Best day of my life as a Pakistani. I can't believe I am seeing this in my lifetime. PTI well on their way to a win now. Not surprised, a lot of youth who couldn't vote last time voted now.
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Yeah, I am supposed to be doing a dissertation due end of this month. Have been following the news the whole day
Same, I have a lot of work tommorow but here I amYeah, I am supposed to be doing a dissertation due end of this month. Have been following the news the whole day
Same, I have a lot of work tommorow but here I am
So happy to see nawaz lose, was worried it would be a repeat of the last elections. Now hoping the lead is big enough that PTI does not need a coalition.
So why are all of you pakistanis pissing yourselves silly over this result ? What is he going to deliver according to you ?
It's not PPP, it's not Sharif and it's not a military dictatorship. So all good.
The military hasn't been ruling directly for quite a few years now, i believe the current status quo regarding the power sharing between the civilian govt and military should continue.
Isnt part of the status quo and isnt corrupt for once, if he can remove corruption that will make a significant difference. His policies have been economically correct and for the people as well.
Why is that?
Why would the military willingly concede its power without a fight ?
No but you believe it should continue, its not about whether it will continue or not. Was wondering what were the reasons behind that should.
I meant to say that it would continue, I did not mean to say it should continue.
Ahh that makes more sense.
Does this mean Imran Khan is set to be next PM?
Yes.
Nawaz, the guy who was a minister under Zia (the worst dictator of our history and the man single handedly responsible for the extreme element in our society), then took ISI money to overthrow Benazir (and was convicted in it), then overthrew another Benazir government in 1995 (which he admitted later on). His daughter married an army captain (who btw encourages the most vile bigotry against our minorities) and in 2013 he rigged it with Kayani, the most corrupt Army chief of Pakistan since Zia. Yeah, he is the anti-establishment guy as much as Farage is a working class man. That's why he has ruled 35 years out of 70 years of our history in Punjab.
He was convicted because he is a thief. He could not explain how his teenage kids bought flats worth £7 million in London. He changed his story four times, first saying he got the money from his steel mill but how? The mill was insolvent. Then he said oh no I sold another mill. Then he said nah some Qatari prince gave me the money. No receipts, nothing. The one receipt they gave was forged, as tested by British firms.
Scum and vermin in jail. Absolutely deserved.
Glad to see PTI win, one of the best days as a Pakistani and something which none of us could believe that we will see.
The fact PPP call him Taliban Khan, while Nawaz's party calls him a Jewish agent should tell people a lot about his opponents. As a person can't be both.
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For the guys celebrating here: why is Imran better than the options? Corruption or any other policies?
He is not corrupt. They even told him to prove his earnings were legitimate from 1975 which he did. He built two world-class cancer hospitals all on donations and his own hard work. He has ruled KPK and has done a lot of good. KPK for the first time in its history has selected a party twice in a row. Which is even more amazing as he has won twice against the resident Pakthun party.
PMLN and PPP have ruled us for decades, have colluded with the army esp the former who was made and nurtured by Zia. They have looted and destroyed the nation. I am sick of them and am glad they're gone.
From the jubilation and the expectation, it looks a similar scenario as when Modi was elected in India in 2014, when people were desperate to see the back of Congress.
By the way, don't really see Indian media crying as some people think. Not sure why they would, but a rhetoric is a rhetoric.
By the way, don't really see Indian media crying as some people think. Not sure why they would, but a rhetoric is a rhetoric.
Isn't Imran seen as the army's choice against the PMLN this time, or did I misread stuff? And has Zardari's corruption from 2008-13 permanently damaged the PPP?
I have watched a lot of videos online, they have called him some pretty derogatory things. But I don't care to be honest. I am just glad to see the back of corrupt looters who have ruined our nation. PMLN have ruled Punjab for 35 years and done absolutely nothing. I am a Punjabi, not only have they ruined Punjab but alienated other provinces as well.
The army's choice was almost always PMLN. From when Zia had Nawaz work as his minister to when Kayani colluded with Nawaz in 2013 and to when Raheel Sharif routinely saved Nawaz's government. Even now Maryam Nawaz's FIL is the DG ISI. He has lost because of Panama. I explained it above.
As for PPP they are only restricted to Sindh. First reason is a lot of PPP supporters despise Zardari. The second is they simply can't be arsed with Punjab and are happy with the gravy train in Sindh. And the third is rampant corruption.
No corruption, his policies are economically friendly and actually benefit the province rather than lining up his pockets. Read up on what he did in KPK. KPK never re-elects the same people twice but they have done so with him, which shows the work he has done.
The policy he enacts are actually ones which benefits the nation rather than building stuff just to line up his own pockets and because it looks good in pictures,etc. Another good thing about his party being elected is that the duopoly of PML-N and PPP has been broken. These parties now know that if they want to stay in government, they need to serve the nation as well as lining up their own pockets.
The one thing which I dont like and I am hoping was an election tactic is his love for molvis.
I think thankfully he will not need to involve the molvis. KPK he has won the majority. And the center he will easily take with independents. Punjab right now almost tied at 124-126. Punjab is a must win for PTI, that will obliterate PMLN.
The indian media and even the economist have posted an article recently about him which was pretty biased, describing nawaz being disqualified over a 'minor' incident.
For the young and educated people this is huge, we have been waiting for him to come to power for years. Should have won it last year but corruption.
Sounds a bit like AAP
waits for anti-Kejri brigade
waits for anti-Kejri brigade
Sounds a bit like AAP
waits for anti-Kejri brigade
I heard from an Indian mate that AAP is done?
Yeah thats what I am hoping for, let him win with a standalone majority so he has no incentive to get involve with molvis. Thats a must!
Sounds a bit like AAP
waits for anti-Kejri brigade
From the little I know of that party, maybe yes.
@Wengerscoat No chance in hell he get elected but you should read up about Jibran Nasir.
I have! I quite like him, though he is taking a lot of risks with the molvis. I fear for the poor guy's life.
Yes, not much chance of re-election. But I'm not from Delhi and don't have friends there so I can't be sure.
@crappycraperson is from there and is much less fond of them IIRC.
Don't see why. I haven't read or seen anything that connects AAP to corrupt or sectarian policies. Obviously I'm just a peripheral observer to Indian politics so if there is any other news then please share.
Ah okay. I don't follow Indian politics. I have an Indian friend from UP and he supports BJP and hates Congress. And one from Chennai and he hates BJP and Congress both, to be fair I don't think he likes any party. But both of them don't take AAP seriously as a national force. That's my limit of the know-how of Indian politics.
Yeah while I respect his stance, specially regarding Ahmedi, I do think he is going to get himself killed.
I know, I watched a few videos where he was cornered and heckled. Though he almost cost PTI the seat
as his votebank divided PTI's.I know, I watched a few videos where he was cornered and heckled. Though he almost cost PTI the seat
I wouldnt have minded him winning his seat and being part of the government. Was actually disappointed he lost, need more ppl like him.
Ah okay. I don't follow Indian politics. I have an Indian friend from UP and he supports BJP and hates Congress. And one from Chennai and he hates BJP and Congress both, to be fair I don't think he likes any party. But both of them don't take AAP seriously as a national force. That's my limit of the know-how of Indian politics.
AAP runs the state govt in Delhi with a massive majority (67/70) and is struggling outside that (they have a few seats in Punjab and that's it). T Hey are not a national force, but some of their achievements as a state govt which I read about sounded similar to how you described PTI.
https://www.thequint.com/videos/news-videos/mohalla-clinics-of-aam-aadmi-party-successful
https://www.business-standard.com/a...in-delhi-two-years-of-aap-117021200305_1.html
http://www.dnaindia.com/delhi/repor...ked-fees-after-aap-government-s-order-2615563
I don't think they will be re-elected despite that because Kejriwal isn't a great politician and keeps getting in endless unwinnable fights with the Central govt.
Our media and politicians, including Imran Khan, regularly praise India for its democracy. But I get surprised that dynasty politics in the shape of Congress are still alive in India. But then again they are getting beaten badly in the last elections!
What's Imran Khan's position on the Ahmadi problem?
His views have been the same as maulvis and clerics on almost everything but I am hoping it was just a ploy to gain votes. As his personal life and his views during the elections are a bit contradictory.For that to happen, he does need to win enough seats that he can form a government without the Islamist parties though.
He also lost the last elections by not playing it 'smart' and corruption but this election he has shown himself to be more willing to play politics.
That's a shame...