JaffyJoe
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What about Coentrao, he barely gets a game at Madrid, he's 25 and would cost less than Baines?
We need to bench Evra now to show that everybody is treated the same. Give Fabio the game-time for a couple of games now as Evra needs rest as well.
If that ever happens, we'll have to be content with Buttner playing LB.
Why so? Fabio has had a wonderful loan-spell in QPR and did very well when he got the chance here too. He doesn't offer the width and simplicity that Evra/Buttner does but he is much better with the ball at his feet and at defending.
Why so? Fabio has had a wonderful loan-spell in QPR and did very well when he got the chance here too. He doesn't offer the width and simplicity that Evra/Buttner does but he is much better with the ball at his feet and at defending.
never kicked on when he got here though. Good point about the crossing but i would say Baines is a better crosser than Evra so maybe we would get a few more chances there
Wonderful ?
We're all as perplexed as you are. Ask the gaffe as Fabio is hardly getting a look in at the moment.
Also, I don't think his loan spell was quite "wonderful". Was ok, but could have gone better IMO.
A player known for his offensive qualities and lacking defensive ones went to a bottom side that had to defend pretty much nonstop all games and he did good there. I think that is a wonderful loan spell for that situation and from watching his QPR games he improved massively from his first matches there until the latter ones.
Fabio is in my opinion better than Rafael defensively, technically and possession wise, whereas Rafael has a better engine/drive and ability to provide width. I think Moyes prefers this width/engine which is why he uses Buttner who has a good engine/bad defense/good crosses.
I think under the circumstances that he went there to improve his defense, which he clearly did over the course of his loan-spell it was great.
Did he play great? No far from it. But his best skills is offensive ones and he had no chance of using them a lot. In United he would be able to use his best assets, the offense, as well as the newly learnt defensive soundness.
Sorry bud, my memory might be playing tricks on me but was Fabio even the regular LB there, aside from a few games?
Yeah, or even played in LM IIRC. Unless our memories have gone to shitThere were plenty of matches he was on the bench IIRC.
Sorry bud, my memory might be playing tricks on me but was Fabio even the regular LB there, aside from a few games?
He got 23 games which is pretty good for a young back-up player in a premier league environment that is meant to help his weak sides rather than his good ones. I am sure if he played for a middle side team who used more offensive wing-backs he would be starting regularly.
He has had one less game for QPR than he has in his entire United career. So expecting him to go from starting 6 games a year to 23 must be considered a wonderful loan-spell?
23 games is much more than I expected tbh. Wiki has it down as 15 with 8 sub appearances. Still not that bad. For some reason I thought he started less than 10 matches. The feedback from his loan spell was "meh" IIRC. He did well, but not wonderfully well.
The matches I watched of his, he was often pushed up to LM as well. But there were certainly certain matches I read here on the Caf in which he did perform very well. It's just as you metioned, the team he was playing in was in total disarray.
with that spell - people can see him get a chance to start for us. I bet for Fabio himself that was all he could ever ask for.
It's weird though. Buttner's been preferred over him at LB all season.
I'd love for Fabio to be given a run out.
I think it is Moyes preference for wing-backs who provide mainly width and crosses. He is not interested at all so far in a wing-back who will be part of the possession-play like Rafael/Fabio do. Rafa/Fabio are very similar in style to Alaba/Lahm and Moyes want the Baines type of wing-back.
You could be correct, though the crosses into the box hasn't done anything except stifle our play and suit our opponent CB's to the tee tbh .
Well here's hoping Fabio gets a run, if Evra doesn't start. Shakthar aren't the most physical of sides IIRC, so Rafael/Fabio on the fullbacks could be a option, though atm I doubt one Moyes would try and explore.
Yeah don't get me wrong I hate the way we currently play. I think Fabio/Rafael would help us tremendously in possession if we let them. They have the engines, passing, dribbling and technical ability to help us where we have problems. I think we would improve our defense as they wouldn't need to push up to the goal-lines to be able to help out massively in the offense.
He must be a completely shit trainer not to outdo Buttner though
The only one of our players that had an outright poor match. Could do with a rest.
Yes! I love him but he was woeful and he had his 'Gary Neville' performance today when you'd hope he takes a long hard look at himself and realises that he either improves or retires/steps down a level! What a shame!Pretty much the only negative of today. Was dreadful... spending £15-20 million on Baines doesn't seem so bad at this point in time...