Pakistan

Dumbstar said:
Don't bother reading the thread, I just saw this from him:

"The decision to lower prices (by Imran Khan) was purely political, to gain public support, and perhaps more importantly set a minefield for the incoming PMLN government"

He's a Trumper. A bullshit artist.
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Being critical of Imran Khan makes him a “Trumper”? You know he worked for the Imran Khan government?
 
2cents said:
Being critical of Imran Khan makes him a “Trumper”? You know he worked for the Imran Khan government?
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Probably one of the ones that gleefully stabbed him in the back when it came to that dodgy vote of no confidence with a massive external influence. 'Incoming Noon government' my arse. It was a farce.
 
Dumbstar said:
Probably one of the ones that gleefully stabbed him in the back when it came to that dodgy vote of no confidence with a massive external influence. 'Incoming Noon government' my arse. It was a farce.
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No, Khan appointed him to the Economic Advisory Council and a week later he was forced off it due to being Ahmadi. Was discussed in this thread at the time.
 
Prominent defense analyst and former Pakistani military officer Haider Mehdi has vociferously claimed that Army Chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa colluded with US authorities to topple the Imran Khan government on 9 April.

While much of the Pakistani masses and social media seem to think the same, the state’s mainstream media outlets have largely stayed mum on the biggest political scandal the country has witnessed in years.

Many who criticized the role of Pakistan’s military in the alleged coup – even without naming the collaborating officers specifically – have already fled the country. Some have been arrested, while others are facing legal charges.

One of the more notable and emotionally-charged cases has been that of Dr. Shahbaz Gill, a Pakistani-American academic and a close member of Imran Khan’s media team. Gill was charged with sedition against the state for making the argument on ARY News Network (a mainstream channel which was immediately shut down afterward) that military officers should not obey unlawful commands from their superiors.

Various senior military officers have already explained that Gill’s remarks are no serious offense because all military officers are already under oath to not obey unlawful commands by their superiors.

Gill was apprehended by authorities on 9 August and reportedly remained in federal government custody until his deteriorating medical condition forced his jailers to move him to a state hospital.

Khan said that he had been fooled by the very same state medical facility back in 2019 when courts were persuaded to allow former PM Nawaz Sharif to travel to the UK for urgent medical treatment, from which he never returned. Khan insisted on checking on Gill’s status himself, but was denied entry to the hospital.

According to the leadership of Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party, Gill was apprehended without an arrest warrant, tortured, and sexually assaulted.

Under Pakistan’s Code of Criminal Procedure (CrCP), the maximum period of detention is 14 days – which for Gill would be today, 23 August – except for “terrorism specific cases,” in which custody can be extended for up to 90 days.

“The disparity in the period of detention under the CrPC and the ATA [Anti-Terrorism Act] is one of the many contributory factors of the high number of superfluous cases in the anti-terrorism courts of Pakistan, since the ATA gives more time to the police to complete investigation while detaining the accused,” writes the Research Society of International Law in its report on Pakistan.

Is Imran Khan next?
Which brings us to news of the arrest warrant on “terrorism” charges issued against Imran Khan himself.

The highly controversial charge against Khan, under section 7 of Pakistan’s Anti-Terrorism Act, followed Saturday’s mass rally in support of Gill. During his speech, Khan vowed to bring lawsuits against police and judicial authorities for their roles in Gill’s alleged torture: “We will not spare you … We will sue you,” he threatened.

The accusation appear frivolous to the extreme, especially when the prosecuting government’s cabinet is overwhelmingly composed of well-known indicted criminals and repeat offenders on charges that range from corruption to murder.

But government officials defended the “terrorism” charges against Khan, saying he “spread terror amongst the police and the judiciary” and hindered their work.

Pakistan’s ATA has come under fire by domestic lawyers as well as overseas organizations. It’s definitions are too broad, its powers too aggressive, its authorities too dangerous
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on potential arrest of imran khan. would be disastrous for pakistan. only just reelected and widely considered on track to sweep general elections
 
neverdie said:
on potential arrest of imran khan. would be disastrous for pakistan. only just reelected and widely considered on track to sweep general elections
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Wish Pakistan would just cut ties with the Americans, same corrupt people supported but the same corrupt superpower.
 
2mufc0 said:
Wish Pakistan would just cut ties with the Americans, same corrupt people supported but the same corrupt superpower.
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On 21 August, the PTI beat their opposing 13-party alliance with a decisive margin in Karachi’s by-election. Imran Khan has essentially already gone to the polls and won, because these massive election margins are taking place on the opposition’s own home ground.
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it's this part that fuels the prosecution imo. after the dissolution of parliament, khan came back and swept the by-election in what was basically a personal reelection. which points to him being reelected again at next cycle. not sure if arresting him will work. look at lula in brazil. he's going to sweep the presidential elections unless a state coup is put in play. same will be true of khan. most popular pakistani leader in generations.

but yeah pakistan has systemic problems. those installed were living in london at the time as you might know and were under investigation for all kinds of crimes. the government now is made up of literal criminals.
 
neverdie said:
it's this part that fuels the prosecution imo. after the dissolution of parliament, khan came back and swept the by-election in what was basically a personal reelection. which points to him being reelected again at next cycle. not sure if arresting him will work. look at lula in brazil. he's going to sweep the presidential elections unless a state coup is put in play. same will be true of khan. most popular pakistani leader in generations.

but yeah pakistan has systemic problems. those installed were living in london at the time as you might know and were under investigation for all kinds of crimes. the government now is made up of literal criminals.
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It's truly scandalous, the Americans would never put up with such criminals in their own office but have no issue propping them up in Pakistan. But the whole system in Pakistan needs a complete overhaul otherwise it will never come out of a failed state status.
 
2mufc0 said:
It's truly scandalous, the Americans would never put up with such criminals in their own office but have no issue propping them up in Pakistan. But the whole system in Pakistan needs a complete overhaul otherwise it will never come out of a failed state status.
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It's said that in other countries the State has an army. Only in Pakistan does the army has a State.
 
Some awful scenes emerging from these floods

 
Reading more about the Pakistan flooding, how 1/3 of the country is under water. For context, the area of Pakistan is 790,000km2, so the area flooded is ~265km2.

The area of England is 130,000km2!

So an area TWICE the size of England is underwater due to unprecedented flooding. I wonder what the climate change deniers will say about this.
 
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Jericholyte2 said:
Reading more about the Pakistan flooding, how 1/3 of the country is under water. For context, the area of Pakistan is 790,000km2, so the area flooded is ~265km2.

The area of England is 130,000km2!

So an area TWICE the size of England is underwater due to unprecedented flooding. I wonder what the deniers will say about this.
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Who is denying reports about flooding?
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Reading more about the Pakistan flooding, how 1/3 of the country is under water. For context, the area of Pakistan is 790,000km2, so the area flooded is ~265km2.

The area of England is 130,000km2!

So an area TWICE the size of England is underwater due to unprecedented flooding. I wonder what the climate change deniers will say about this.
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Not a climate change denier by any means but with the Pakistan situation there is more to it.

India and dams being the main issues.

Pakistan needed dams but successive govts haven't built them. India has and there is a sense of them causing some of the issues in Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Edit: not blaming India for the floods in Pakistan. Just wish the countries would work together to resolve some of the issues killing loads every year
 
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Millions of people need urgent help in Pakistan. Devastating floods have killed over a thousand people and left more than 6 million in desperate need, with conditions expected to worsen as rains continue.
Floods have destroyed and badly damaged more than a million homes in Pakistan, sweeping away entire communities, livelihoods, crops, schools and roads. With a third of the country estimated to be under water - an area the size of the UK - people urgently need food, clean drinking water and shelter.
DEC charities are working directly or through local partners to help save lives, providing food, temporary shelter, medical aid, clean water and sanitation to prevent the spread of waterborne diseases. But with 2 million acres of crops and 794,000 livestock already lost, funds are urgently needed to reach more people.

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Wait is the 1/3 reports really true or do they mean like 1/3 of the population which would still be huge, something doesn't sound right.
 
Will be interesting to see where it goes from here. The struggle must continue, it's us or the establishment, Pakistan cannot belong to both.
 
Zlatattack said:
Will be interesting to see where it goes from here. The struggle must continue, it's us or the establishment, Pakistan cannot belong to both.
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Yeah but since the Sharifs are back in power theres not much thats going to change. Same old Pak, corrupt leaders who have stolen billions out of the country get to swan about like they are the Kardashians.
 
The Sharif's and the now totally corrupted army are going about shooting people with impunity. Before we always had the army to save us. Now we're totally fecked.
 
Thankfully the injuries don't appear to be serious.

Its going to kick off big time tonight outside Sharif's residence in London. The scumbags daughter (Maryam) is in the area as well.
 
I love how the headline on the guardian article has assassination attempt in quotation marks, I guess it's still disputed if someone was trying to kill Imran Khan or was firing guns in celebration and mistakenly pointed towards him :lol:
 
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hasanejaz88 said:
I love how the headline on the guardian article has assassination attempt in quotation marks, I guess it's still disputed if someone was trying to kill Imran Khan or was firing guns in celebration and mistakenly pointed them towards him :lol:
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I was tempted to check what the BBC site was going to say as well. But I'm not going to give them my hit. Strictly sticking to Al Jazeera.
 
Not in the know with regards to Pakistani politics but whats with them constantly trying to off political figures?
 
Adisa said:
Not in the know with regards to Pakistani politics but whats with them constantly trying to off political figures?
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It’s the same in Pakistan or wherever around the globe. A man standing for change and progression of the country, thinking of the nation and not his own back pocket. A voice for the people, and what have you. The people who have been stealing from the country for decades won’t allow it hence the assassination attempt.
 
Its most likely a ploy to gain sympathy. The assassins in Pakistan usually get their target if they really want to.
 
ThatsGreat said:
Its most likely a ploy to gain sympathy. The assassins in Pakistan usually get their target if they really want to.
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Keep believing the rubbish they feed us all. The whole professional armed forces stuff has been exposed.

14 people were injured one was killed. His 3 kids were stood trying to wake up thier dead dad.


People like you think it's a ploy.

The Pakistani armed forces have done more damage to Pakistan than any enemy of Pakistan. They own the country and operate it as thier personal fiefdom.
 
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Zlatattack said:
Keep believing the rubbish they feed us all. The whole professional armed forces stuff has been exposed.

14 people were injured one was killed. His 3 kids were stood trying to wake up thier dead dad.


People like you think it's a ploy.

The Pakistani armed forces have done more damage to Pakistan than any enemy of Pakistan. They own the country and operate it as thier personal fiefdom.
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The feck? I'm not pro armed forces or anything, don't have any horse in this game. Just pointing out that if a political leadership is targeted for elimination, then they usually succeed. Its not like Imran Khan is being provided extra security or anything, from the current government.
 
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everyone knows the sharif clan are utterly corrupt, living billionaire lifestyles on the back of the Pak people, and yet a significant chunk of the people still think they are the saviours of Pakistan. madness. but then again, we have the toffs in charge here propped up by the working classes, and the trump crowd in the states by the christians....
 
More than 70 killed in multiple armed attacks in Pakistan’s Balochistan
The Balochistan Liberation Army claims at least one of the attacks, with past similar incidents staged by them.

Balochistan province has had a simmering rebellion for years, with several armed groups present. Rights groups have denounced Pakistan’s response to the movement, which they document as including enforced disappearances and other forms of state repression.
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