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Ousmane Dembele | Fee agreed with Dortmund, medical on Monday, Barca go from MSN to LSD
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He's a great talent but damn that price(if true) is again ridiculous.
This summer for sure is crazy. Dembele is an amazing talent, no doubt, but 130m is just crazy and way off what you usually pay for a top player
The market has moved, this is the new barometer.
We really did buy Pogba at the best possible time IMO.
That's a very simple explanation, isnt it?
So if they were to buy Hazard instead, a more established player from a rich club, how much woule he be? 
I can't get my head around the money being thrown around this summer.
I can't get my head around the money being thrown around this summer.
So if they were to buy Hazard instead, a more established player from a rich club, how much woule he be?
I can't get my head around the money being thrown around this summer.
`170 m pounds
Wonder what happened to wanna develop under no pressure arguments?
Surely this is not true? I keep reading that Jose doesn't want him. I don't think any manager in the world will oppose signing players of that calibre. I'm sure Jose would be very happy if we sign him. I think this is just a case of the player wanting to join Barca, which no one can do anything about. He likes players to be hard working, but I don't think he's that stupid to reject a player like Dembele.
A player who scored 6 goals last year and is 20 years old shouldn't cost that much. Its insane
Mbappé for 150m +, the market is out of control..
It's not like Pogba for €105m was good value for money just because the market has gone a lot more insane now. We clearly overpaid.
Why would you judge him by the amount of goals he scored? He contributed 10 goals and 21 assists across competitions, among them two match winning performances in the cup semi vs Bayern and in the cup final - as a 19 year old. And that's with him still possessing the inconsistency of youth.
He managed the switch form Rennes to Dortmund without missing a beat, instantly became perhaps his club's most important attacking player (aside from Aubameyang's goals obviously). He seems largely immune to pressure and is one of those players who can create something out of nothing, even when momentum is going against his team.
At the moment he looks like a safe bet for WPOTY in a couple of years.
If you don't pay high end money (don't forget that the eventual fee will be inflated by Neymar's and by the general timing (late in the window)) for that then who else?
No one in Dortmund is crying tears of joy because they won the lottery, even with the huge numbers that are being reported.
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10 years ago a player like Dembele would have been considered no more than a very promising prospect. Now he's moving for the price of a fully developed world class player. The price is set as if he's a sure thing. But there are no guarantees. Just look at Martial.
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My point is he's still incredibly raw. Mbappe can go for that price because he can score goals but Dembele is a raw and inconsistent talent since he's still only 20
Improvement isnt linear and there have been many more promising 20 year olds who have fallen away rather than kicking on.
Go back in time and everyone would have told us that we must sign Wilshere, Shaw, Gotze, Stones, half of La Masia, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Theo Walcott, Iheanacho etc etc because of their impressive splashes into professional football. Hell Martial's first season with us was better than Dembele last year.
Its insane. You're better off buying established stars for that price
My point is he's still incredibly raw. Mbappe can go for that price because he can score goals but Dembele is a raw and inconsistent talent since he's still only 20
Improvement isnt linear and there have been many more promising 20 year olds who have fallen away rather than kicking on.
Go back in time and everyone would have told us that we must sign Wilshere, Shaw, Gotze, Stones, half of La Masia, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Theo Walcott, Iheanacho etc etc because of their impressive splashes into professional football. Hell Martial's first season with us was better than Dembele last year.
Its insane. You're better off buying established stars for that price
Just like Mbappe can score, Dembele can create.
It's true that the market has gone bonkers but it's across the board. Lukaku at 75 million is also a laughable fee. I'd rather have Dembele for more to be honest. As was Morata bonkers, given he's never lead the line as first choice at a big club. Neymar at 199 million is actually fine given these ridiculous fees. He is more than twice the footballer that Lukaku or Morata are.
But in this climate, I'd take Dembele for that fee. He's a phenomenal talent. Rather him than two good/very good players.
Don't worry guys, we've got Lingard and Young!
He'd go for 30 million like Rooney did. He wouldn't be considered a 'promising prospect' but rather one of the most exciting young players in the game and he'd command a big fee (for the time).
Like the Island in Lost?
Who the hell could Dortmund buy to replace him?
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Why United isn't in for this kind of players? Only linked with physical players with no flair whatsoever. Lukaku, Willian, etc etc. It really is a shame.
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Dembele already has everything in place, he's scoring solo goals, he's providing ridiculous assists, his dribbling is top notch. The only clear weakness he has is a bit of consistency, but that's normal for a 19 year old and usually something that comes with age. And even through that consistency you can count on him for a couple of special moments each game. Like against Bayern for example, where he was off the pace in the first half then delivered one world class dribbling through half their midfield, an assist and a Robben-esque goal.
You think he'd turn down Barca for United? I seriously doubt that.
Dembele already has everything in place, he's scoring solo goals, he's providing ridiculous assists, his dribbling is top notch. The only clear weakness he has is a bit of consistency, but that's normal for a 19 year old and usually something that comes with age. And even through that consistency you can count on him for a couple of special moments each game. Like against Bayern for example, where he was off the pace in the first half then delivered one world class dribbling through half their midfield, an assist and a Robben-esque goal.
You think he'd turn down Barca for United? I seriously doubt that.
Great deal for all parties.
How is his off ball movement? He'll spend a lot of the time without the ball at Barcelona with the play going through Messi. It's why Sanchez struggled, and Neymar was actually so brilliant for them.
This the guy who cost 15 million a year ago? LOLZ.
He must have been pretty good last season.
He must have been pretty good last season.
People need to start looking at these price tags in the correct context. Think it was Wenger who recently said the price of a player is now dependent on the identity of the buying club.
Everyone knows Barcelona have 200m burning a whole in their pocket so naturally they are going to have to pay more. It's a similar set of circumstances that led to Liverpool paying 35m for Andy Carroll, just heightened.
Everyone knows Barcelona have 200m burning a whole in their pocket so naturally they are going to have to pay more. It's a similar set of circumstances that led to Liverpool paying 35m for Andy Carroll, just heightened.
Should be posted on thread title. People saying "why we aren't in for him" "I would rather sign Dembele than Xyz" thinks signing players is like grocery shopping.
Barca are in for him to replace one of their best player, there is no way he would sign for any other club now.
The question is, did we even try? I'm sick of Jose's comments where he said that we are only interested in players that want us as their first choice. Breaking news, we are not as attractive as we were decades ago. We have a responsibility to 'attract' players rather than wait for any available left overs.
Quote me on this, he is going to use that as an excuse this season like, "we didn't get the players wanted, or the ones we wanted were not in the right mind to play for us"
Done.
Sanchez is more of a striker, whereas Dembele is more of a midfielder. He's happy to drop deep/roam and carry the ball through midfield. A bit like Mkhitaryan perhaps.
Who told you that United didn't try? Should the club release a press release regarding that question for every interesting player who switches clubs?
I know this isn't a Dembele to Utd thread, but it may as well be- For me Dembele is a better prospect than Mbappe. He's been a revelation for more than one season for one thing and before Monaco's firesale Mbappe was supported by by far the most talented team in France (PSG included). Every player they had was in great form and he had more space on the ball as the focus was also on Lemar, Bernardo Silva (who we should have been in for), Fabinho, Mendy and Falcao. How he'll perform in a weaker side with closer marking and more focus on him is yet to be seen. Dembele was amazing in Ligue 1 and earned a transfer to a higher league and has continued to dazzle. Anelka was another young future legend who had one great season, went to Real Madrid where he flopped and his career went downhill from there. I think it's risky to rate a player on a single season, Dembele has at least 2 seasons of excellence behind him. Even then I'd say it's a risk but I'd rather we went for Dembele than Mbappe and that's ignoring these crazy prices. If they were both free and could choose one it's Dembele every time.
Back to reality, the above is why Barca are in for him and why the move makes sense. They may have to pay some crazy fee but he's worth at least half a Neymar (who's just a mercenary player anyway).
Back to reality, the above is why Barca are in for him and why the move makes sense. They may have to pay some crazy fee but he's worth at least half a Neymar (who's just a mercenary player anyway).
That is the €130 million question.
When we bought Kagawa, they replaced him with the vastly superior Reus.
When we bought Mikhitaryan, they replaced him with the now €130 million (probably) Dembele.
We should see who Dortmund are buying to replace Dembele and just go for him. We should be able to compete with Dortmund for players.
Perhaps we should clarify in the title it's to Barcelona?
Made me think United had agreed a fee for a minute.
Made me think United had agreed a fee for a minute.
It's all well and good producing at Dortmund but IMO this move is far too soon for him. He's not ready to play at a consistent high level on the left of a fron 3 for Barca as they try to regain their domestic and continental superiority over Real and for the reported fee that will be the expectation.
I feel the same about Mbappe's potential transfer to Real.
I feel the same about Mbappe's potential transfer to Real.
He's the best young wide player in world football. 20 years old and has shown his class over the past 18 months.
He is the ideal replacement for Neymar.
10 goals and 20 assists last season at the age of 19. He can play anywhere across a front three. Perfect solution.
Kicker say it might be Cornet. But since they also sold Mor it's possible that they will be buying two attackers if Dembele is sold.
Sure whoever goes to Real with have the likes of Bale and Isco breathing down his neck, but at Barca? Who would be there to challenge him?
You're a serial moaner. The season hasn't even began. Accept where United are at the moment or support another club.
Do Barcelona actually need him? Couldn't they invest that money in something else instead (at any level from senior to youth to subsidizing fans' tickets)? Is this a purely political move from el presidente after losing a major asset (Neymar)?
Market seems insane. Clubs seem hell bent on buying players. Just seems perverse all round.
Market seems insane. Clubs seem hell bent on buying players. Just seems perverse all round.
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