Now Moyes can have real reason to feel that he was hard done. He succeeded SAF, when people ain’t used to us struggling mid table so he ain’t afforded another year, even though he actually has better CV than Ole, and being the Chosen One.
Ole says this season will be used to find next season’s squad
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Moyes took a championship winning side into midtable and lost the dressing room. Ole will get time because he still has the backing of the players, as hard as it is for some to accept.
The players cant motivate themselves to perform against non top sides, that would help Ole a lot.
We lack real leadership in this squad, a Roy Keane, and its made worse after the departures of winners like Rio. That's why I doubt the likes of Rodgers could do as well as he's doing now with Leicester, it's not just about quality or Vardy vs Rashford, it's about that mentality and grit when things aren't going well. I'm not excusing the manager of course, but problems run deeper than just tactics and motivation.
How motivating is it really to play for top 6 and the EL?
Getting titles should motivate our squad that has barely won anything. For Pogba he might want to aim higher though than what we are fighting for, but he should be motivated to get into form for the Euros.
I can accept that he has their backing - he's the first manager they've had who actually encourages them to be shite and allows them to get away with it. In fact, he rewards them for it.
If you were shite at your day job, which boss would you rather work for?
a) the boss who drags you into his office and tells you you are doing well below par and are facing the sack or
b) the boss who pats you on the back and says "dont worry mate, its fine, give it another go on Monday - have a nice relaxing weekend".
Obviously the latter. No surprises to any of us that this bunch of cowardly players are loving the lack of pressure on them nowadays.
Why does it matter? My point is it isn't realistic to expect him to throw players in there. You have, and none of them are examples of what I asked for.
How often does anyone? Has it never occurred to you there's a reason for that? You seem to have completely lost track of the point of this conversation in a desperate attempt to prove me wrong. I'm not suggesting Ole is some kind of trailblazer mate.
This. What's the point of having the players' backing if the results are worse than those of the previous manager who DIDN'T have the players' backing?
(This isn't an argument for keeping Mourinho - just pointing out the fallacy of this common pro-Ole talking point)
In one years time, I'm farily certain that with Ole in charge we'll in be here in December 2020 hearing the same thing.
Pathetic excuse of a manager. Basically ending the season before the halfway mark. But that’s what happens when you put incompetence in power and make it unanswerable to its failure.
Top post, good man.
Not sure what all the fuss is about, he's obvious told the players, or some of them, in-house that a lot of the performances are well below the required standard at United and they are basically playing for their futures at the club, now he's just reassuring the fans that is the case. That and confirming that he will still be the Manager next season obviously.
Nothing about this confirms he'll be the manager next season. You can't ensure those things. He might even be sacked before the season ends.
I thought March-May was the time when he was telling players they were playing for their futures. I guess if it doesn't work first time around, you do it again. And then again if that doesn't work...
This is it, if Ole isn't fired I'd feel confident this exact same charade would be playing out again in December 2020.
United around 8-10th in the league, terrible run of form, and Ole buying another season of time by claiming "he's deciding who's not going to be here next season" like that's not a task every other manager above him in the league is also doing, on the fly. Without it being the sole focus of their season.
Don't bite, the guys a troll. He loves to spin everything into a positive and how Ole is going a great job.
Careful, your mask is slipping.
Take a quote out of context, interpret it in the worst way possible, bash Ole. Some things never change.
Surely every season is used to judge the squad for the following season. Those no longer good bough are sold, those who impress get bumped up etc.
Why is this even news???
Why is this even news???
Then it will be a busy transfer-window this summer.. Serious investment is needed, but will Solskjær himself be the one in charge by June 2020.?
And why is Man United in a position around Christmas, where we start focusing on next season. That is not acceptable, and will only give the players an excuse to play like Watford away quite often for the rest of the season. Not good enough..!
And why is Man United in a position around Christmas, where we start focusing on next season. That is not acceptable, and will only give the players an excuse to play like Watford away quite often for the rest of the season. Not good enough..!
Because the outrage merchants on here will take any opportunity to bash Ole.
You sure? If he'd not been assured that his job was safe why come out and say anything.
Maybe there's more that need(ed) to be moved on than he originally thought - not sure he'll get away with it a third time, but he is a club legend so you never know.
Didn’t he said the same thing mast season?
He’s just lowering the expectations trying to lower the pressure on him, he’s a mediocre manager.
He’s just lowering the expectations trying to lower the pressure on him, he’s a mediocre manager.
What mask? I’ve always said his incompetent and would go down as the worse manager in our history. Him being an ex player doesn’t blind me to the fact that he’s a very poor manager. Now I’m disgusted by the fact that in December he’s already written the season off.... the same man who when he was interim was saying “The Champions League is where Man Utd belong”
It’s ironic but if Ed was saying the very things that Ole is saying there’d be outrage. If Ed had hired some league 2 manager and results and performance had been the same there’d be outrage.
I can't even be bothered. I'd rather set myself on fire, in fact.
Your apathy to the decay of the club under Ole leads me to believe that you are a “can’t be bothered, rather set yourself on fire” type
It's apathy in the face of relentless outrage and negativity. I have little issue with criticism of his managerial ability, but I can't fecking stand the never-ending parade of outrage merchants taking his words out of context and interpret it in the worst way possible, then have a go at him for it. Nothing he said suggests he's given up on the season. What the feck is he supposed to have given up on? He'll want to win as many games as possible, but it's clear that this is a squad in transition, and players will be sold. Our main objective is getting back in position to challenge for the league and CL titles, and that was never going to happen this season, so it's only natural that it will, in part, be used to find out which players have a future here.
“That was never going to happen this season”
I’m sure if Leicester had hired Ole instead of us... they’d be doing just as good as they are doing more. Nothing to do with the manager
What did he say?
Not that I needed proof, but it's clear as day that you're just looking for things to be outraged at Ole about. Have fun with that, try not to stroke out.
Why does he want to wait till next season to see who will be in the team and who won’t? He needs to fix the team now.
For example, it’s obvious Lindgard playing at 10 is affecting our attacking football and costing us points, yet Ole has insists with Lingard at 10 game after game after game. This doesn’t give me any confidence Ole is capable to fix the team, either this season or next season or next decade.
Is this Ole’s way of saying we are not getting any players in January?
For example, it’s obvious Lindgard playing at 10 is affecting our attacking football and costing us points, yet Ole has insists with Lingard at 10 game after game after game. This doesn’t give me any confidence Ole is capable to fix the team, either this season or next season or next decade.
Is this Ole’s way of saying we are not getting any players in January?
I mean, the quotes are right there in the article in the OP, and he sure as shit didn't suggest we've given up the season. Unless you're actively looking for things to get angry at him about, in which case saying "we'll use this season to evaluate the players" means that. Because a season can only be used for one thing. You can't evaluate the players and try to do well in the competitions you're in. Apparently.
There is something you don’t need to tell the press, especially that was your your last excuse of a terrible end of last season.
I would leave Mourinho out. Moyes also being butchered by people for being honest and open in the press. How is these quote from Ole motivate the team? It’s up there with desperate Moyes & Mourinho who couldn’t keep it in the the dressing room any more, but going out trying to save their reputation. Why is the double standard?
Is this where somebody reponds with highlights of all the games we dropped points in that we shouldn't be dropping them in?
Its almost like we are a really young team with tons of potential but lack consistency and squad depth.
Or rather we don't have a clue how to break teams down that let us have the ball.Its almost like we are a really young team with tons of potential but lack the consistency.
We have broken down teams - Partizan, Brighton, AZ, Colchester but we don't have 1)The consistency and 2)decent midfield for possession football(Fred and Mctomixnay are good enough for counter attacking but thats about it). Also we've literally not had our best player for most of the season.
I'm really not sure what supporters are expecting with this squad.
Not to be behind newly promoted Sheffield in December going into January?