Pakistan vs England (in UAE) 2012

Can't believe they stuck with Morgan, he's useless at this level. Feel sorry for Bopara, the knives would be out if he was playing as badly as Morgan has.
 
15 wickets and 8 overs still left in the day.

I can't believe this series...not because England are getting their arses handed to them, but because of how dominant the bowlers have been throughout the series. Definitely not the flat 600+run pitches most predicted.
 
15 wickets and 8 overs still left in the day.

I can't believe this series...not because England are getting their arses handed to them, but because of how dominant the bowlers have been throughout the series. Definitely not the flat 600+run pitches most predicted.

That's the thing - the English bowlers have been superb. We ended up with a first innings lead in the last Test. The top 6 have been hopeless.
 
That's the thing - the English bowlers have been superb. We ended up with a first innings lead in the last Test. The top 6 have been hopeless.

Indeed. Both teams have retarded batting line ups...I think a lot of the spasticatedness is down to DRS, they're too scared to pad up. Great for the game mind...about time we had more of a balance.
 
That's the thing - the English bowlers have been superb. We ended up with a first innings lead in the last Test. The top 6 have been hopeless.

Yup, spinners and pacemen(Broad & Anderson) have stood up, and not shirked their responsibilities - but your batsmen....shambolic, playing like Bangladesh basically.
 
Wait I don't get why England've sent a nightwatchmen. You do this to protect the top order, but a nightwatchmen to protect your no.8 batsmen?
Strange.
 
If Strauss can carry the bat, England have a chance of having an ok-ish lead.
 
203/16 today, excellent day for the bowlers.
 
If England eek a lead of about 60-70 runs it'll be a very tough match for the Pakistanis.
 
But England are batting last, All Pakistan need is to get a lead of 140, and England will crash and burn again.

Yeah this is how I imagine the game will pan out to be honest. England's middle order is just too brittle.
 
Not that it was ever likely with these two teams, but a draw is out of the question now.

Like my mate just observed, DRS is messing with batsmen's heads. Pakistan were always sh*t in the dept so not really affecting them. Its teams with decent batsmen that are being affected the worst.
 
Why the change of umpires? Taufel has always been a an average umpire but it seems he has been ultra conservative with his lbw decisions at times.

So which you think is harder? Ref a football game or umpire a match?
 
Just realised i've become a glory hunter cricket wise.

Couldn't be arsed getting up early for this test as the series has gone.

:(
 
Why the change of umpires? Taufel has always been a an average umpire but it seems he has been ultra conservative with his lbw decisions at times.

So which you think is harder? Ref a football game or umpire a match?

I've always liked Taufel, I think he's a good umpire. Worst umpire IMO is billy doctrove.

Much harder to be a referee as players crowd around you, much less respect, incidents off the ball, hostile atmosphere and you get little/no help from the linesmen. Umpires can make mistakes but DRS can rectify the shocking decisions.
 
Just saw how Broad was given out, unbelievable IMO. With such a long stride and him being tall, he shouldn't have been given out IMO. If the BCCI Apply the DRS, Pretty sure no-one will be able to beat India in India. Ashwin and Ojha are both very good spinners.
 
Pakistan 30-2. They still 12 down on our first innings. This game will be over by tomorrow. England win. We won't collapse again in another run chase.
 
Pakistan 30-2. They still 12 down on our first innings. This game will be over by tomorrow. England win. We won't collapse again in another run chase.

Not sure what you're basing your confidence on, but it certainly isn't on what we've seen in this series. As we know, a lot of top-level sport is played in the mind, and the English players will be pretty worried at having to chase even 100 or 120 after the abysmal collapse in the last test.
 
Pietersen looked more confident and Strauss has some runs. Sure Bell, Morgan, Cook have been flat but in a low scoring game we only need one or two batsmen to get a 50 and we will do it.

The last match was just self induced pressure and we have learned from that.
 
Pietersen looked more confident and Strauss has some runs. Sure Bell, Morgan, Cook have been flat but in a low scoring game we only need one or two batsmen to get a 50 and we will do it.

The last match was just self induced pressure and we have learned from that.

:lol:

Looking tough for England right now. It's really confusing as regards to which team is the best in the world right now, England looked like it before this series, but I'm not sure about it right now.
 
What do you reckon they've learnt playing just the one innings from the previous test?

They will not learn to play against spin but if they can affect their mindset in how they approach the game. Pietersen and Bell were more confident and purposeful. Both didnt have the bit of luck sometimes you need to get a good innings together but overall they seemed better.
 
:lol:

Looking tough for England right now. It's really confusing as regards to which team is the best in the world right now, England looked like it before this series, but I'm not sure about it right now.

England are no1. Get India to play with DRS and then we can discuss. As has been pointed out so many times its absurd the ICC has let India veto and that the cost of the system is picked up by the broadcasters.
 
England are no1. Get India to play with DRS and then we can discuss. As has been pointed out so many times its absurd the ICC has let India veto and that the cost of the system is picked up by the broadcasters.

India aren't even in this discussion of the best teams today, we're 4-5th best right now.

Oh and If DRS happened in India, it'll benefit India more than anyone else. We're the best players of spinners, so it won't affect us at it'll affect anyother team.

You keep on posting in this thread, it makes for a humorous reading, you clearly have no clue on cricket.
 
First time in the series fielding sides heads are down.

Why is Monty bowling around the wicket?
 
India aren't even in this discussion of the best teams today, we're 4-5th best right now.

Oh and If DRS happened in India, it'll benefit India more than anyone else. We're the best players of spinners, so it won't affect us at it'll affect anyother team.

You keep on posting in this thread, it makes for a humorous reading, you clearly have no clue on cricket.

Hahah

Like you do. If DRS was so in favour of Indian spinners then why dont they take it up?

DRS swings it back in the favour of bowlers which is not India strength.

Anyway as to cricket - what you know about it? I think not much. BTW dont confuse my support of England and my understanding of the game - you always fall into these traps with your limited understanding. And there is a lot of kidology going into my posts - something which you wouldnt get.
 
First time in the series fielding sides heads are down.

Why is Monty bowling around the wicket?

Cook and Prior - Pakistan heads were down when they batted well. Its about getting one wicket now and then applying the pressure.
 
Hahah

Like you do. If DRS was so in favour of Indian spinners then why dont they take it up?

DRS swings it back in the favour of bowlers which is not India strength.

Anyway as to cricket - what you know about it? I think not much. BTW dont confuse my support of England and my understanding of the game - you always fall into these traps with your limited understanding. And there is a lot of kidology going into my posts - something which you wouldnt get.

DRS is much more beneficial to Spinners, and Spinners happens to be India's strength. BCCI are morons, that's why they don't apply DRS.

That last paragraph is amazingly laughable btw, just because your predictions haven't worked, it has suddenly turned into "kidology". Moron.
 
DRS is much more beneficial to Spinners, and Spinners happens to be India's strength. BCCI are morons, that's why they don't apply DRS.

That last paragraph is amazingly laughable btw, just because your predictions haven't worked, it has suddenly turned into "kidology". Moron.

Actually he's just admitted in one of his previous posts he doesn't have much understanding of the game. More a supporter of England. Understandable why he's been so wrong.
 
Go feck yoursel KM.

India have the best spinners- lol at that where are they in the worlds rankings?

Sorry Sultan but same to you.

As to predictions - if you cant see that I was overly optimistic then you are thick as shit as I am usually cautious and downbeat re you posted about that in the football forums.
 
Actually he's just admitted in one of his previous posts he doesn't have much understanding of the game. More a supporter of England. Understandable why he's been so wrong.

Go on sherlock.
 
Go feck yoursel KM.

India have the best spinners- lol at that where are they in the worlds rankings?

Sorry Sultan but same to you.

As to predictions - if you cant see that I was overly optimistic then you are thick as shit as I am usually cautious and downbeat re you posted about that in the football forums.

:lol:

I'd change the bolded part to overly simplistic.
 
Go feck yoursel KM.

India have the best spinners- lol at that where are they in the worlds rankings?

Sorry Sultan but same to you.

As to predictions - if you cant see that I was overly optimistic then you are thick as shit as I am usually cautious and downbeat re you posted about that in the football forums.

Where have I said that India have the best spinners, I've said that India's strength is spinners. Anyone who has a clue about cricket, will know this thing.

Your posts have been amusing in this thread btw, keep it on.
 
Go feck yoursel KM.

India have the best spinners- lol at that where are they in the worlds rankings?

Sorry Sultan but same to you.

As to predictions - if you cant see that I was overly optimistic then you are thick as shit as I am usually cautious and downbeat re you posted about that in the football forums.

:lol:

Settle down now, its not worth getting into trouble over this...

I think England have blown it, AGAIN...:mad: