I wonder if these crazy fees and wages going around will see players try to sign with clubs on shorter contracts or not while clubs try to ensure contracts are as lengthy as possible or if things will just carry on as they are. This is surely unsustainable long term, no matter how much tv money etc is around.
Ousmane Dembele | Fee agreed with Dortmund, medical on Monday, Barca go from MSN to LSD
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And not even remotely close to being worth the price that has been reported.
Very true. It's crazy how things are evolving.
Whatever the fee for a possible Dembele transfer will be in the end, Neymar's transfer will have driven it up significantly - without him no one would even be thinking about Dembele leaving this summer. So the real question to me is whether or not the Neymar transfer will be an exception.
Well here we go.
I agree. Before Neymar to PSG was a reality, I was hearing about Dembelé to Barca for 100-110 million euros which was stupid already.
Definitely. He's far from the finished article and perhaps his arrival would be coming a year or two sooner than ideal but it is what it is atm. By comparison, Neymar arrived at 22 and was still being questioned as to being ready for European football and he quickly erased those concerns.
He's a monster talent with a sky is the limit ceiling IMHO
It won't be exception, at least when very good players move then Neymar price will be referenced for sure. For smaller clubs and signings it won't have much impact but for bigger players it obviously would. For example if Dybala moves next season it would be for more than 150 Million.
If he spends the next 10 years at the club and they win a lot of trophies, then it will have been worth it.
And if he burns out like so many other 'wonderkids' it won't be. Look at our own troubles with Martial (and I'm not saying he's done, just that a successful 18 months at 19/20 doesn't guarantee anything).
It's a ludicrous fee, in my opinion, even taking into account what they received for Neymar.
Who do they play at left wing then? Unless they have some wonderkid in their academy, they need someone who can attempt to be as productive as Neymar, or as close to him as possible.
Couldn't you say for £250m? £300m? Where's the limit? The reality is that we're very bad at valuing things even with extensive supporting evidence. The way we generally do it is through comparing one thing to another, and the evidence entirely points to Neymar's record-breaking fee causing people to fundamentally change what they thought was a good value. There's all sorts of reasons for why that's a bad approach to valuing things but it's usually how we do it.
I would think that the current United team is still very much in 'rehab', but is making good progress. We don't play attractive football (so far) but I think (hope) that is because the team is still relatively new and need more time to gel, especially now with the inclusion of first team players in Lukaku and Matic. I would think given more time, the team will do better now that Lukaku and Matic supposedly will bring more balanced to the team and bringing with them years of experience playing in the EPL.
Hopefully the team will continue to progress and will play much better brand of football throughout the season. If the team becomes more successful than last season, and the season before that, then the wunderkinds would have more reasons to choose United over other big teams. Playing in a successful team that plays exciting and progressive kind of football will attract more players, and not just because of the history, stature and most important of all, money. I don't think it is sustainable to spend 200 millions every year and buy 3 or 4 players, plus having them to gel as a team, but I trust Mourinho will continue to 'repair' this United team and get rid of the deadwoods.
Hopefully the team will continue to progress and will play much better brand of football throughout the season. If the team becomes more successful than last season, and the season before that, then the wunderkinds would have more reasons to choose United over other big teams. Playing in a successful team that plays exciting and progressive kind of football will attract more players, and not just because of the history, stature and most important of all, money. I don't think it is sustainable to spend 200 millions every year and buy 3 or 4 players, plus having them to gel as a team, but I trust Mourinho will continue to 'repair' this United team and get rid of the deadwoods.
@lequipe Info: Ousmane Dembélé is expected to sign in the next few hours to Barcelona! Agreement for his transfer to finalisationBosz: "There was no sign yesterday that Ousmane Dembele would not be here today. We hope nothing terrible has happened." #fcrbvb
Bosz: "I talked to Dembele yesterday. He told me he was in Paris with his friends. He did not say anything about a transfer." #fcrbvb
quotes are from Dortmund's press conference for their upcoming cup match.
Would he be going AWOL if a transfer was all but done? Seems a bit strange, but who knows.
£30m was a ridiculous and breathtaking amount at the time and beyond any other club in English football. Seems like quoted Dembele fee is the modern day equivalent taking tranefer fee inflation into account.
I like that team. Do you think this will be the next step in Messi's transition? More centrally and less drifting to the wing?
Yeah, there is some speculation, early of course, that the player potentially is rebelling but I wouldn't rush to a conclusion like that yet. If true, however, than clearly douche and certainly linked to this douche board of mine
Club dropped a ball not going for him before he left for Dortmund. Everyone on here could see it and called it - only one that didn't who could have made it happen is Mourinho. Infuriating, but unfortunately not surprising.
Absolutely - but remember, this is Messi and he will not stay in one position per se
Where does Coutinho fit into that?
Once again, what makes you think United didn't try to get him? What if Dembele rejected United?
The fee for Dembele is only as crazy as it is because Barca are the ones who are buying. They have 222m burning a hole in their pocket. And that's just because of PSG's oil money used to activate Neymar's release clause. IMO it remains to be seen whether selling clubs will be able to use the Neymar and Dembele prices to significantly increase fees. When Barca, an oil money club or an English club (TV money) come knocking, the price will increase. But if none of those clubs are competing to sign a player, who knows how the market will be. E.g. Bonucci went for just 30m...
Comfortably in Klopp's arms I suspect
Joking aside, if he comes he will be rotating with Iniesta
If true terrible decision from Dortmund.
Delofeu is nowhere near good enough for you lot
What if Dembele really wants this move and will force it?
Definitely, they'll make an enormous profit (largest in their history) on a player they landed a year ago and then proceed to buy several gems with it. It's Dortmund, they will go on
In about 2yrs, the transfer market won't exist. Teams will be charged £50m for players the level of say, Xherdan Shaqiri, and everyone will just say 'screw it, spend the money on youth development'.
SkyGermany saying that he's on his way to Barcelona.
Call his bluff.
They probably will not sign anyone as good.
This plus players will start demanding release clauses in their contracts.
No point in signing for a club to develop yourself if you are priced out of the move when the time comes.
You don't always have to get like for like to improve your team. Dembele is a promising talent even if he isn't Neymar but that does not mean Barcelona will be weaker overall as a team
Transfer to Barca will be finalized in the next few hours.
Ridiculous price.
Pogba is actually a bargain now, Juve mus be pissed .
Pogba is actually a bargain now, Juve mus be pissed .
So essentially Barca have sold Neymar for Dembele + €90m (which isn't even enough to buy Coutinho)
Dembele is a great prospect but nowhere near the level of what Neymar has shown the past couple years
Dembele is a great prospect but nowhere near the level of what Neymar has shown the past couple years
Coutinho >>>> Delofeu
Damn you and your super talented national team!
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