Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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This mod is picking a really dumb hill to die on. I'm sorry but it's just hilarious ole gets his own special rules on the forums.

I swear I have never seen anything like this. From the board to everyone at the club to the former players to the media. My head is swinging looking at the attempts and lengths people are going for the protection of one man at any cost. I feel like the whole world is turning upside down to protect him.
 
I swear it's something to do with a false adversarial argument. Not read about philosophy in years. Just seems cherry picked. And we see lots of childish put downs to countless players and managers gone by.
Any of them as bad as (paraphrasing) ‘instructor of physical exercise’? Yep… thought not.

Seriously though seems a bit harsh on such people in this profession. What did they ever do to deserve their job being so derogatorily framed its mere mention gets censored? Wonder if any posters here are employed in ‘the role that daren’t be named’ and discovering your day job is deemed more despicable than the most pathetic creature in Lord of the Rings? :lol: I get it’s obviously a hyperbolic slur on Ole, but like ‘fridgehead’ for Maguire’s all fine and everything… Does seem questionable.
 
We have now cleared up the thread after the mess left my Hisha et al.

If anyone gets a warning then take it up with who gave you the warning. You get a notification when you get a warning so you know who to contact. If you don't like the response or you don't get a response (it happens as we get dozen of messages per day each) then politely raise it in the Admin Help forum. If you still don't like it you can message the owner or find somewhere else to post. Good luck with that. Better advice is to suck it up if it doesn't get reversed. This is an internet forum. A few warning points are meaningless in the scheme of things which some posters (like the one who talked himself into a permanent departure while I was asleep) would do well to remember. Posting anywhere else ends up being a car crash thread (In this case a car crash in what was already a dumpster fire of a thread). Complaining that getting a warning for something isn't fair because someone else didn't get a warning previously makes no sense. We don't read every one of the millions of messages that have been posted and often rely on things being reported. A bit like complaining about a speeding ticket because your mate speeds all the time but hasn't been caught.

Any further comment on this issue in this thread will be frowned upon. As @golden_blunder said early on (and Hisha ignored repeatedly) The Admin/Mod help forum is where these things can be raised.
 
They just see him as one of the noisy ones, remember when Ole slagged off some of our fans for being like that
Goldbridge said he recently received threats because of his approach toward the club and the manager's saga. Even if you dont agree with his style and approach and find him silly, it's pathetic to threat someone because of his football views.
 
Oh yeah the usual suspects like Stone, Ducker, Whitwell will be soft as shit and treat him with kid gloves

Yeah, aren’t their questions vetted before the press conference though? And they’d instantly lose their privileges and access if they went hard on Ole. That’s why they’re a waste of time.
 
When you actually look at it this club/board are insane.
We hired a manager that’s biggest achievements was winning the Norway league, 3 years later we have no trophies to show and we have 4/18 points in last 6 games yet he’s still here. Also throw in the fact he spend near 500m
 
Any of them as bad as (paraphrasing) ‘instructor of physical exercise’? Yep… thought not.

Seriously though seems a bit harsh on such people in this profession. What did they ever do to deserve their job being so derogatorily framed its mere mention gets censored? Wonder if any posters here are employed in ‘the role that daren’t be named’ and discovering your day job is deemed more despicable than the most pathetic creature in Lord of the Rings? :lol: I get it’s obviously a hyperbolic slur on Ole, but like ‘fridgehead’ for Maguire’s all fine and everything… Does seem questionable.
Personally, I think it’s disgusting some of the labels people have been throwing at Ole. Those get people to run. Ole hasn’t even achieved that!
 
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When you actually look at it this club/board are insane.
We hired a manager that’s biggest achievements was winning the Norway league, 3 years later we have no trophies to show and we have 4/18 points in last 6 games yet he’s still here. Also throw in the fact he spend near 500m
But the united way is back, everyone is smiling and happy. I think you need to get on board, Ole is at the wheel.

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When you actually look at it this club/board are insane.
We hired a manager that’s biggest achievements was winning the Norway league, 3 years later we have no trophies to show and we have 4/18 points in last 6 games yet he’s still here. Also throw in the fact he spend near 500m
Yeah, also throw in the fact he chased a right winger for two years then bought him for 72m and doesn’t know where to play him. Added to the player he bought for 35m that never plays. How could any sound minded businessman have faith in someone that spends their money like that? It really is staggering when you think about it. There is literally no reason to keep him, other than firing him makes you look stupid for just extending his contract.
 
Goldbridge said he recently received threats because of his approach toward the club and the manager's saga. Even if you dont agree with his style and approach and find him silly, it's pathetic to threat someone because of his football views.
"Goldbridge" is a compulsive liar. I remember him claiming to be a former footballer at a "somewhat high level" years ago when United Stand only had a few hundred subscribers, and it turns out his level was never beyond your average Sunday league team. He also falsely claimed to be a football journalist on Twitter before then. You can't trust anything that guy says.
 
But the united way is back, everyone is smiling and happy. I think you need to get on board, Ole is at the wheel.

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White text never will get me :lol:.Then you add in the fact that pundits especially ones that supposedly love this club and expect high standards are defending him
 
Yeah, also throw in the fact he chased a right winger for two years then bought him for 72m and doesn’t know where to play him. Added to the player he bought for 35m that never plays. How could any sound minded businessman have faith in someone that spends their money like that? It really is staggering when you think about it. There is literally no reason to keep him, other than firing him makes you look stupid for just extending his contract.
It’s gone to the point now where firing him will not look stupid for extending. We look stupid for not firing him. All our rivals are laughing at us and it’s so obvious he’s out of his depth yet the board won’t put him out of his misery
 
It’s gone to the point now where firing him will not look stupid for extending. We look stupid for not firing him. All our rivals are laughing at us and it’s so obvious he’s out of his depth yet the board won’t put him out of his misery
Yeah but it’s their egos I’m talking about. No way Ed wants firing Ole to be his legacy. Of course we look stupid to everyone else. That’s a given. And it sucks.
 
Yeah, also throw in the fact he chased a right winger for two years then bought him for 72m and doesn’t know where to play him. Added to the player he bought for 35m that never plays. How could any sound minded businessman have faith in someone that spends their money like that? It really is staggering when you think about it. There is literally no reason to keep him, other than firing him makes you look stupid for just extending his contract.

I suspect this is a major reason behind Woody desperately clinging to Ole, add to the fact that Ole is his perfect puppet since with his lack of credentials, he has zero leverage criticizing the board. People used to say that Ole always defends the owners and the board for the good of the club, but the reality is that knows well himself that he'll be lucky to find a job that pays him a tenth of what he's getting from United now.
 
We are at present 9 points off 1st poition in the league, and 9 points off 18th placed Burnley and on the same goals against, but have scored 8 goals more. Our league position could spiral downwards very quickley if our run of poor form is not turned round, not being defeatist but Christmas could see us being well down the league if we lose 9 out of the next possible 12 points.
If we lose 3 games then clearly this will have an adverse affect on our goal difference which at present only 5 other clubs have a worse goals against record. ( League position in brackets) Leeds (15), Leicester (12), Aston Villa (16) , Newcastle (19) and Norwich (20).
I do believe that the club is at penultiment moment of this season and must make a decision now as to the future management and coaching staff. It cannot be left any longer, as a club we cannot limp on from game to game to see if things improve, but I fear on past board decisions we will but by then the season will be lost and perhaps even our league status.
I am of an age when I remember the season we dropped from the 1st to the 2nd division ( I know that times and football has changed) but for me circumstances are becoming similar in as much as the club is reaching at point where the lack of form/team confidence cannot be turned round, whilst teams below us improve. One perhaps overlooked fact is no one at the club be that playing staff, coaching staff or senior management have ever been in the situation where the club could drop down a division and I do not think any have the mentality to deal with or overcome that problem.
I know that there will be a large number of forum members who will believe that we are too good to drop out of this league, however, there are older supporters like myself who can see similarties to when we ended dropping out of the 1st Division.
 
This notion of the board will wait till we are out of the Top 4 race is ridiculous. It's only ever happened once and that was Moyes and ever since it's been the same narrative. He'll get sacked for sure if Watford win without a doubt and if we beat Watford and lose to Chelsea he'll get sacked. He's one more bad result from being kicked out, the negative momentum would be too much, it's already at tipping point.
 
We are at present 9 points off 1st poition in the league, and 9 points off 18th placed Burnley and on the same goals against, but have scored 8 goals more. Our league position could spiral downwards very quickley if our run of poor form is not turned round, not being defeatist but Christmas could see us being well down the league if we lose 9 out of the next possible 12 points.
If we lose 3 games then clearly this will have an adverse affect on our goal difference which at present only 5 other clubs have a worse goals against record. ( League position in brackets) Leeds (15), Leicester (12), Aston Villa (16) , Newcastle (19) and Norwich (20).
I do believe that the club is at penultiment moment of this season and must make a decision now as to the future management and coaching staff. It cannot be left any longer, as a club we cannot limp on from game to game to see if things improve, but I fear on past board decisions we will but by then the season will be lost and perhaps even our league status.
I am of an age when I remember the season we dropped from the 1st to the 2nd division ( I know that times and football has changed) but for me circumstances are becoming similar in as much as the club is reaching at point where the lack of form/team confidence cannot be turned round, whilst teams below us improve. One perhaps overlooked fact is no one at the club be that playing staff, coaching staff or senior management have ever been in the situation where the club could drop down a division and I do not think any have the mentality to deal with or overcome that problem.
I know that there will be a large number of forum members who will believe that we are too good to drop out of this league, however, there are older supporters like myself who can see similarties to when we ended dropping out of the 1st Division.

To be honest id take us being relegated if, and only IF, it meant the Glazers were forced to sell up. The owners are the biggest hindrance to the club moving forward.
 
This notion of the board will wait till we are out of the Top 4 race is ridiculous. It's only ever happened once and that was Moyes and ever since it's been the same narrative. He'll get sacked for sure if Watford win without a doubt and if we beat Watford and lose to Chelsea he'll get sacked. He's one more bad result from being kicked out, the negative momentum would be too much, it's already at tipping point.

I think if he gets through Watford unscathed, and takes at least point vs Villarreal, a loss to Chelsea won't matter at all. Even a bad one.

Then Arsenal will destroy us at OT and we'll be back to this situation again. "He's got the Palace and YB games to save his job".

Repeat until May.
 
I think if he gets through Watford unscathed, and takes at least point vs Villarreal, a loss to Chelsea won't matter at all. Even a bad one.

Then Arsenal will destroy us at OT and we'll be back to this situation again. "He's got the Palace and YB games to save his job".

Repeat until May.

If he somehow flukes top 4 he will be here next season aswell.
 
I think if he gets through Watford unscathed, and takes at least point vs Villarreal, a loss to Chelsea won't matter at all. Even a bad one.

Then Arsenal will destroy us at OT and we'll be back to this situation again. "He's got the Palace and YB games to save his job".

Repeat until May.
I’m not so sure of this. A bad result in the next 2 or a hammering off Chelsea and he’s gone
 
This notion of the board will wait till we are out of the Top 4 race is ridiculous. It's only ever happened once and that was Moyes and ever since it's been the same narrative. He'll get sacked for sure if Watford win without a doubt and if we beat Watford and lose to Chelsea he'll get sacked. He's one more bad result from being kicked out, the negative momentum would be too much, it's already at tipping point.
On the contrary the only time the Board has acted with top 4 still in Balance was when we sacked Jose. LVG was kept on till the season end because we were just about in contention for top 4. Moyes was also kept on till top 4 became mathematically impossible. So this thing with Ole ist the norm.
 
Yeah, aren’t their questions vetted before the press conference though? And they’d instantly lose their privileges and access if they went hard on Ole. That’s why they’re a waste of time.

Yeah vanilla presser coming on Friday
 
Yeah him STILL being in a job shows how disconnected they are from this fanbase
While social media can be a bad thing and it’s full of idiots, over the last few weeks anything the club puts up all the top comments are Ole Out. Literally all of them, so they must know how the fanbase feels yet they don’t care
 
While social media can be a bad thing and it’s full of idiots, over the last few weeks anything the club puts up all the top comments are Ole Out. Literally all of them, so they must know how the fanbase feels yet they don’t care

Yeah they may as well just put their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la la la la"
 
What abuse is Cole talking about? Having someone NOT doing a good job, being laid millions and keeling his job no matter what does deserve flack. He is not up to par and ex players should not defend him, fans are fed up and things like this wi increase the "abuse" more.
 
On the contrary the only time the Board has acted with top 4 still in Balance was when we sacked Jose. LVG was kept on till the season end because we were just about in contention for top 4. Moyes was also kept on till top 4 became mathematically impossible. So this thing with Ole ist the norm.
You'd hope the past isn't a blueprint they will slavishly follow ad infinitum though, given the inevitable that happened to Jose and LVG afterwards
 
You wanted to say it, didn't you? ;)
But seriously; me and you talked a lot about Jose reign and in smaller amount about Lvg's reign.
When you compare Moyes/Jose/Lvg last days and now Ole's; was mood this low?

It's funny how Jose fans start defending him no matter what, even when no one brought his name. It's juts that few don't want to miss the chance to somehow praise Jose no matter what.

Btw yes, mood was this low. People just forget as time heals most of the things. Van Gaal was boring and with Jose it was like war every day.

In the end, they all failed, just that it's a different level of failures. They were hired to win/challenge for PL and we didn't do it even once in last 8 years. That's a failure considering how much money we have spent.
 
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