2016 Hummles
2017 Reus
2018 Aubamyang
2019 Ginter
2020 Dembele
2021 Weigl
2022 Pulisic
2023 Passlack
i hope Dortmund have some good 13 year olds in their academy though or Bayern are going to struggle for signings from the mid 2020's
Ousmane Dembele to Dortmund| 5yr deal confirmed.
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2016 Hummles
2017 Reus
2018 Aubamyang
2019 Ginter
2020 Dembele
2021 Weigl
2022 Pulisic
2023 Passlack
i hope Dortmund have some good 13 year olds in their academy though or Bayern are going to struggle for signings from the mid 2020's
Even if it's the 52 mil quoted there're plenty of clauses in the contract that are probably hard too trigger, Martial style. The upfront 15 mil is a joke for such a great potential that Dembele is. I can see them selling him for 4-5 times of the upfront in next 3-4 years quite easily. Great business by BVB no matter how you look at it.
L'Euipe said we tried to sign him at the last minute. Sounds like us.
L'Euipe said we tried to sign him at the last minute. Sounds like us.
Yeah great deal for Dortmund. Will interesting to watch how he will do in the Bundesliga.
Sad though that we missed out on such a great talent. Him and Martial in the our squad would have been a joy to watch no doubt.
Sad though that we missed out on such a great talent. Him and Martial in the our squad would have been a joy to watch no doubt.
How did Dortmund pull this one off? I'm sure richer clubs than them were interested. A front 4 of Reus, Aubameyang, Mkhitaryan, Dembele could be sensational.
Dortmund convinced his Mum that it's the best next step for his career.
Auba
Reus -- Henno -- Dembele
Looks indeed good.Reus -- Henno -- Dembele
I would have prefred to see:
Kane
Martial -- Griezmann -- Dembele
Martial -- Griezmann -- Dembele
Well, one can only dream these days.
I didn't know Kane could still play for France.
Dortmund suppsedly first contacted him about 1.5 years ago, which apparently helped convince the player.
Dortmund suppsedly first contacted him about 1.5 years ago, which apparently helped convince the player.
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What? That would only have cost us about 200M for Girezmann and Kane + the cheap 15M € (probably 90M for us) for Dembele. Totally doable.
I would also take Dybala instead of Griezmann, that should lower the overall price by about 5M €.
Ginter won't replace Hummels, because he is too weak defensively. Right now his future seems to be as a squad player for the RB/RWB/C(D)M positions, as well as 4th to 5th choice CB behind Hummels(replacement), Bender, Sokratis and Piszczek who played as sort of a RCB when Tuchel used a back 3.
Tah probably won't be available. Rüdiger is actually a former Dortmund player, but afaik the media hasn't mentioned him at all. Süle might be a candidate, but I don't think he was mentioned by a serious paper. Toprak, Dragovic and believe it or not Varane are supposedly at the top of Dortmund's list. Bender wouldn't be a bad option imho if the club sign a very talented younger CB who can challenge him and Sokratis soon.
Gündogan was apparently gone already, but after his injury a long term extension is supposedly back on the table.
Immobile has already been sold to Sevilla for around €14m.
I don't think there is any chance of getting Goretzka, because of the Schalke rivalry. According to Kicker Dortmund are looking for a combative CM, so it might not be Tielemans.
Weigl might be suitable as a Gündogan replacement, but then that would only shift the vacancy to his role. Mkhitaryan could actually play as a CM, especially if Dembele hits the ground running.
I could also see Götze as a Gündogan replacement, but this transfer doesn't seem as likely as it used to and I have a hard time imagining Bayern letting him go for a fair sum, after Dortmund stood firm with the Hummels fee.
Tactically Tuchel has been very flexible this season, so it's not that easy to predict how the main setup will be next season. Hummels always had a great deal of freedom because he is such an amazing playmaker from the back. I imagine his replacement won't nearly be as effective and thus play a more traditional and rigid role which in turn should free up parts of the midfield to take a more active role in the build up.
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Sahin + Weigl might still be an option as well, even though neither is as mobile as Gündogan is/was. It would certainly mean that Hummels' replacement didn't have to shoulder as much responsibility in the build-up as Hummels did.
Since his year of injury Sahin seems even less mobile than he used to be to me. He can still be a valuable option, but I don't see him as a safe starter anymore.
Might just need a bit time to get back to his former self. Give him a full preseason and a few games next season before you judge him. That being said, Dortmund probably shouldn't plan with him as a regular starter considering how often he's injured.
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With the exception of when they face left handed goalkeepers
Pretty laughable that no premier league team has taken him up with their massive resources. He's got amazing potential.
Exciting times for Munich fans seeing how he will develop
It sounds like he had his pick of top clubs across Europe, but he preferred Dortmund.
I'd say Dortmund pretty much outranks any PL team in attractiveness when it comes to players taking their next step in their development. You always need to consider that the player probably wanted to join a side that has good chances of consistent participation in the CL, a good track record of giving young players a chance and plays some exciting football as a cherry on top of that. It imo also makes sense making a step from Ligue 1 to Bundesliga and maybe after that to the PL or La Liga.
Premier league top 6 teams have more money than Dortmund. Someone should have stuck 80kpw under his nose.
Well the fact that he didn't join a PL suggests you might be wrong in that assumption. By that I mean the assumption that it's just the money that will do the trick.
Maybe but it's more likely they didn't take the risk on him.
It's not always just about the money if you are a young player and chose a new club. Look at Odegaard, his progress will be stalled because he chose money over developing perspective and joined the wrong club. Now would you as a young player join Chelsea or City? Both have a horrible track record at giving young players a go in the first team and very good squads. Dortmund hasn't a bad squad either and he won't be an automatic starter but if Tuchel has shown one thing in his career that he rotates a lot and gives young players a lot of opportunities.
Of course we also have good track record with young players but tbh I don't know if playing under LvG is so attractive for every player and maybe we weren't even going full in for him. I think he himself said in an interview that Dortmund gave him the feeling that they were most interested in him and been courting him for a while which probably also helps if you give a player the feeling that you are really planning with him.
In short there is more to money in some cases of getting a young player to join your team and it seems that apart from Dortmund the other teams that were interested failed on that front or simply came short.
I don't disagree that it's often the wrong choice but fact remains players almost always follow the money. A side with top 4/6 aspirations should be looking at players like him going forward. Someone who the biggest clubs aren't willing to take a chance on but has the potential to be world class. Liverpool for instance have 1 wide player in their entire squad.
It's widely reported other clubs including the big guns were interested but he wasn't for this next step. It's obvious that some young players have better advisers for their careers than others, and Dembélé mother though without a background in football seem to be far more realistic and looks for sustainable development.
It's been widely reported that we're gonna sign Gaitain every summer. Good players with links to bigs clubs is just a sign of an agent earning his money. Chances are these clubs didn't make firm offers or he'd be playing elsewhere.
Our CEO and head coach confirmed these paper talks on Dembélé but go ahead and talk yourself into that nobody from the big guns made a firm offer if it pleases you.
Our CEO and head coach confirmed these paper talks on Dembélé but go ahead and talk yourself into that nobody from the big guns made a firm offer if it pleases you.
Is this for real? Your CEO claims that lots of other clubs wanted him but he choose Dortmund and you don't think he's ever doing this out of self interest? Are you really this naive?
On the contrary I think you're very naive to think players at this young age are not aware of the risks to join an elite club and prefer money over a sustainable development. But as I said, if it pleases you, go ahead.
english media....
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getting ready these days for the cup-final...
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getting ready these days for the cup-final...
On the contrary I think you're very naive to think players at this young age are not aware of the risks to join an elite club and prefer money over a sustainable development. But as I said, if it pleases you, go ahead.
Why do you keep repeating if it please you? It comes across as pretty condescending and smug which isn't a good look. I have zero vested interest in where Dembele goes and It's not as if United have been heavily linked with him or missed out. It's very clearly in the interest of all people involved to make these claims about almost every transfer, player comes out and says he had loads of offers but choose club X and all the fans are gitty thinking he loves the club, CEO comes out and says this player had tons of offers but we got the deal done and muppet fans think "omg what a good CEO get him a new contract" etc. I mean it happens at almost every club all around the globe which is why i'm surprised anyone is so naive to really put much stock in it but there you go.
Here's a tip going forward, back in the 90s all the best players in the world used to say it was their "dream" to play for AC Milan/Juve/Inter etc because those were the sides handing out the biggest cheques, then the money dried up and all of a sudden players stopped dreaming of playing in Italy and had dreams of Madrid/Barca who coincidently had began to overtake the Italian clubs in handing out the big cheques. Now a days you'll see plenty of players "dreaming" of playing for PSG/City/Chelsea despite most of them knowing nothing about the club, any idea why?
The whole 'one of the English clubs definitely would have him, if they were interested because they can offer more money' still isn't true though. It's not like other clubs offer peanuts in terms of wages nowadays. Dortmund can't match the elite clubs, but they can still pay a huge salary. Their revenue significantly increased over the last few years and they have sold shares of the club to big companies to further increase their wealth. They might not be able to compete with City, Chelsea or United. But they surely can easily match what for example Spurs offer, who I guess belongs in the top 6 English clubs which you mentioned?
And none of the English clubs (or PSG) today offers the same overall package Milan/Juve/Inter did back in the late 80's/90s anyway. To reduce everything to money is just silly and in fact naive. Some big names will go for it of course, just like some players will go to China and earn three times as much as United can offer. But the majority of players still look at what a club can offer overall with the wages being a main reason, but certainly not the sole reason. Despite the global interest in the Premier League from fans and companies, the league's standing between players is nowhere near what Serie A was during its peak when Italian clubs attracted the elite players with ease who nowadays play for Real/Barca and to a lesser degree Bayern and who simply don't consider leaving for England.
And none of the English clubs (or PSG) today offers the same overall package Milan/Juve/Inter did back in the late 80's/90s anyway. To reduce everything to money is just silly and in fact naive. Some big names will go for it of course, just like some players will go to China and earn three times as much as United can offer. But the majority of players still look at what a club can offer overall with the wages being a main reason, but certainly not the sole reason. Despite the global interest in the Premier League from fans and companies, the league's standing between players is nowhere near what Serie A was during its peak when Italian clubs attracted the elite players with ease who nowadays play for Real/Barca and to a lesser degree Bayern and who simply don't consider leaving for England.
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Apparently SportBild - who are usually not really reliable, but for some reason they've been quite well informed about Dortmund (namely Dembele and Hummels) lately - reported today that Dembele cost €8m upfront plus up to another €7m in bonus clauses.
They also report United wants to buy Mario Gomez 
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Aubameyang has contacted him to convince him in joining Dortmund.
Honestly, by now I´m convinced that Heiko Ostendorp (responsible for us in SportBild) got himself a very good source deep inside the BVB. His informations this season have turned out way too accurately for just sniffing around the club. It is also not just Dembele and Hummels either. Both Merino and Malli (this got blocked by Mainz eventually but the offer was very real) originated from SportBild.
It would have been a hilarious thought just a year ago, but by now SportBild is one of the most reliable papers concerning Dortmund.
He could have played a role here, yeah as he is a pretty big success story of a Ligue 1 player making the transiition to a bigger league. He will probably take Dembele under his wing like he did with all other new guys (that is kinda his thing inside the team).
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