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After watching the 45 minutes last night, he seemed very sharp and composed. He got fairly stuck in with the harrassing but didn't see him commit to a tackle. Understandable really.
There really isn't a "Canadian" accent per say. Not an overly identifiable one like German or English. Unless he is dropping "aboot" and "eh" there isn't really anything easily distinguishable about a Canadian "accent" and he wasn't from the part of the country that says "aboot" or "eh" it were.
Possibly as a sub, but i would doubt it unless one of Scholes, Carrick, Fletch, or Park were unavailable. More likely on April 11 v Blackburn at OT.
Rovers are thugs - it'd put him back a couple years going toe to toe with them. Let's have it with a more girly team like Villa or West Ham
Possibly as a sub, but i would doubt it unless one of Scholes, Carrick, Fletch, or Park were unavailable. More likely on April 11 v Blackburn at OT.
The Blackburn game is at Ewood Park.
Replace Valencia with Hargreaves?
Let's get some perspective here. He's still Owen Hargreaves.
Welcome back to the squad.
Thursday, against Burnley again.
Thursday, against Burnley again.
Manchester United midfielder Owen Hargreaves has admitted he may never be pain free despite making his comeback from a long-term injury.
The 29-year-old managed 45 minutes for the reserves last Thursday after 18 months out injured following major operations on both knees.
But the England international said: "I wouldn't say I am pain free and I don't know if I can play through it.
"I am still in the process of getting injections to try to manage the pain."
Hargreaves will feature in another reserve team fixture on Thursday as he nears a first-team return but he concedes that there is a chance he will never be fully clear of the problem.
And renowned Colorado-based surgeon Dr Richard Steadman told the midfielder his knees were in a worse state than he had ever come across in 35 years of practicing.
"My training has improved over the last weeks and that is a very positive sign for me. I believe that it will continue to improve and progress," Hargreaves said.
"It's about training, getting these injections and trying to go forward."
The problematic injury first surfaced during his last season at Bayern Munich before Hargreaves managed to feature in 25 games during his debut Old Trafford campaign in 2007/08.
"My first season at United I had the pain and was able to play through it but basically I shouldn't have been playing," he added.
"In the end, the pain was just too high and I had to have surgery.
"I wouldn't wish it on anyone. There were massive operations, very severe, and a lot of the treatments since have been slightly experimental. You have to try what works."
"It's difficult to describe the pain. It's just pain," Hargreaves continued.
"At least the surgery did it's job because before the operation my tendons obviously weren't in the greatest condition.
"I would like to progress from this point even more. Hopefully I will be fit this season, and going forward I will be able to play another six, seven or eight years.
"Football is a physical game and injuries are part of it. But I could never imagine having one that has impacted on me so much.
"I thought - everyone thought - I would be fit for the start of the season. It didn't materialise.
"It has been a pretty humbling experience and I am sure many people doubted me, but anybody who knows me, knows that what I set my mind to, I get."
Oh dear, poor Owen."I wouldn't say I am pain free and I don't know if I can play through it.
"I am still in the process of getting injections to try to manage the pain."
Just taken this from the Times. It sounds slightly more promising.Asked if he could play in the longer term with the pain, Hargreaves, 29, said: “I don’t know. Hopefully it [the injury] will continue to progress and improve. I believe it will. I am still in the process of getting some injections to try to manage the pain. The pain had better go. I have been pretty patient with it, so I’m looking forward to the day I can just explode on the pitch. I would love that.
“It [the pain] is difficult to describe but I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. I’ll have to be tougher than ever before. My tendon is significantly better than it was, but there is still a bit of pain.
Rovers are thugs - it'd put him back a couple years going toe to toe with them. Let's have it with a more girly team like Villa or West Ham
I am afraid we have to get rid of and cut down our losses if he cannot stay clear of those pain, an injured hargreaves is useless to us.
There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. Hargreaves was injured before and needed surgery to fix the injury. He may never be pain free but there are hundreds if not thousands of top level athletes who are never pain free. If it is just a matter of him playing through the pain and getting injections to manage it then that is fine.
Rovers are thugs - it'd put him back a couple years going toe to toe with them. Let's have it with a more girly team like Villa or West Ham
It's tendinitis, it won't get better or worse playing against a physical team. It's whether his knees can take the running, turning and training that's the question. From what I've read about Hargreaves' injury it's pretty much the same thing I had (and still have after surgery twice) when I was playing football, and you can't tackle it worse, thankfully.
Really have to admire him. It must be hell to work on the problem day in day out and never know if it can be solved in the end. Hopefully we will see him back for a first team game this season or at least at the start of next. Keep up the spirit.
There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. Hargreaves was injured before and needed surgery to fix the injury. He may never be pain free but there are hundreds if not thousands of top level athletes who are never pain free. If it is just a matter of him playing through the pain and getting injections to manage it then that is fine.
Spot on Nucks. Doesn't Rafael Nadal have exactly the same problem? he may pull out of the occasional tennis tournament but aside from that he seems to play with it just fine, and by "just fine" I mean 3 hours matches running around, chasing down every ball in a way no-one else on a tennis court ever has.
We've got a couple of lads on our team who've had cruciate surgery in the past, they are always in for a couple of painful days after matches. As you said, for Owen Hargreaves it'll just be a case of managing that pain from now on in.