Owen Hargreaves | 2009/10 Performances

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After watching the 45 minutes last night, he seemed very sharp and composed. He got fairly stuck in with the harrassing but didn't see him commit to a tackle. Understandable really.
 
There really isn't a "Canadian" accent per say. Not an overly identifiable one like German or English. Unless he is dropping "aboot" and "eh" there isn't really anything easily distinguishable about a Canadian "accent" and he wasn't from the part of the country that says "aboot" or "eh" it were.

Thank You. "Canadian" accents vary from region to region. The 'aboot' accent is primarily in Eastern Canada.
 
Possibly as a sub, but i would doubt it unless one of Scholes, Carrick, Fletch, or Park were unavailable. More likely on April 11 v Blackburn at OT.

:nono: Rovers are thugs - it'd put him back a couple years going toe to toe with them. Let's have it with a more girly team like Villa or West Ham :D
 
whats the bets he crys off again

i seriously wont believe he is back until he completes a few sets of 90 mins....

all the best OWEN!
 
:nono: Rovers are thugs - it'd put him back a couple years going toe to toe with them. Let's have it with a more girly team like Villa or West Ham :D

The way Hargreaves plays I wouldn't hesitate to put him in against a physical side. At that point I expect it'll be a match fitness issue, as opposed to a bigger-chance-of-getting-injured-again issue.
 
Some sexy little turns in that vid

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Replace Valencia with Hargreaves?

Let's get some perspective here. He's still Owen Hargreaves.

Welcome back to the squad.

Not necessarily, Valencia cant play every game... and by that same token who would you take out of midfield? Hargreaves best games for us have been out wide, whether in an attacking or defending role its always been out wide
 
he looked really good in that vid. quick, stopped and started well, nimble. he's got to be massively relieved. hope he felt good today. he's coming back on at a great time too. not many games left. if he is used in some of the matches he'll have all summer to recoop and keep up his rehab. come on owen! :devil:
 
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Sir Alex Ferguson has told Owen Hargreaves to forget about the World Cup and concentrate solely on Manchester United.

The Manchester United midfielder returned to action after an 18-month absence in a reserve team game against Burnley at Altrincham on Thursday night.

Hargreaves completed 45 minutes of the 2-0 win and whilst it was not the most physical of tests, he did enough to put himself in line for another appearance with the second string against the same opposition at Accrington next week.

Given his previous status as one of the Three Lions' most influential midfield men, it is little wonder talk has immediately turned to Hargreaves' chances of being fully fit before Fabio Capello picks his squad for South Africa.

In fairness to the 29-year-old, he responded in a rather non-committal way, although he did confirm if he made sufficient progress and the call from Capello did come, he would relish the chance to appear on the World Cup stage once more, having been voted England's player of the tournament in 2006.

But Ferguson has quickly stamped on those ambitions.

After spending £18million to lure the midfielder to England from Bayern Munich in 2007 and been rewarded with only 37 appearances before Hargreaves headed to Colorado for surgery on both knees to try and cure a chronic tendinitis problem, Ferguson clearly believes the player's first duty is to his club.

"We deserve some service from out of him," said Ferguson.

"Talk about World Cups? He has been out for a year-and-a-half.

"There is nothing wrong with talking about it but he should be concentrating on playing for Manchester United."

In fact, Ferguson already has a comeback plan in place for a Hargreaves who, although he is not entitled to play any part in the Red Devils' Champions League campaign, could have a major role in the title run-in.

"I am delighted for him," said Ferguson. "He has been out of the game for 18 months, which is very difficult.

"He will need a couple of games more with the reserves.

"After that he should be back in the first-team squad. It is a good one to get at this time of the season."

Although the England star still experiences an element of discomfort from the injury, Ferguson feels he can use the example of skipper Gary Neville - who was sidelined for even longer by a succession of muscular complaints and went on to make a successful return - as proof the battle can be won.

"We had experience of this long interval without playing with Gary Neville," said Ferguson.

"Owen has the advantage of being a younger man. Hopefully now he is back for a continued period."
 
When is the next reserves match? Hopefully this week for him to get another run out.
 
Depending on how his knee was after last Thursday, I'd be inclined to think we may see him for about an hour perhaps to build up his stamina etc. I'd say we are looking mid April before he possibly can be considered for the first team. Just to make sure that he's free, got some match sharpness back, so let's say 3 weeks perhaps........
 
Manchester United midfielder Owen Hargreaves has admitted he may never be pain free despite making his comeback from a long-term injury.

The 29-year-old managed 45 minutes for the reserves last Thursday after 18 months out injured following major operations on both knees.

But the England international said: "I wouldn't say I am pain free and I don't know if I can play through it.

"I am still in the process of getting injections to try to manage the pain."


Hargreaves will feature in another reserve team fixture on Thursday as he nears a first-team return but he concedes that there is a chance he will never be fully clear of the problem.

And renowned Colorado-based surgeon Dr Richard Steadman told the midfielder his knees were in a worse state than he had ever come across in 35 years of practicing.

"My training has improved over the last weeks and that is a very positive sign for me. I believe that it will continue to improve and progress," Hargreaves said.

"It's about training, getting these injections and trying to go forward."

The problematic injury first surfaced during his last season at Bayern Munich before Hargreaves managed to feature in 25 games during his debut Old Trafford campaign in 2007/08.

"My first season at United I had the pain and was able to play through it but basically I shouldn't have been playing," he added.

"In the end, the pain was just too high and I had to have surgery.

"I wouldn't wish it on anyone. There were massive operations, very severe, and a lot of the treatments since have been slightly experimental. You have to try what works."

"It's difficult to describe the pain. It's just pain," Hargreaves continued.

"At least the surgery did it's job because before the operation my tendons obviously weren't in the greatest condition.

"I would like to progress from this point even more. Hopefully I will be fit this season, and going forward I will be able to play another six, seven or eight years.

"Football is a physical game and injuries are part of it. But I could never imagine having one that has impacted on me so much.

"I thought - everyone thought - I would be fit for the start of the season. It didn't materialise.

"It has been a pretty humbling experience and I am sure many people doubted me, but anybody who knows me, knows that what I set my mind to, I get."

Seems like his problem wont just go away. A true test of character, this injury.
 
Really have to admire him. It must be hell to work on the problem day in day out and never know if it can be solved in the end. Hopefully we will see him back for a first team game this season or at least at the start of next. Keep up the spirit.
 
He's still having injections to manage the pain at this stage? Surely he's right back to where he was 2 years ago then.
 
I can't wait for him to get back! He has had to battle such major demons to get back to anything near full fitness, and I'm sure it will keep weighing on his mind even when he starts playing again.

I'm so looking forward to the day when he's named on the subs bench for the first team in a game at OT and comes on with 20 to go. The ovation our fans will give him will be something special, I reckon. Everyone loves a comeback kid!
 
Asked if he could play in the longer term with the pain, Hargreaves, 29, said: “I don’t know. Hopefully it [the injury] will continue to progress and improve. I believe it will. I am still in the process of getting some injections to try to manage the pain. The pain had better go. I have been pretty patient with it, so I’m looking forward to the day I can just explode on the pitch. I would love that.

“It [the pain] is difficult to describe but I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I’ll have to be tougher than ever before. My tendon is significantly better than it was, but there is still a bit of pain.
Just taken this from the Times. It sounds slightly more promising.
 
I am afraid we have to get rid of and cut down our losses if he cannot stay clear of those pain, an injured hargreaves is useless to us.
 
I am afraid we have to get rid of and cut down our losses if he cannot stay clear of those pain, an injured hargreaves is useless to us.

There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. Hargreaves was injured before and needed surgery to fix the injury. He may never be pain free but there are hundreds if not thousands of top level athletes who are never pain free. If it is just a matter of him playing through the pain and getting injections to manage it then that is fine.
 
There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. Hargreaves was injured before and needed surgery to fix the injury. He may never be pain free but there are hundreds if not thousands of top level athletes who are never pain free. If it is just a matter of him playing through the pain and getting injections to manage it then that is fine.

Of course, Paul McGrath being a great example
 
Tendonitis doesn't go away, it is something he will have to manage, and I'd be fairly certain it'll cut short his career.
 
He's not exactly injured, he's still healing. The pain will be caused by flair ups that will always occur but its possible to work with. The problem for him after the Liverpool game was that his knees were completely fecked. Right now they're sore, but not fecked.


It's a good sign :)
 
:nono: Rovers are thugs - it'd put him back a couple years going toe to toe with them. Let's have it with a more girly team like Villa or West Ham :D

It's tendinitis, it won't get better or worse playing against a physical team. It's whether his knees can take the running, turning and training that's the question. From what I've read about Hargreaves' injury it's pretty much the same thing I had (and still have after surgery twice) when I was playing football, and you can't tackle it worse, thankfully.
 
It's tendinitis, it won't get better or worse playing against a physical team. It's whether his knees can take the running, turning and training that's the question. From what I've read about Hargreaves' injury it's pretty much the same thing I had (and still have after surgery twice) when I was playing football, and you can't tackle it worse, thankfully.

Probably unaware of the nature of the injury, but to expand his arguement is it not right to say scary hatchetmen = more running?
 
Still in pain. Don't like the sounds of that to be honest.

No real point in playing if you're going to bugger your knees. He's still a young man, and there's the rest of life to consider as well. If after 18 months and major surgery the best the doc can tell you is that you'll have to manage your pain then it's probably time to think about a new career, cause playing as a combative midfielder in the worlds strongest and toughest league isn't going to do your body any favors.
 
Really have to admire him. It must be hell to work on the problem day in day out and never know if it can be solved in the end. Hopefully we will see him back for a first team game this season or at least at the start of next. Keep up the spirit.

I know. It's amazing how hard he's kept at it. If I had to go 18 months without doin what I love, and be in excruciating pain throughout, then I'd go mental
 
There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. Hargreaves was injured before and needed surgery to fix the injury. He may never be pain free but there are hundreds if not thousands of top level athletes who are never pain free. If it is just a matter of him playing through the pain and getting injections to manage it then that is fine.

Spot on Nucks. Doesn't Rafael Nadal have exactly the same problem? he may pull out of the occasional tennis tournament but aside from that he seems to play with it just fine, and by "just fine" I mean 3 hours matches running around, chasing down every ball in a way no-one else on a tennis court ever has.

We've got a couple of lads on our team who've had cruciate surgery in the past, they are always in for a couple of painful days after matches. As you said, for Owen Hargreaves it'll just be a case of managing that pain from now on in.
 
Spot on Nucks. Doesn't Rafael Nadal have exactly the same problem? he may pull out of the occasional tennis tournament but aside from that he seems to play with it just fine, and by "just fine" I mean 3 hours matches running around, chasing down every ball in a way no-one else on a tennis court ever has.

We've got a couple of lads on our team who've had cruciate surgery in the past, they are always in for a couple of painful days after matches. As you said, for Owen Hargreaves it'll just be a case of managing that pain from now on in.

Wasn't Solskjaer one?
 
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