Ousmane Dembele | Fee agreed with Dortmund, medical on Monday, Barca go from MSN to LSD

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Because the guy is the next Messi. You make room for players like him. I'd gladly chuck a 100m at him and more if that's what it takes. Guy is insanely talented.
He's more like the Ronaldo that joined us than a young Messi imo.
 
They have Messi. Is he going to sit on their bench? And he's not the next Messi.

By the times he's fully ready he'd be good to replace Suarez or Messi would drop deeper. Even if he's not a starter he'd get loads of game time given the lack of depth at Barca.

He's more like the Ronaldo that joined us than a young Messi imo.

Nah. His ridiculous dribbling ability and vision is reminiscent of Messi. Ronaldo never really had this level of dribbling ability even when he was with us.
 
I doubt they'd consider that, they have no reason to given his long term contract and the crazy market atm.
So Barcelona are gonna buy him for £100m?

By the times he's fully ready he'd be good to replace Suarez or Messi would drop deeper. Even if he's not a starter he'd get loads of game time given the lack of depth at Barca.
£100m for a bench player? Interesting.
 
So Barcelona are gonna buy him for £100m?


£100m for a bench player? Interesting.
Can't see barca forking out the 100mil or so it'd take to get Dortmund to the table. They have much more important spots to fill.
By the times he's fully ready he'd be good to replace Suarez or Messi would drop deeper. Even if he's not a starter he'd get loads of game time given the lack of depth at Barca.



Nah. His ridiculous dribbling ability and vision is reminiscent of Messi. Ronaldo never really had this level of dribbling ability even when he was with us.
What I meant was that his dribbling is more flashy like Ronaldo's was rather than pure effectiveness ala Messi. So think you're underrating Ronaldo's dribbling though, he was ridiculously good at beating his man before he changed his style. His vision is definitely on another level though, agreed.
 
He likes the club & vice versa, would be a nice fit on that right side.
Barca is obviously a bigger pull than United and Jose is not really known for bringing young players up. But I hope that United would at least try to sign him in case he becomes available
 
He likes the club & vice versa, would be a nice fit on that right side.
I think he'd be amazing for you. The chances he creates through pure pace and beating his man first time will result in shitloads of goals with Neymar and/or Suarez at the end of the crosses. Would love to see him at United, but that's next to impossible.
 
I think he'd be amazing for you. The chances he creates through pure pace and beating his man first time will result in shitloads of goals with Neymar and/or Suarez at the end of the crosses. Would love to see him at United, but that's next to impossible.

Would be a lovely addition no doubt but I am skeptical that it will be pulled off due to the cost/difficulty to negotiate the transfer with Dortmund when their two other main targets (Bellerin & Verratti) will be even more complicated transfers. I think the club will go with the cheaper alternative in Deulofeu which is fine with me but Gerard also can veto the return
 
I wonder if these things will ever change. Barca and Madrid hoover up the true top-end superstars and this will be no different. We currently have Messi and Ronaldo at these clubs and it'll soon be Mbappe and Dembele. It's hard not to envy that.
 
I kind of gave up on him, the guy dreams of Barcelona. I don't see him coming to Manchester United, and if he did it'd be a stepping stone. He's pretty smart in that he turned them down last season to join Dortmund knowing that if he performed they'd be back for him, but maybe this is still too soon for him. Either way, this guy is off to Barcelona at some point soon. People say Kylian Mbappe is off to Madrid or dreams of Madrid when he's never said so, Ousmane actually did say that and now he's dead to me (kidding).
 
I wonder if these things will ever change. Barca and Madrid hoover up the true top-end superstars and this will be no different. We currently have Messi and Ronaldo at these clubs and it'll soon be Mbappe and Dembele. It's hard not to envy that.

There is a Messi/Ronaldo effect that can't be denied. These two have done so much for those clubs.

It wasn't this way before Ronaldo went to Real. Remember Heinze wanted to go to Liverpool over Real back then? This wasn't an anomaly either.
 
There is a Messi/Ronaldo effect that can't be denied. These two have done so much for those clubs.

It wasn't this way before Ronaldo went to Real. Remember Heinze wanted to go to Liverpool over Real back then? This wasn't an anomaly either.

When we were at the top of the tree the worlds best didn't want to come to us either....often choosing projects before us. Now we are a project they would rather go to the best teams....
 
I kind of gave up on him, the guy dreams of Barcelona. I don't see him coming to Manchester United, and if he did it'd be a stepping stone. He's pretty smart in that he turned them down last season to join Dortmund knowing that if he performed they'd be back for him, but maybe this is still too soon for him. Either way, this guy is off to Barcelona at some point soon. People say Kylian Mbappe is off to Madrid or dreams of Madrid when he's never said so, Ousmane actually did say that and now he's dead to me (kidding).
I said this in the Mbappe thread as well. Both these guys will go for 100mil+ when they move. Say United got them and they went on to have a fantastic 2yrs, do you think Real/Barca could afford them anymore? I don't. They'd just be priced out.
 
What's the point in him going to Barca? He needs to be playing every week.

Unless they're willing to part with Neymar and we bid for him. :wenger:
 
I don't see Dortmund selling him at all and I don't see him pushing for a move to sit the bench behind MSN either, when Dortmund just hired the next attack minded coach who is going to love him and apparently even speaks French.
 
He's not going anywhere for the next 2 seasons as he still has a longterm contract. And then he will be very expensive, probably 100+.

Also i think his destination will be Barca or maybe Bayern. But i think he will be too expensive for Bayern.
 
What's the point in him going to Barca? He needs to be playing every week.

Unless they're willing to part with Neymar and we bid for him. :wenger:
Probably their response to Real signing Mbappe.
 
I'm wondering how many Dembele's you could fit into a quality team?

The one from Celtic as a striker
The one from Dortmund as RW
The one from Spurs in central midfield

Its a shame there isn't one that plays at LW. i've love to had a top 3 of Dembeles.
 
I'm wondering how many Dembele's you could fit into a quality team?

The one from Celtic as a striker
The one from Dortmund as RW
The one from Spurs in central midfield

Its a shame there isn't one that plays at LW. i've love to had a top 3 of Dembeles.
A commentators nightmare.
 
When we were at the top of the tree the worlds best didn't want to come to us either....often choosing projects before us. Now we are a project they would rather go to the best teams....

ONLY because we would penny pinch on fees and wages.

We always tried to pay less than others were offering or that it needed for the deal to be done.

Thankfully, Woody has canned that approach.
 
I'd probably take him over any other players not already among the elite. Wonderful talent. The ideal right winger for us.
 
ONLY because we would penny pinch on fees and wages.

We always tried to pay less than others were offering or that it needed for the deal to be done.

Thankfully, Woody has canned that approach.
Yeah I think we were a bit lax when we were on top. Should have been more ruthless and maintained the highest standards. SAF being so good at winning things allowed him to let a lot of talents pass us by without it affecting our success that much.
 
I'm wondering how many Dembele's you could fit into a quality team?

The one from Celtic as a striker
The one from Dortmund as RW

The one from Spurs in central midfield

Its a shame there isn't one that plays at LW. i've love to had a top 3 of Dembeles.
I'd sign those two if only for the total confusion in rival defences: "you told me to track Dembele!", "not that Dembele, the other", "nah, Jimmy has that one", "and who's tracking this Dembele then?". The more the merrier.
 
Apparently Dortmund have slapped a £79m asking price on his head.

In today's market this seems like an absolute steal

Get on it Ed :devil:
 
Apparently Dortmund have slapped a £79m asking price on his head.

In today's market this seems like an absolute steal

Get on it Ed :devil:

We should be all over this, he'd give us the kind of magic out wide we've been lacking and his delivery would be ideal for Morata.
 
Apparently Dortmund have slapped a £79m asking price on his head.

In today's market this seems like an absolute steal

Get on it Ed :devil:
I'd pay that without blinking, he's one of the biggest talents in world football and exactly the type of player who we have been missing for many years now.

De Gea

Valencia Bailly Lindelöf Shaw

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Herrera Pogba

Mkhitaryan Morata Dembele
 
No one expected Ronaldo to score 50 goals in a season or become the goal machine that he is today. He struggled to score goals when he first came to United. There was a lot of dribbling with no end product but we believed in him. Dembele similarly has that same talent and he exhibits similar qualities as a 19 year old Ronaldo. I think the talent is the same but it's the work ethic that to reach Ronaldo's level is something that is up for question.
He doesn't. What makes Ronaldo is his physique that Ndembele will never have. Ndembele will never even reach Henry's level. He will be another Ribery.
 
Well he is. Talent has nothing to do with frustration, his ceiling is simply higher. Can use both feet to an exceptional standard, is just as good if not a better dribbler and is younger. Only thing Martial is better at is finishing, which isn't essential for a proper winger like Dembele.

Martial is a great talent and can become a top player but Dembele has a higher ceiling. Not saying Dembele will become a better player because in football anything can happen, but he's more gifted a player
Which talents? For one...Martial is a better finisher and sprinter than him. Maybe he is a better passer although AMA mot sure. For me Ndembele's ceiling is prime Ribery.
 
I don't consider him a talent anymore, more of a genuine world class player. If he wasn't 20 but a few years old playing at the same level he currently is, he would be considered a top x player. Considering we're going to pay about 70 million euros for Morata, 79 is a bargain for Dembele.

As much as I love Martial, I do think Dembele is a better player. Martial is better than Mbappe however.
 
£79m when Mbappe might be going for 130m Euros is a good price.
 
Now they are quoting 90 m for him, when Dortmund got him for something like 20 m.
 
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