Ousmane Dembele to Dortmund| 5yr deal confirmed.

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Mkhitaryans decision, wheter he extends his contract or not, will be announced before the DFB-Pokalfinale.
I don't buy these timelines touted by agents, players or clubs any longer. They've been too often missed.
There is even the slight possibility of extending the contract of Mkhitaryan and still buy Götze. That would probably mean that Kagawa has to leave though.
But Dortmund needs a topclass CM replacement for Hummels and probably a replacement for Gündogan. I don't think Götze would be a replacement for Gündogan.
Regrding these three sentences, I don't think so. If there's one thing that Tuchel has proven is that he does the unexpected, and if Götze returns, I wouldn't be the least surprised if Tuchel plays him in a deeper role.
 
Can't wait to see him play alongside Sanches for Bayern in a few years.
 
This sound more realistic than only the 15m that was reported before. Dembele is one of the biggest talents in Europe and after the fees paid for Sanches and Martial Rennes would have to be beyond stupid to accept a 15m offer for him.
Bonus payments are of course part of the deal, see above. :) I'd be inclined to believe the up to 37m if it hadn't come from '20 minutes'. No disrespect but I consider the media close to Rennes (OF), L'Equipe, or RTL as more trustworthy sources.
 
Well that just went from bargain to blockbuster. :lol:
 
20minutes.ch? That site releases bullshit "news" and "rumours" every other day.
 
It seems like LVG has laid the foundations for all these transfers that have bonuses in them.
 
Good move for BVB and Ousmane. Not sure about Rennes, maybe the Puma connection has something to do with it.
 
Good move for BVB and Ousmane. Not sure about Rennes, maybe the Puma connection has something to do with it.
That's one possibility but the general concept makes sense regardless: Comparably low fee for one of the biggest prospects with hefty bonus payments in case he lives up his potential.
 
That's one possibility but the general concept makes sense regardless: Comparably low fee for one of the biggest prospects with hefty bonus payments in case he lives up his potential.

When Sanches goes for €35m, plus another almost sure €25m (and to Bayern, who aren't exactly known for beiong generous with their offers) it's hard to makes sense of a €15m fee for Dembele from Rennes perspective, regardless of the boni.
 
When Sanches goes for €35m, plus another almost sure €25m (and to Bayern, who aren't exactly known for beiong generous with their offers) it's hard to makes sense of a €15m fee for Dembele from Rennes perspective, regardless of the boni.
Everybody is entitled to his opinion. To me it makes perfect sense.
 
The face of a genius.

Or some annoying bloke from Entourage.
 
That's one possibility but the general concept makes sense regardless: Comparably low fee for one of the biggest prospects with hefty bonus payments in case he lives up his potential.
The exact fee is still speculation but Rennes could probably have created a bidding war and got close to a Martial fee from the big boys.

Selling to BVB doesn't look like the most profitable unless it includes a high resale %.
 
The exact fee is still speculation but Rennes could probably have created a bidding war and got close to a Martial fee from the big boys.

Selling to BVB doesn't look like the most profitable unless it includes a high resale %.
If the player as it seems to have been the case here was determined to join one specific club, the club cannot initiate a bidding war. The options are only keep him and hope he'll change his mind or sell him for the best possible compromise.

Nevertheless I'm sure (see previous posts) that there's a generous percentage for future transfer fees involved.
 
To be fair it is genius. The club gets the overpriced money they want and the buying club either gets a cheap flop or an expensive superstar, which I'm sure no one would mind.
Renato Sanches and Martial wouldn't be cheap even without the bonuses.
 
Heck of a deal for Dortmund. The boy can play and will be a star for them. And then off to Bayern in 4 years time.
 
Can we swap please? They take
Hummels back, we get Dembele.
 
Time to update the thread title. right :p?

Absolutely delighted about this news. As nerve wrecking and partly dissapointing following the developments for some of the established players are, as exciting is the look on the massive amount of young talent we collect at the moment: Dembele, Pulisic, Passlack, Merino and Weigl are some of the finest talents on their respective positions and there is even more waiting in a youth academy, which by now has at least caught in (if not even overtaken) Schalke´s "Knappenschmiede" as the best academy in Western Germany.

The price tag of 15 Mi. € seems tiny compared to deals of talents of a similar calibre, but there are IMO several factors which influenced that:

- There are expected to be several performance based bonus payments, which is a system I can completely get behind as most of goals are very ambitious, meaning that accomplishing these goals makes the increased money very well spent.
- We intensively scouted Dembele for a long time (even before he made his professional debut) and kept in touch with his camp all the time. We might have very well been the biggest interested club when we first contacted him. This and the good all around package we could offer him probably made him so determined to join us and turn down financially more lucrative offers (which makes him the newest in a very long list of players who made the same call).
- Rennes could have drawn out this whole procedere more than they did and at least squeeze out a few more millions or even take the risk of blocking the transfer alltogether. Here it was probably the often mentioned Pinault conncection between the clubs which made the transfer smoother and less expensive.

Overall just a damn fine job by our scouting team and head officials, especially the (amongst Dortmund supporter) often times criminally underrated DoF Michael Zorc. The guy is not only our biggest club legend but also one of the best managers in the business.
 
A nice side-by-side comparison of Martial stats after his last L1 season (brown-ish) and Dembélé's stats (red-ish).
Stats are adjusted to 90 minutes of pitch time.

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OF who have been well-informed on the negotiations claim to disclose the details of the transfer but I haven't found an article yet, thus I assume it's in their printed edition:


If one of our French-savvy users comes across the OF article, or quotes from it, or some more reliable claims than from 20 minutes, it would be great if you could post it here.
 
But Dortmund needs a topclass CM replacement for Hummels and probably a replacement for Gündogan. I don't think Götze would be a replacement for Gündogan.
Ginter replaces hummles and they buy in another young centreback (tah, sule, rudiger - there is plenty of young German talent there... or they can play Bender at the back)
Weigel replaces Gundogan and again they can go out and get young talent (Goretzka, Tielemens etc)
Along with Passlack and Pulisic they already have impressive young talent (weigel, Ginter and now Dembele) - they look set to remain a force for the forseable future (especially if they can keep Reus and Aubamyang)
Plus they will presumably offload Immobile this summer as well for a few extra million to invest in the squad
 
Ginter replaces hummles and they buy in another young centreback (tah, sule, rudiger - there is plenty of young German talent there... or they can play Bender at the back)
Weigel replaces Gundogan and again they can go out and get young talent (Goretzka, Tielemens etc)
Along with Passlack and Pulisic they already have impressive young talent (weigel, Ginter and now Dembele) - they look set to remain a force for the forseable future (especially if they can keep Reus and Aubamyang)
Plus they will presumably offload Immobile this summer as well for a few extra million to invest in the squad
A number of comments.
Dortmund won't buy at all for different reasons none of the following you mentioned: Tah, Rüdiger, Goretzka.
Immobile has already been offloaded. The club isn't short of finances.
Weigl will most likely not play in the Gündogan role.
It remains to be seen where Tuchel sees Merino: In a Gündogan role or try him as CB.
 
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