Some of that lot have to be up to their guts in it though.
Unless you think everything was the owner's doing.
Omar Berrada | Man Utd CEO
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Some of that lot have to be up to their guts in it though.
Unless you think everything was the owner's doing.
We already paid him top bill and he was top man.
There was nowhere else to go even if he was moderately able.
For what purpose would INEOS need to use Manchester United?
Finally someone is asking the tough questions. Blud was a carpenter and had no experience as a messiah.
It's hard to say if we could have done better. Always a possibility, but considering reality - I am surprised how well we did, resume-wise.
Now time to see what it means in realityNot a shred of evidence of that being the case.
Well written. My suspicion is that this whole coordination has been hampered from the top down at Utd since well before Ferguson and Gill quit. I buy that we have invested in some managers and players not at the top of the charts in this times, but I don’t buy that we have systematically found duds for all roles. Rather, I believe the culture coming from the top and the set up and matching up of personell has been so badly done that probably no manager or group of players would have made a huge deal of change on the years we have seen. If this is correct, it would probably mean we are a couple of years away from settling with a new top-down implemented culture.
No of course not. I am just guessing that the owner and whoever is responsible for the club from the Abu Dhabi side is much more responsible and would have shielded the football side as much as possible. There's no doubt everyone at that club knows how doctored it all is. They probably just didn't care because they were winning.
Ed Woodward began working for PricewaterhouseCoopers in the accounting and tax advisory department in 1993, before joining J.P. Morgan & Co. as an investment banker in the mergers and acquisitions department in 1999. He got involved with United. In 2005, Woodward advised Malcolm Glazer and the Glazer family during its successful takeover of Manchester United. The Glazer family then recruited Woodward to join the club in a "financial planning" role.
In 2007, Woodward was given charge of the commercial and media operations of Manchester United. It was in this role that Woodward is credited for United's success in tying up lucrative sponsorship deals with companies around the world.
Woodward was appointed to the board of directors and named executive vice-chairman of Manchester United in 2012. After the retirement of CEO David Gill the following year, Woodward was promoted to the top operational role at Old Trafford in a restructuring of the club's boardroom
Omar Berrada has been involved in football since 2004 when he was appointed as head of sponsorship at Barcelona. Since then he went up the ranks from Manchester China forum to Head of International Business development, Director of Partnership sales, Senior VP Group Commercial Director and COO. He then moved from Manchester City to City football group (ie the main company) to become Chief Football Operations Officer.
In layman terms Omar Berrada was successful at 2 clubs and is now successful in managing the parent company who owns around 12 clubs in 3 different continents. Woodward couldn't even manage Manchester United
The need of dragging United into present time by creating new roles and hiring top people were known for years. The Glazers knew about it and that's the reason why they created the DOF and technical director role after years of pressure from the fans. Unfortunately the Glazers shortsightedness in thinking that money will keep flowing in no matter what + their paranoia in micromanaging everything lead to them always hiring either from within or unqualified people who were simply too grateful for the role to push for a change. Its said that when the DOF role was created, all reputable DOF's turned us down because they didn't want to be mere placeholders and pen pushers.
Its a shame because football and money often work hand by hand. If we're successful on the pitch then the coffers will be filled in no time
And it's fecking tedious and grating, it's like they want the club to fail.
We could go on to win the league this season and some would still moan like feck.
Happens regularly. The bigger name/brand will always hold a bigger appeal. Look at how many players left winning teams to join Real Madrid that hadn’t gotten past the last 16 of CL for 6 years.
Kaka left Ac Milan who were still a top European team, Alonso left Liverpool (beat RM comfortably in the CL) , Ronaldo left United (equal brand but most likely better lifestyle in Madrid)
The CEO is the absolute top of the pyramid. Money play a huge deal in football so he'll need to be able to bring as much money towards the club as possible. On the other hand he'll also have to make sure that the football side is not neglected.
One of my concerns about Blanc was that while he's a beast commercial wise he seem to lack the football acumen to understand when tough decisions need to be taken at football level. That what happened at Juve were his inability to change the DOF and make some tough decisions at Fitness team level ultimately costed him his role as CEO there. This doesn't seem to be the case with Berrada who had taken some tough decisions (ex the Maguire deal) that proved to be extremely wise football wise.
Agreed. I have been a bit surprised by the reaction. We don’t know how this will turn out. But everything so far is the opposite of how United have done business post SAF. As this has been a deal that should give a great deal of optimism.
We’ve hired a highly rated person who has shown ability and has potential, but also wasn’t an “obvious choice”. We’ve done it without the usual noise and drag on for weeks & months.
FFS amol
The best news for me is the fact that we're seeing the first moves already. Honestly I can't wait for the whole structure being settled and operating, seeing their plans and their first decisions. This is the first time in a very long time I feel genuine hope about things changing at United.
Not in football it doesnt. This is the highest profile jump since Peter Kenyon. There's new challenges and then there is basically leaving the top team in the country for the local rivals. He either believes in Ratcliffe's project or City are in trouble.
This. Normally operations under Glazers would've been a protracted saga with multiple leaks about links to this guy and ultimately we wouldn't have been able to land him at all. Get a DOF in and be ready for the summer.
The crucial decisions for me are:
Will Ten Hag stay / leave? If he leaves, can we get someone of the same promise as an Alonso to be our manager?
Identify transfer targets before the summer window even begins and start approaching the clubs and players. Really don't want a repeat of Sancho saga v1 or FDJ.
Can people stop being positive for feck sake. This isn't the Redcafe we all know and love.
Not for long.. I reckon 3-4 years max.
What concerns do you have? What will they use us for?
Revenue/op profit… Ineos turn over tens of billions a year and gross two to three billion
Value… Ratcliffe is worth about £30Bn (net)
Quick cash take… it was Ratcliffes idea to veto dividends for three years
What is the global, multi income streamed, profitable group and the highly successful/highly rich owner going to use United for?
Or maybe, Ratcliffe is 71, can only increase Ineos/personal value so much now but as a United fan wants to use his/his teams vast experience to sort the club out?
He’s never worked as a CEO before so how can he be an industry leading CEO?
If anything he's taken a demotion. COO is obviously higher than anyone else. Tis the call of the mightiest of birds, after all.He’s never worked as a CEO before so how can he be an industry leading CEO?
We have the biggest wage bill in European football and regularly spend north of 150m per season - that's the basic financial muscle needed to rebuild a club if you know what you are doing. Spearheading a possible resurgence here will be more rewarding than sharing the glory with Pep, Soriano and Txiti.
Where you see a huge challenge, someone confident in his ability sees an opportunity to build a name for himself.
You have to wonder if he fecked over city (155 charges) and city were like, hey, do us a favor?You have to wonder if he knows City are likely fecked
If nobody else leaves City then surely this theory about him knowing something is rubbish.
Let's give it 2 weeks.
Let's give it 2 weeks.
Unless be was the man behind 155 charges ! What’s the ultimate penalty hed face?
Yes, completely agree.
And after all this time ruled by bankers I'm sure we'll appreciate the difference with actual football people at work. I'm really looking forward to it.
Quite a few of them I know reckon he’d better ‘watch his back’. Something about their dictator having the capability to do whatever he wants.
Why not just go for Alonso? Ancelotti has signed a new contract with Real and Klopp won’t be leaving Liverpool so seems like we would have a good chance of getting him (his Liverpool connection aside).
Who is them? Who needs to watch their back?
Side note but god i never realised how badly written the Daily Mail actually is (cos i never read it).
I know people always criticise the agenda it spews, but this is basically unreadable. That bit about the Stone Roses song literally doesn't even make sense
Yea. They must’a gave him the Messian hormone treatment. Sad for you though, losing your blud like that.
Does anyone know what his actual football background is? I understand he has been on the footballing side all his life, but he seems to be handling most of the commercial stuff, money flow, salries, and paying transfer fees.
Where I do think that the most crucial appointment after this is, who will identify the players we want to sign, and who that appointment would be?
I'd love me some Michael Edwards for DOF, or Dean Ashford as a back up option. I know Omar worked on the Haaland and Grealish transfer as reported per Ornstein, but I'm curious how much of say he has in identifying these players, or was it all Soriano selecting them?
Because where this guys CV is strong is 80% commercial background, where we didn't lack behind the competition too much. Where we were abysmal was selecting players(type, age, background, salaries), roster planning and panicking after every bad 2 opening games of the season.
Where I do think that the most crucial appointment after this is, who will identify the players we want to sign, and who that appointment would be?
I'd love me some Michael Edwards for DOF, or Dean Ashford as a back up option. I know Omar worked on the Haaland and Grealish transfer as reported per Ornstein, but I'm curious how much of say he has in identifying these players, or was it all Soriano selecting them?
Because where this guys CV is strong is 80% commercial background, where we didn't lack behind the competition too much. Where we were abysmal was selecting players(type, age, background, salaries), roster planning and panicking after every bad 2 opening games of the season.
He is the one credited for Girona success? Anybody who knows anything towards this claim?
Was Girona under his leadership?
Was Girona under his leadership?
Played a part in all CFG clubs so yes.
It's either that, or he'll be involved in some sort of farcical scandal, like he was caught shitting into a child's lunchbox, or that he dropkicked a family of pigeons. I'm just waiting for it.
Is it really a good idea to run the risk of being infiltrated by a doha/city agent? Not sure it is a clever move.
Are you always this engaging? JFC
I see that, thank you. Still think it's wishful-thinking to think that the senior exec that joined United, just happens to be one of the few not involved in City's feckery. Will wait and see, just hope we didn't make an unpalatable appointment