Our rival's squads next year - Man City

Well, its kind of like saying, that no youth player will ever get a chance (except some crazy injury crisis hits the team). Iheanacho has Aguero and Bony ahead of him with the option to play sterling in the position. 2 or 3 key players have to be injured, that he´d get a run of games and it is probably not ideal to introduce a youngster to the team, when too many key players are out. Personally I think, that City and Chelsea have two of the most talented youth teams in the world (far more talented than United´s youngsters). It is madness, that they are unable to make room for any of those guys.

It's different though, Lopes is competing for a position that City are already well-stocked in and almost certainly the strongest area in the squad. City could have easily signed another striker to replace Dzeko and Jovetic but they didn't, they put faith in Iheanacho and he will be given chances this season, he's been on the bench for all the games and came on against Watford. Once the CL is underway and the cup competitions the games start coming thick and fast and rotation will become necessary. If Lopes was a CM or a full-back we would not have sold him, for example, as those are positions that need addressing in the near future.
 
I don't see why everyone is so complementary over them. Sure, they've had a stellar start to the season but in all honesty the prem's levels at the moment are pretty low. If the played barca tomorrow I'd still expect them to be in for a spanking.

Until they start playing with a proper 3 man midfield I don't think they'll ever match up to Europe's elites. Plus their defenders are pretty mediocre on the ball which means they are vulnerable to being pressed.

The money the spent on KDB, Otamendi and Sterling was ridiculous too. Yeah, sterling gives them pace wide, but that pace in a forward line us useless if its not married with productivity. KDB gives them something I guess, not sure what it is exactly. Toure still can't defend. Hart still can't kick. They are wrongly still not using Bony. In the prem where they can rollover teams, this stuff works, but it won't make you one of the best teams in europe.

We saw chelsea with a similar fast start last season and PSG made them look amateurish when they came into town. What I don't understand is how a club with so much resources can't exactly pin point where their issues are.
 
Congrats on the title City. 3 in 5 years.

Well and truly the dominant team in English football thesedays. Nevermind just in Manchester.

How we've let this happen, I'll never know.
 
Congrats on the title City. 3 in 5 years.

Well and truly the dominant team in English football thesedays. Nevermind just in Manchester.

How we've let this happen, I'll never know.
You fecking drama queen :lol:
 
Congrats on the title City. 3 in 5 years.

Well and truly the dominant team in English football thesedays. Nevermind just in Manchester.

How we've let this happen, I'll never know.

They are looking like they will walk the league with ease.
 
But.. but.. I thought everyone was so sure City were finished.
 
Disagree with any of it?

Or do we have to pretend like City don't count on here?
I don't disagree with them looking the dominant team, but when you post something that makes you sound like you're sitting at your desk sobbing because they scored a late winner in the fifth (!) game of the season makes me think you're a bit of a drama queen about it all.
 
The most impressive thing is their defence so far imo. Zero conceded and they've played some tough games.
 
It's their defence that is the bit surprise. City were always great in attack, but they've gone from incredibly ropey to completely solid.
 
I don't disagree with them looking the dominant team, but when you post something that makes you sound like you're sitting at your desk sobbing because they scored a late winner in the fifth (!) game of the season makes me think you're a bit of a drama queen about it all.

I'm not going to lie, watching them stroll to another title is going to be very painful. We're so far behind them its ridiculous.

So yeah, it makes me angry.
 
Usual drama queens here. City were poor today they got lucky at the end if Gayle had took the chance Zaha put on a plate for him 2 minutes before it could have been game over. They got the luck today but looked poor without Sterling and Silva. And Aguero now injured so lets not get carried away.
 
I'm not going to lie, watching them stroll to another title is going to be very painful. We're so far behind them its ridiculous.

So yeah, it makes me angry.
Fair enough. How many times have we seen Chelsea steamroll everything in their way for the first two months of the season before getting back to a 'regular' pace?

Doesn't look good at the moment for us, but I'd wait a little bit longer to see where they're really at.
 
Fair enough. How many times have we seen Chelsea steamroll everything in their way for the first two months of the season before getting back to a 'regular' pace?

Doesn't look good at the moment for us, but I'd wait a little bit longer to see where they're really at.
Even if they slow down a bit there attack with Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne, sterling and yaya is just so far ahead
 
Usual drama queens here. City were poor today they got lucky at the end if Gayle had took the chance Zaha put on a plate for him 2 minutes before it could have been game over. They got the luck today but looked poor without Sterling and Silva. And Aguero now injured so lets not get carried away.
So they looked poor without 3 of their best players. Well that's a relief. Agueros injury wasn't even that bad and he will probably be back for the next game
 
Unfortunately, they already look like champions. Hopefully I'll regret saying that at the end of the season.
 
So they looked poor without 3 of their best players. Well that's a relief. Agueros injury wasn't even that bad and he will probably be back for the next game
Zabaleta was missing too so 4 of their best players.
 
So they looked poor without 3 of their best players. Well that's a relief. Agueros injury wasn't even that bad and he will probably be back for the next game

We're five games in calm down.

How you can say Aguero and a knee injury isn't that bad the guy is plagued with them.
 
Odd as this sounds I think we can match their defensive qualities. Our midfield is perfectly fine in comparison or even better on paper.

But we're going to have make one or two big signings to catch up in terms of attack and quality on the ball. You list their attacking/playmaking options out and the class is obvious. With us we've got a lot of work-in-progress', players not quite top players etc. So, yeah, next summer let's raise the level of our attack and let's match them and take back Manchester.
 
5 PL games without conceding is very impressive. I can actually see them challenging for the CL this year.
 
5 PL games without conceding is very impressive. I can actually see them challenging for the CL this year.

Yaya's going to have to do much better in the CL for that to happen.

Every year people say City will do better in the CL, but they never do. I'd be very surprised if they made the semi-finals.
 
Yaya's going to have to do much better in the CL for that to happen.

Every year people say City will do better in the CL, but they never do. I'd be very surprised if they made the semi-finals.

I don't think such a thing should merit surprise - after the top 3 (Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern) they probably have best team/squad in the competition. A good showing in Europe is just a matter of time.
 
I don't think such a thing should merit surprise - after the top 3 (Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern) they probably have best team/squad in the competition. A good showing in Europe is just a matter of time.

It's amazing how poor they've been in Europe when you think about it. Will certainly be interesting how they do this season.

I do agree that after the top 3, they probably do have the best team/squad. They don't have the easiest of groups. Would be funny if they struggled in the group stages again.
 
If they do not meet Real/Barca/Bayern before the semi's I fully expect them to be the fourth team. I think they can handle PSG over 2 legs and the rest too.
 
Usual drama queens here. City were poor today they got lucky at the end if Gayle had took the chance Zaha put on a plate for him 2 minutes before it could have been game over. They got the luck today but looked poor without Sterling and Silva. And Aguero now injured so lets not get carried away.
And you call us bitters? If it'd happened to utd we'd be getting 'that's the sign of champions' headlines rammed down our throat. We do it and we're lucky. Sometimes you have to give a team credit for fighting to the end. We did that yesterday.
 
And you call us bitters? If it'd happened to utd we'd be getting 'that's the sign of champions' headlines rimmed down our throat. We do and we're lucky. Sometimes you have to give a team credit for fighting to the end. We did that yesterday.
You have a point , there is a need here to write City off ..It happened last season too..Sometimes it doesnt hurt to give credit where credit is due..I wont lie , the first thing I thought when I heard of the last minute winner was that this was typical United under Fergie..winnning when not at your best.
 
They might walk the league but Pelegrini will have to do very very well in the champions league to stop Guardiola getting his job next summer.
 
You have a point , there is a need here to write City off ..It happened last season too..Sometimes it doesnt hurt to give credit where credit is due..I wont lie , the first thing I thought when I heard of the last minute winner was that this was typical United under Fergie..winnning when not at your best.
I'd put it down to the rivalry. It's the same on bluemoon. Utd don't get any credit for anything which you'd understand on a city forum but sometimes you have to give credit where it's due. Fergie had that last minute winner mentality engrained into the players minds. We're heading that way hopefully.
 
I'd put it down to the rivalry. It's the same on bluemoon. Utd don't get any credit for anything which you'd understand on a city forum but sometimes you have to give credit where it's due. Fergie had that last minute winner mentality engrained into the players minds. We're heading that way hopefully.
Yes, but refusing to see what is in front of you is just stupid. You guys are very good side, I dont particularly like that and wouldn't mind you back in the 3rd division :D, but the truth is that you are most likely here to stay, and I would much rather see United back challenging, and because it will involve beating you guys , it will make it sweeter, but It doesn't mean that we should pretend that you aren't very good now.
 
And you call us bitters? If it'd happened to utd we'd be getting 'that's the sign of champions' headlines rammed down our throat. We do it and we're lucky. Sometimes you have to give a team credit for fighting to the end. We did that yesterday.

I think you will find most teams fight to the end in this league, especially at 0-0 i'd be surprised to see a City team settle for a point at Palace so not going to give them credit for that.

The only thing that worries me slightly is that they got the luck, they've been good in the other games but yesterday luck was with them, you need that to win a title. I fully expect things to fall apart at some point in the season though as the issues from last year are still there.
 
Id still feel confident we would beat them even if we played then now. Our midfield would outcompete theirs just like last season and their defence is still pretty poor they just haven't really been pressured yet. I really do think people are going overboard with their praise and i'm not convinced the league will be as uncontested as people think. If they win then it will certainly be all down to their attacking players which tbf are the best in the league, but it will be entertaining to see them found out in Europe as the average team they really are.
 
You have a point , there is a need here to write City off ..It happened last season too..Sometimes it doesnt hurt to give credit where credit is due..I wont lie , the first thing I thought when I heard of the last minute winner was that this was typical United under Fergie..winnning when not at your best.
There's a difference between 'writing them off' (who is doing that here) and saying it's premature to crown them champions after 5 games. They've been brilliant so far, but it's a long season and many things could disrupt it. No one is writing them off, they're the biggest challenge this year and may well win the league, but let's not go overboard just yet.
 
Id still feel confident we would beat them even if we played then now. Our midfield would outcompete theirs just like last season and their defence is still pretty poor they just haven't really been pressured yet. I really do think people are going overboard with their praise and i'm not convinced the league will be as uncontested as people think. If they win then it will certainly be all down to their attacking players which tbf are the best in the league, but it will be entertaining to see them found out in Europe as the average team they really are.
The biggest difference to now and last season is Yaya Toure..if he is on form, then City are deadly..its not like we havent found that out plenty of times in the past...Last season he looked finished, but he seems to have gotten the swagger back..

They are very good, not Barca or Madrid good..but no team in the premiership is.