Everything looked good last week after the Höjlund deal. We were going to sell the likes of Maguire, Bailly, McTominay and raise even more money for our next targets but everything went completely shit. On top of that you have that God awful start to the season performance wise, and this whole drama with todays statement. Man this club loves doing everything the hard way.
Our window isn’t the great success many claim
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yep pretty much spot on. So close to sticking the landing off a good routine, then we go and bang our knee on the dismount and splat face first. Not moving on maguire and mctominay and bringing in the proper players is a huge step back.
We should have known it was all going a bit too well to be true.
Only time will tell.
Although I think we've had a good window personally, I can see why people are unhappy. We still have the same core of players that have failed us year after year, I was looking forward to sales more than incomings, but Fred is the only player of note to leave. Another season with players that can't control the game for long periods and bottle it when it matters most. Newcastle are a good example of how to do transfers. They've only brought in a handful of players but they've made some great signings. Tonali for £55M whilst Mount cost us £60 and we don't need a midfielder in his mould. Hojlund is potentially an amazing signing but we still need cover up front.
We should sign the players we need and worry about outgoings afterwards. We should force players out and not let them steal a living whilst not being wanted, other clubs manage to do it but we never can.
Although I think we've had a good window personally, I can see why people are unhappy. We still have the same core of players that have failed us year after year, I was looking forward to sales more than incomings, but Fred is the only player of note to leave. Another season with players that can't control the game for long periods and bottle it when it matters most. Newcastle are a good example of how to do transfers. They've only brought in a handful of players but they've made some great signings. Tonali for £55M whilst Mount cost us £60 and we don't need a midfielder in his mould. Hojlund is potentially an amazing signing but we still need cover up front.
We should sign the players we need and worry about outgoings afterwards. We should force players out and not let them steal a living whilst not being wanted, other clubs manage to do it but we never can.
Spurs and Arsenal will give us a good going over and then panic.
It’s been pretty awful. The sales side of things is laughable. Incomings have been ok though nowhere near enough
It's only one game but it was probably even twice as silly to have called it a smash hit success before a ball was kicked. Like we've really started giving the club credit for simply completing deals, when that was never really our issue. Woodward signed so many galacticos including Sancho. The issue was everything else around the transfer. Unimaginative targets, inflated prices, misdiagnosing our squad needs etc. Last season for example the extra cash we paid for buying Antony and Casemiro so late could have funded a third transfer if we had acted on time.
100%, but gag on discussions until outcome of investigation.
Kante is only a year older. Similar roleCase is only 31, ffs.
Maybe we sign Arnautovic still
Haha. I remember that.
There were multiple posters who were absolutely dead set on Ole being our DoF. It was like some people had had voodoo performed on them which made them have these strange ideas.
Since leaving MUFC, my understanding is that he has not managed another team and has definitely not been offered a role as DoF.
Without doubt, in his last season, he was the worst manager in the EPL. Not a single fan of any EPL team would want to swap their manager for ours (Ole).
Anyway, back on topic...
I'm convinced Murtough is a plant. He came to club in 2013 and everything has turned to shit since.
Hired by Moyes. Enough said.
Sure, we know they are here, I don’t expect a lot of new players. There are obviously people who think we have had a terrible window because of a lot of players we haven’t sold (yet), so for them, it’s an apt reminder methinks.
Further, we can ahve an ide about what we hoped for as fans, and who has come in, but to me at leadt, the success of a transfer window will show itself over the next coming seasons. Many felt that getting Pogba, Mikhitarian, Bailly and Zlatan made for a historically good window. Or when we got Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Martial and Depay, many touted it as a great window - now it’s frequently mentioned as Van Gaals greatest failure. The proof of the pudding will not be in the looking, but in the eating.
A bit early to make a decision on this. Hojlund hasn't even played; striker has been a massive hole that has needed filling. Mount has played one game. Onana has played one game.
The jury is still out but I’m a bit disappointed with it. I think the two major problems we had last season was recklessly giving the ball away and also not being clinical enough. With some of the players we got, I can’t say these problems won’t still be here
Its not a great success at the moment. However, there is still time to bring in a defensive midfielder and a defender and sell some of the players we are trying to get rid of.
It's fine, we just needed more, but with the Glazers still stinking the place out, and us not been able to move on the mistakes of our previous managers, then we are going to need another couple of windows for Erik to get the sqaud he wants, so still work in progress.
We are one injury away (Casemiro) to a complete melt down already even at this stage of the season.
You expect Casemiro to do 60 games a season? Ok good luck with that.
It's depth, the 1st XI cannot play every game. Amrabat is an affordable rotation option, it would make sense. We cannot spend 50m on 10 players a season like Chelsea for a full rebuild
Promised by who ? We haven't sold the players we needed to so the coffers are empty. Even if we did we certainly don't have 140m to blow on one striker like Osinhem.
Bugger the coffers, it should have been the priority! It was a far more pressing need than Onana, irrespective of how he improves the team. He isn’t going to score the goals to close the gap on City.
How does that improve us and stop us from seeing what we saw the other night? Having a better sub DM than we already have is nice, but everyone fit, our first XI is massively flawed. The fact that people see having a good substitute as some sort of solution is odd.
After spending near another £200m, what is your quick fix solution? I am baffled by the belief some on here feel we have of a large budget to freely spend on large fees.
Or is the simple answer is: there is none, accept we are fooked and enjoy shit football for a season?
we won't know until we see how the team does this year, every transfer has plenty of risks
what i do consider a success is we gave the manager the three players he needed and plugged the major gaps, and fairly efficiently too.. if you were being picky you could say defensive midfield needs to be addressed too, and hopefully they can still do that
but the proof is in the pudding
what i do consider a success is we gave the manager the three players he needed and plugged the major gaps, and fairly efficiently too.. if you were being picky you could say defensive midfield needs to be addressed too, and hopefully they can still do that
but the proof is in the pudding
It is a relatively succesful window if you focus on what the club needed and NOT what the other clubs and their owners allowed them to spend on:
1. We needed a GK with a different style than DDG : we got the best one available
2. We needed a backup to Bruno (played non stop last season) and another midfielder : we got a proven PL player in Mount who can play in all midfield places should we need him to and he fits Ten Hags play style of high energy pressing up front, and we got him for cheap if you consider other midfielders that were signed by other clubs
3. We needed a CF : we got one of the best non donkey CF talent. We overpaid but not to the extreme degree but its understandable considering the shortage of good CFs in the market
Thats a good window compared to our previous ones. Spending feckton on luxuries (fee+wages) might have looked good back then but they all left the club for peanuts and most contributed feck all. Thats the reality of it.
1. We needed a GK with a different style than DDG : we got the best one available
2. We needed a backup to Bruno (played non stop last season) and another midfielder : we got a proven PL player in Mount who can play in all midfield places should we need him to and he fits Ten Hags play style of high energy pressing up front, and we got him for cheap if you consider other midfielders that were signed by other clubs
3. We needed a CF : we got one of the best non donkey CF talent. We overpaid but not to the extreme degree but its understandable considering the shortage of good CFs in the market
Thats a good window compared to our previous ones. Spending feckton on luxuries (fee+wages) might have looked good back then but they all left the club for peanuts and most contributed feck all. Thats the reality of it.
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Not sure that’s ‘picky’. I look at the squad and there are some glaring weaknesses. Personally, I think we still need 2 midfielders and one centre forward, and that’s assuming we leave right back to next summer. If I was being picky I’d strengthen right back and centre back now as well.
After a game, I can safely say that the window is ......
The window peaked with West Ham’s double bid for Maguire and Scott.
Our biggest problem last year was goals. Imo we’ve still not rectified that. Happy with the Onana deal, mount is a good player in his own right but he’s not what the team needed imo and hojlund scored 9 goals in 32 games in a lesser league. Obviously he has potential but that doesn’t improve us right now.
We would have been in a much stronger position had we used the mount/hojlund money to sign Kane/Osimen
We would have been in a much stronger position had we used the mount/hojlund money to sign Kane/Osimen
We were told there was a net budget of 120m and that's roughly what we've spent. The club ballsed it up with the West Ham double offer, but Maguire refusing to leave has really hurt us too.
United will probably have 150 million for transfer for now on so we need to really be spot on with scouting. I think we need to start getting 3-4 cheap potential younger prospects (10-15 million) and spending the rest on 2 main players. We cannot compete with Chelsea, Arsenal or City, even Liverpool is struggling today. I think it is the only way forward. We need to replace Varane, Eriksen, Casemiro and Martial soon followed by Lindeloft and Bruno. We won't have enough fund so we will need bring young signings from 18-20 and give them enough game time their develop.
That depends a lot on what happen with the sale. It's either that or financial doping, and reliable (financially) sugar daddies are few and far between.
I think that is the needed shift of policy. Means United might slip definitely out to the second tier of the PL (or rather accept that's where we are, objectively) but more sensible, sustainable and possibly less morally compromised.
Turns out to be pretty shit. Onana is very good but feck me we needed so so much more than this useless midget in the middle go the park
We need to decide if ETH is actually the one we are going forward with. Our transfer policy of backing the players ETH wants/wanted will be a costly mistake.
Thankfully, you are not deciding.