. Study it, then report back to me.
 
What are people genuinely expecting of him? He played Rashford and Ibra through with absolutely incredible passes, that if they had any quality, should have resulted in a goal.

He isn't Lionel Messi, he isn't going to dribble 10 players and slide the ball into the net, anyone that expects those kind of performances are going to continue to be disappointed.

He could have won the game for us with those 2 passes, he should have but Rashford couldn't connect with the ball and Ibra is just too slow to get on the end of that and control it.

Was it his best game for us? No, but he still had moments that should have decided the game.

Indeed like when he bottled the first half chance
 
What are people genuinely expecting of him? He played Rashford and Ibra through with absolutely incredible passes, that if they had any quality, should have resulted in a goal.

He isn't Lionel Messi, he isn't going to dribble 10 players and slide the ball into the net, anyone that expects those kind of performances are going to continue to be disappointed.

He could have won the game for us with those 2 passes, he should have but Rashford couldn't connect with the ball and Ibra is just too slow to get on the end of that and control it.

Was it his best game for us? No, but he still had moments that should have decided the game.
You are conveniently forgetting the chance he himself missed that was easier to score than those you mentioned?
 
Elephant still is in the room.

I expect the most vaunted, transfer fee breaking and marketed player on the planet to help us won these sorts of games with his supposed world class talent.

Instead we are treated to a midfield journeyman performance with a few strolling Hollywood passes.

Seems as though his modus operandi is one good game followed by 4 games of mediocrity - just about right for a team who is 6th in the Premier League.
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So much bitterness in this post because you got called out for your terrible thread (and rightly so).
 
Had the most offensive impact on the pitch again.

- played attackers through 3x with world class long balls (Ibra, Ibra, Rashford)
- got Ibra an open look for another big chance (34')
- perfect one touch pass to Herrera for his through ball to Mkhi (1')
- broke through on goal from an Ibra pass, but missed the chance
- beat a player in the box and lobbed the ball in smoothly (Ibra bicycle kick attempt)
- set up Rojo header from a few yards with his own header (perhaps unintentionally, I wasn't sure)
- curled shot on goal saved by Hull GK

That's 5 potential goals set up, 2 shots on goal that forced Hull's GK into pretty good saves, one pre-assist to a potential goal and another decent ball into the box. Sorry, but no CM will provide you with more impact in a team that has no real attacking plan besides long balls.

Like all creative midfielders he thrives on team chemistry and fluency. United had neither today. There will be no saviour that magically dominates games in a offensively stagnant team.
 
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If we're being really honest, there's a lot of people talking unmitigated bollocks in here.

If you don't think its worrying that the club have spent a world record fee on a player that not only hasn't been world class, but also hasn't substantially improved us then fine, but the 'unmitigated bollocks' is people that don't share that view.

I think you'd be lying though if you said that a little bit of you wasn't concerned about Pogba based on what we've seen so far.
 
Was pretty turd tonight (and for a decent part of the season to be fair to those complaining), but has shown enough flashes of things that 99% of other players just can't do with a football. Stick with him, see if he can begin to impose himself because if he can, he could just be dynamite.
 
Indeed like when he bottled the first half chance
You are conveniently forgetting the chance he himself missed that was easier to score than those you mentioned?

I'm not conveniently forgetting anything, his price tag doesn't make him a cyborg, Messi and Ronaldo miss plenty of chances too, would they also not be worth that kind of money?

He's a kid, anyone expecting him to bury everything and that all his touches turn to gold are kidding themselves, this isn't Fifa. There isn't a single player in world football that sinks every shot they take, let alone one that isn't naturally a finisher from close distance and still learning.

He's a central midfielder, his job is to get us ticking and be our creative force. He wasn't bought to score 20 goals a season, had our team been more fluent and finished even half the chances he's created for us this season we'd be much, much better off, that's for sure.

People trying to get the head of a player who can do things others in our squad can't even dream of, baffling.
 
Before the Liverpool game everyone was talking him up. Now after one terrible performance and a couple of average ones the world is caving in.

If Rashford or Ibra had finished one of those incredible passes the narrative would be very different.
 
If you don't think its worrying that the club have spent a world record fee on a player that not only hasn't been world class, but also hasn't substantially improved us then fine, but the 'unmitigated bollocks' is people that don't share that view.

No the unmitigated bollocks is idiots moaning about social media or haircuts or citing transfer fees with no actual clue of the mechanics of such things. Also people drawing conclusions based on a very small run of games and having memories no longer than 5 minutes.

I think you'd be lying though if you said that a little bit of you wasn't concerned about Pogba based on what we've seen so far.

Hand me something to swear on. I'm not concerned in the slightest.
 
He was much better in the second half in MF. Hasnt been good in the ten channel for a while now.
 
Pogba's performance was mostly infuriating, despite that he should've had two assists. The difference between him being a game changer and what he is now is paper thin.
 
I'm not conveniently forgetting anything, his price tag doesn't make him a cyborg, Messi and Ronaldo miss plenty of chances too, would they also not be worth that kind of money?

He's a kid, anyone expecting him to bury everything and that all his touches turn to gold are kidding themselves, this isn't Fifa. There isn't a single player in world football that sinks every shot they take, let alone one that isn't naturally a finisher from close distance and still learning.

I don't expect him to bury everything, but I will criticise him for missing big chances which he should be scoring. He was utter crap first half too
 
For €100m he has to grab a game like tonight by the scruff of the neck and make things happen. Enough of the silly haircuts, emogies and videos. Get it right on the pitch first, only then concentrate on the other crap.
 
I'm not conveniently forgetting anything, his price tag doesn't make him a cyborg, Messi and Ronaldo miss plenty of chances too, would they also not be worth that kind of money?

He's a kid, anyone expecting him to bury everything and that all his touches turn to gold are kidding themselves, this isn't Fifa. There isn't a single player in world football that sinks every shot they take, let alone one that isn't naturally a finisher from close distance and still learning.

He's a central midfielder, his job is to get us ticking and be our creative force. He wasn't bought to score 20 goals a season, had our team been more fluent and finished even half the chances he's created for us this season we'd be much, much better off, that's for sure.

People trying to get the head of a player who can do things others in our squad can't even dream of, baffling.
I haven't seen much of him at Juve but I thought scoring was one of his strengths, that part of his game has been underwhelming to say the least.
 
No the unmitigated bollocks is idiots moaning about social media or haircuts or citing transfer fees with no actual clue of the mechanics of such things. Also people drawing conclusions based on a very small run of games and having memories no longer than 5 minutes.



Hand me something to swear on. I'm not concerned in the slightest.

Social media sure, but transfer fees quite clearly are relevant and as much as you'd like to talk about marketability or whatever the fundamentally most important thing is what happens on the pitch. We're a football team not a marketing agency, and I think Mourinho would find the suggestion we bought him for anything other than his footballing ability absolutely laughable.

I think there's a huge amount to worry about with Pogba. He looks miles away from the finished article, his run of good performances have largely been the exception, he seems to only be able to play in one position (and even then only with a babysitter), he drifts in and out of games, he struggles in the big games and he struggles to impose himself.

He's obviously not a write off, and anyone saying otherwise should give their head a wobble, but he clearly hasn't made the initial impact expected of him (as the 'world's best midfielder' according to Mourinho).
 
I haven't seen much of him at Juve but I thought scoring was one of his strengths, that part of his game has been underwhelming to say the least.

Scoring screamers from distance, yes, but he's never been a clinical close-range finisher, he's always been more of a creator than he has been a finisher. I don't know the stats to be honest, but I'm pretty sure he's never scored over 10 goals in the league for Juve, anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Not mentioning things that might be turning his head, he's been total garbage for a few games now!
 
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