Our Rivals Squad's next year - Liverpool 2015/2016

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I actually think, that firmino could play as #9 for you. That would work well with your current style. Buying a better central forward is actually pretty difficult. Bacca is almost 29. Imo slightly too old for his price-tag. I think much more important is to buy another midfielder. During the last two years your defence sucked, because the midfield never properly shielded them. You need a clear-cut DM to balance your team. Illara comes to mind, who would be a fantastic transfer for you. Milner, Can and Henderson are all the same: Hard working all-action midfielder, who need someone behind them. Playing 2 of those three in front of Illara with 3 out of coutinho, Sterling, firmino and lallana as front 3 would be a great line-up.
Up to this point your transfer decision were spot on. Still that will all be for nothing, if Rodgers decides against signing a proper DM.....
Put it this way I'd rather have Firmino upfront than Benteke, nothing against Benteke I'm sure he'd be excellent for say a Chelsea, but for us it would mean altering our style significantly to get the best out of one player rather than buying a player who fits in with the rest of the team and elevates them. In terms of a DM, Rodgers has never actually ever signed one in his entire tenure here no reason to think he will start now, someone like Kondogbia would have been ideal, Lucas will do an ample job when fit (statistically,defensively only Matic and Coquelin are better) but it seems to me like Rodgers stumbles in to playing him there every season rather than it being out of choice, I think as you say someone like Illaramendi would be his ideal player in a holding role.
The main issue that still has to be addressed is the back four, signing different players isn't going to improve it by itself. There needs to be a coherent strategy in place, do we play with a high line or do we drop deep and the whole team needs to be accustomed to either method, not like last season where we had Sakho and Moreno playing on the front foot and Johnson and Skrtel dropping deep. It leaves massive gaps between the midfield and defence which were and have been consistently exploited in a Rodgers back four.
 
Put it this way I'd rather have Firmino upfront than Benteke, nothing against Benteke I'm sure he'd be excellent for say a Chelsea, but for us it would mean altering our style significantly to get the best out of one player rather than buying a player who fits in with the rest of the team and elevates them. In terms of a DM, Rodgers has never actually ever signed one in his entire tenure here no reason to think he will start now, someone like Kondogbia would have been ideal, Lucas will do an ample job when fit (statistically,defensively only Matic and Coquelin are better) but it seems to me like Rodgers stumbles in to playing him there every season rather than it being out of choice, I think as you say someone like Illaramendi would be his ideal player in a holding role.
The main issue that still has to be addressed is the back four, signing different players isn't going to improve it by itself. There needs to be a coherent strategy in place, do we play with a high line or do we drop deep and the whole team needs to be accustomed to either method, not like last season where we had Sakho and Moreno playing on the front foot and Johnson and Skrtel dropping deep. It leaves massive gaps between the midfield and defence which were and have been consistently exploited in a Rodgers back four.
i agree with almost everything you say. I just want to add, that defence lines often look shaky when the team plays fairly gung-ho. Adding a defensive midfielder is the easiest way to change that, but its probably not going to happen. Coquelin and Arsenal are a great example of that.
If you play with 2 out of Henderson/Can/Milner/Lucas in a 4231 system you´ll leak too much goal for top4.
 
Good, early transfer business from Pool this time round. Ings, Milner, Clyne are all PL proven safe buys who will definitely improve the team. Firmino has a lot of potential, we were excited about him. Now if they get Benteke and one of Kovacic or Illarramendi, they would have an excellent team to compete for top four, which is as good as saying that they have an excellent chance of dumping a Manchester team out of the CL spots.

Let's hope Sturridge keeps his tryst with injuries, and that City do buy Sterling off them, at least.
 
Mignolet
Clyne - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Can
Milner - Firmino - Coutinho
Benteke

Couple of players in depth à la Lovren, Allen, Lallana, Ibe as well as Markovic.

Thoughts?
 
Mignolet
Clyne - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Can
Milner - Firmino - Coutinho
Benteke

Couple of players in depth à la Lovren, Allen, Lallana, Ibe as well as Markovic.

Thoughts?

Aren't both Henderson and can box to box?
 
Mignolet
Clyne - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
Henderson - Can
Milner - Firmino - Coutinho
Benteke

Couple of players in depth à la Lovren, Allen, Lallana, Ibe as well as Markovic.

Thoughts?

Sturridge? Ings? Lucas? Coates? Quite a few more to add to the squad-list. Even Lambert and Balotelli for now (both may see the exit door though).

Looks pretty decent to be honest. They're filling out the squad better than they did when Súarez was sold (assuming City will eventually fork out around £50m for Sterling). I'm still unsure if it's going to be enough to allow them to challenge for the top four as I think Chelsea and Arsenal are both stronger, while City and ourselves I believe will make good enough signings to keep our first-team and squad well ahead. It may come down to how Liverpool approach the season and if they are to simply forgo the Europa League in favour of a top four challenge. Depending on who they ship out this window though, they may have the kind of second-string squad that could easily make the knock-outs.

Always too early to say these things, but fun to speculate. I'd definitely have them as at least 5th place certs going off business so far for next season, way ahead of Spurs, Southampton, Everton, Swansea etc.
 
Good, early transfer business from Pool this time round. Ings, Milner, Clyne are all PL proven safe buys who will definitely improve the team. Firmino has a lot of potential, we were excited about him. Now if they get Benteke and one of Kovacic or Illarramendi, they would have an excellent team to compete for top four, which is as good as saying that they have an excellent chance of dumping a Manchester team out of the CL spots.

Let's hope Sturridge keeps his tryst with injuries, and that City do buy Sterling off them, at least.
Yeah I think it's heading towards becoming a very good summer from them. They've bought dependable, solid performers and could end up with a few potential gems in between.

I'm just hoping we have an even better one, given our pulling power, so that we can further extend the gap from last year. And of course that none of their signings actually turns into a quality player and they're all mostly decent or goodish.
 
Yeah I think it's heading towards becoming a very good summer from them. They've bought dependable, solid performers and could end up with a few potential gems in between.

I'm just hoping we have an even better one, given our pulling power, so that we can further extend the gap from last year. And of course that none of their signings actually turns into a quality player and they're all mostly decent or goodish.

With Schneiderlin and another CM incoming, with our links with Sergio Ramos and Otamendi, and with Depay, we would already have a stronger squad. Considering this is LVG's second season, we would be off to a better start than last time, too. We'll do better this season, I think. And so will Liverpool.

City is the one who needs to be a bit concerned here. They haven't made changes to their aging squad, they are short on home-grown players, and some of their best players (Yaya and Komany) seem to have gone a step down last season. There's only so far Aguero and Silva will take you.
 
With Schneiderlin and another CM incoming, with our links with Sergio Ramos and Otamendi, and with Depay, we would already have a stronger squad. Considering this is LVG's second season, we would be off to a better start than last time, too. We'll do better this season, I think. And so will Liverpool.

City is the one who needs to be a bit concerned here. They haven't made changes to their aging squad, they are short on home-grown players, and some of their best players (Yaya and Komany) seem to have gone a step down last season. There's only so far Aguero and Silva will take you.
I think they'll improve a fair bit as well this summer. Sterling would be a great addition and I expect them to improve elsewhere too.

Will be an interesting summer. Liverpool have made a good start, as have we with Depay and possibly Schneiderlin, and Arsenal look set to be making a very big step with Cech. One can't see City not making a big splash either. They'll get Sterling who is an excellent buy. I think we could see many teams get better this summer, but we'll obviously have to see who improves by how much.
 
I think they'll improve a fair bit as well this summer. Sterling would be a great addition and I expect them to improve elsewhere too.

Will be an interesting summer. Liverpool have made a good start, as have we with Depay and possibly Schneiderlin, and Arsenal look set to be making a very big step with Cech. One can't see City not making a big splash either. They'll get Sterling who is an excellent buy. I think we could see many teams get better this summer, but we'll obviously have to see who improves by how much.

Will Sterling really be an excellent buy? That's a debatable question.
Also, where else will they improve drastically? I don't think they'll beat Barcelona to Pogba or us to Sergio Ramos. The only other English star they can get is Wilshere, and despite being a great player he's a crock. I don't see any other singular additions to their team who can make a huge difference. They need a squad overhaul, and build their team around their best players.
 
To be fair, Clyne is a good signing at that price. Easy to say from the outside looking in but I would have thought Southampton could have demanded another 5/6m on the £12.5m fee.

Liverpool making some good, early signings and will have a much stronger squad this year. I have not seen much of Firmino but from what I've read I have a bad feeling he is going to be a key player for them.
 
Will Sterling really be an excellent buy? That's a debatable question.
Also, where else will they improve drastically? I don't think they'll beat Barcelona to Pogba or us to Sergio Ramos. The only other English star they can get is Wilshere, and despite being a great player he's a crock. I don't see any other singular additions to their team who can make a huge difference. They need a squad overhaul, and build their team around their best players.
He's one of the bets young players around. Look at our own wankfest over depay.
 
He's one of the bets young players around. Look at our own wankfest over depay.
He is, but we need a player like Depay a lot more than City need a player like Sterling right now, and he's also likely to be double the cost of Depay. City don't have an infinite budget so it's definitely a questionable purchase.
 
He is, but we need a player like Depay a lot more than City need a player like Sterling right now, and he's also likely to be double the cost of Depay. City don't have an infinite budget so it's definitely a questionable purchase.
That's debatable. I'm assuming you think that we needed a goalscoring wide player. On the other hand, city's options when it comes to wide players, or pacey midfielders who can beat a man is worse and as bad as ours respectively. We've at least got a player in Di Maria who can do all of that and has done so for years. They have Jesus Navas. And Silva spends most of his time in the middle and is a playmaker. The need for a dribbling midfielder/wide player is there IMO at City.
 
I think they'll improve a fair bit as well this summer. Sterling would be a great addition and I expect them to improve elsewhere too.

Will be an interesting summer. Liverpool have made a good start, as have we with Depay and possibly Schneiderlin, and Arsenal look set to be making a very big step with Cech. One can't see City not making a big splash either. They'll get Sterling who is an excellent buy. I think we could see many teams get better this summer, but we'll obviously have to see who improves by how much.
That's what I was thinking about this morning. A lot of it is on the basis of transfer talk rather than actual transfers so we'll have to see how it pans out ultimately, but it looks like the league could be much more competitive next year, which would be great.
 
That's debatable. I'm assuming you think that we needed a goalscoring wide player. On the other hand, city's options when it comes to wide players, or pacey midfielders who can beat a man is worse and as bad as ours respectively. We've at least got a player in Di Maria who can do all of that and has done so for years. They have Jesus Navas. And Silva spends most of his time in the middle and is a playmaker. The need for a dribbling midfielder/wide player is there IMO at City.
I'm not really saying they don't need Sterling. I'm saying 50 million is an incredible fee for a player who won't improve them as much as Depay (half the price) will improve us. A goalscoring wide player is exactly what we need, by the way, given how poor our goal return was from our strikers last season. I'd say City need a goalscoring wide player too actually, when Aguero isn't on form they can be very short of goals, and Sterling isn't a very good goalscorer at the moment.

Sterling is a great young talent but I think for that amount of money you need to be improving your first XI more than City will with him.
 
Bit surprised we're not in for Illarramendi if he's available he was so highly regarded in spanish league, all he's done is gone to Real and not had opportunities. Not sure why he wouldnt be wanted. Would like him to be linked with us
 
Bit surprised we're not in for Illarramendi if he's available he was so highly regarded in spanish league, all he's done is gone to Real and not had opportunities. Not sure why he wouldnt be wanted. Would like him to be linked with us

He's had only one top level season in his career. Done absolutely nothing since moving to Real Madrid, you're right not to want him.
 
The source is junk, and the story is no doubt nonsense... But if we did sign Higuain :drool: We'd be looking bloody good on paper.
 
The source is junk, and the story is no doubt nonsense... But if we did sign Higuain :drool: We'd be looking bloody good on paper.

Higuain is the striker I want us to sign over all the ones we're linked too, but not going to happen. Arsenal would probably nudge in before and the Napoli owner will demand stupid money for him anyway.
 
Clyne confirmed then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33344772

Good signing at that price. He is better than Glen Johnson was and is probably on lower wages too. He's up there with the likes of Coleman, Baines, Gibbs at the level just below the top full backs in the league.
 
Liverpool have been very busy in the transfer market, both them and Bournemouth have six each I think.
 
Who are the ones at the top level? Cos we should be targeting them (the right sided ones).

In my opinion Ivanovic and Azpilicueta are the two best right sided, albeit the latter normally playing left back he's naturally right sided. Zabaleta too.

None of those are available. Coleman, Bellerin, & Debuchy are probably the best of what's left. I wouldn't think the later two are available, and Everton would probably sting us a ridiculous fee for Coleman.
 
Clyne confirmed then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33344772

Good signing at that price. He is better than Glen Johnson was and is probably on lower wages too. He's up there with the likes of Coleman, Baines, Gibbs at the level just below the top full backs in the league.

I'd rather sign Coleman, but as you say, Clyne is a huge upgrade on Johnson for a modest fee and much lower wages. A good signing for us.
 
In my opinion Ivanovic and Azpilicueta are the two best right sided, albeit the latter normally playing left back he's naturally right sided. Zabaleta too.

None of those are available. Coleman, Bellerin, & Debuchy are probably the best of what's left. I wouldn't think the later two are available, and Everton would probably sting us a ridiculous fee for Coleman.
Clyne isn't a level below those players.
 
In my opinion Ivanovic and Azpilicueta are the two best right sided, albeit the latter normally playing left back he's naturally right sided. Zabaleta too.

None of those are available. Coleman, Bellerin, & Debuchy are probably the best of what's left. I wouldn't think the later two are available, and Everton would probably sting us a ridiculous fee for Coleman.
Was Ramos available?
 
I'd rather we had tried to sign Darmian, but I'm happy with Clyne as well, especially at such a decent fee. At only 24 years old, hopefully that's our RB position sorted for the next five years.

Now let's sign a striker and a midfielder and we've done our business (early for a change).
 
I'd rather we had tried to sign Darmian, but I'm happy with Clyne as well, especially at such a decent fee. At only 24 years old, hopefully that's our RB position sorted for the next five years.

Now let's sign a striker and a midfielder and we've done our business (early for a change).

Who would be your prefered choices? Which midfield position?
 
Who would be your prefered choices? Which midfield position?
Kovacic would be an exciting signing but we should aim for a DM who protects our defence and provides a good connection to the midfield. Of course, someone like Schneiderlin or Witsel would be perfect for that role but that's never going to happen. I would've loved Nainggolan as well although he's more of a box-to-box guy but it seems that's impossible as well. I don't have a clue as to who it's going to be, but we definitely need one.

As for the striker, there are still a lot of good players out there who're attainable. Bacca (despite his age), Benteke (despite the quoted price), Martial (more of a gamble but worth a punt), Lacazette, Jackson Martinez and Higuain (not gonna happen), and probably plenty of others. We do need one though, Sturridge isn't even fit for the start of the season and we can't have Ings as our primary option if we want to be genuine competitors for top four. Firmino can do a job up front as well but I'd rather see him behind the striker alongside Coutinho.
 
With the Clyne signing, what's going to happen with Manquillo? Is he going back to Atletico or staying?
 
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