Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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He's only saying what many of us are thinking, the abuse aimed at Ole from a section of United fans isn't right. It's completely unnecessary. You can air your grievances regards his management of the club without resorting to abuse, name-calling.

I legit don't get why that is so hard to understand for some people.

That's pretty fecking obvious though isn't it? Doesn't take every ex player Ole has ever played with to come out with. Not that it will change anything either. Just feels weird and will only lead to more hate on this fecked social media channels
 
While I want Ole sacked, I do at times wonder about the state of his mental health. Imagine having the majority of the fanbase clamouring for your sacking and having to endure the countless digs by opposition fans.
I mean he brought this upon himself by not resigning but I do feel a tad sorry for the guy, at a human level.

I'd imagine any smart high profile figure does their best to avoid the coverage.
Don't get too high, and don't get too low will surely be the mantra many work to.
 
See he is back at Carrington after that well deserved break. Hopefully it recharged his batteries so he is fully prepared to manage us to plenty more terrible performances and results.
 
My goodness man!!! You are making it as if the word "P. E. Teacher" is the most abusive word ever used in the history of caf. How deluded are you?

You want to take action because you think that members in here are behaving like 10 year old. You think that comparing Ole's managerial qualities to that of a P.E Teacher is childish. And the same you decided to ban the members who used that comparison and auto-edit the P.E Teacher word to "OLE OLE OLE I LOVE YOU". Let me tell you, let's start a poll, ask the members of caf on which one is childish. Is it comparing Ole's managerial abilities to that of a P. E. Teacher or banning the people who made that comparison and auto editing the word to "OLE OLE OLE I LOVE YOU"?

Just understand this. Ole, the player, he was was great. He will always be remembered as a great player in United's history. We all love him. But, Ole, the manager, is a different story. Moyes was our manager and he was abused. LVG was our manager who won us our first title after SAF and he was abused, Jose was our manager who won us two titles and he was abused (probably got the harshest of the abuse). And many of our current and former players were also abused on a daily basis. We are talking about real bad words and abuses here, not like the P.E Teacher analogy or words like fraud manager or incompetent. You pretend like this is the first time anyone was abused on this site.

Go and check my message history if you want to and you will see that i never abused anyone, be it a player, manager or a caf member. And you banned me for 3 days and gave me 6 points for the word Ole Ole Ole I love you and now defending your actions as if it was the first and the most "abusive word" used here. Childish!!!
I’d take part in that poll! Unfortunately I consider having a breakdown because your favourite put down of Ole has been edited to be very much more childish. Sorry.
 
The longer he stays, the more out of his depth he appears to be, and the worse the players seem to get. And then the frustration among fans grows exponentially. If he's still around next year and we lose the first game of the season 4-0 to Villa, do you not expect the frustration to grow?
 
Always felt excited after international breaks but this one I just feel scared to watch us under Ole yet again.
 
As long as we are not talking about his family and kids and etc, the rest of the comments are not even abuse.
 
At some point, the players have to revolt. International careers are being killed off, because Ole is not using players like VDB and some players do have professional pride. It can't be nice going home, game after game, getting humiliated by your fellow professionals.
If I were a MUFC player in our last match against MCFC, I'd go home depressed. Our players were denied the chance to touch the ball and that must've been completely demoralising.

I agree, first of all after the Liverpool defeat, we had the same core of players starting the City game. The problem is if a player knows, regardless of his perfomance, they play every game.

AWB, Maguire, Shaw, McFred, Bruno, Rashford, Greenwood are all culprits of this, does not mean I think they are all bad players but none of them face consequences of being humiliated whilst players that could deserve a chance are sat there on the bench.
 
Always felt excited after international breaks but this one I just feel scared to watch us under Ole yet again.

I was going to comment something like this.

Previously, even when we were awful before breaks, the break seemed to 'freshen' things up a bit but now it seems the mood is even lower because people can sense this is a huge missed opportunity to give us a fighting chance at salvaging the season.

Now, it's either OGS to end of season with awful football or it goes so bad he gets sacked but by then, there'd be nothing to play for (expect the FA cup maybe).
 
What abuse is he getting? Apart from him being accused of being a physical education teacher? And he is incompetent?

Another myth to protect Ole.

Hardly ever I see anyone abusing Ole the man, most of us are stating the fact that he is not good enough to do this job.

I mean it is our right as fans to be able to call someone out who isn't good at his job right?

Its not like he spent 500m and being paid £7m a year. The fans have high expectations of the club, high expectations of a manager who spends that money and earns that money. We have every right to be critical of his management.

The Ole fan boys in the media will call it abuse, instead they need to look at the reality, the football that is being played and the results he is getting. It's clear to most fans that Ole is a poor manager, its been 3 years and we are not improving.

In fact as fans we have been very patient, we have somewhat backed him for 3 years which is a long time.

It is very weird to see this when Ole said he wanted to have the most hard working team, rebuild will be 3 years. 3 years on, all we are doing is calling him out, we are the least hard working team in the league, we are no where close to challenging for the title under him.
 
The Jose acolytes that still roam this place are some of the most insufferable and aggressively awful towards Ole. But it all really started with him.

Yeah, I hope Ole fans won't be like that for next manager.
 
Watching Utd is going to be hard work this year with Ole at the helm. I won't be surprised if this season is a complete disaster. I honestly don't know what results to expect anymore. I hope he selects more "non-favourites" before he slings his hook.
 
Another myth to protect Ole.

Hardly ever I see anyone abusing Ole the man, most of us are stating the fact that he is not good enough to do this job.

I mean it is our right as fans to be able to call someone out who isn't good at his job right?

Its not like he spent 500m and being paid £7m a year. The fans have high expectations of the club, high expectations of a manager who spends that money and earns that money. We have every right to be critical of his management.

The Ole fan boys in the media will call it abuse, instead they need to look at the reality, the football that is being played and the results he is getting. It's clear to most fans that Ole is a poor manager, its been 3 years and we are not improving.

In fact as fans we have been very patient, we have somewhat backed him for 3 years which is a long time.

It is very weird to see this when Ole said he wanted to have the most hard working team, rebuild will be 3 years. 3 years on, all we are doing is calling him out, we are the least hard working team in the league, we are no where close to challenging for the title under him.
Agree with you and adding to this is a total lack of any clear direction on the field and really no progress since the honeymoon ended after Mourinho had brought us to our knees with his dreadful management methods. OGS was a breath of fresh air and I was as nostalgic as everyone else when things started out well at first. But it´s clear today that the job is to big for him...just consider his experience at coaching at a high level....Cardiff and Molde..Really?..Would we have hired somebody else with a similar background? No is always the answer to that question.

Compare his experience with Ten Hag, Rodgers, Ragnick or any other person named to take over from him and they are all better equipped to mangage United. How on earth can we put out a side that can not even do the fundementals of any sport right in being able to outrun and outwork most other sides? Pep and Klopp put huge pressure on their players to be able to do those things and add to that a clear method of playing while we are looking like a clueless undertrained team not knowing in which direction we are going. And at the end of the day OGS is the person responsible.
 
The pressure will be unbelievable if we lose at the weekend, but then we've got a massive game so soon after so would we want to go into that with a caretaker. We're just in a shite position.
 
Agree with you and adding to this is a total lack of any clear direction on the field and really no progress since the honeymoon ended after Mourinho had brought us to our knees with his dreadful management methods. OGS was a breath of fresh air and I was as nostalgic as everyone else when things started out well at first. But it´s clear today that the job is to big for him...just consider his experience at coaching at a high level....Cardiff and Molde..Really?..Would we have hired somebody else with a similar background? No is always the answer to that question.

Compare his experience with Ten Hag, Rodgers, Ragnick or any other person named to take over from him and they are all better equipped to mangage United. How on earth can we put out a side that can not even do the fundementals of any sport right in being able to outrun and outwork most other sides? Pep and Klopp put huge pressure on their players to be able to do those things and add to that a clear method of playing while we are looking like a clueless undertrained team not knowing in which direction we are going. And at the end of the day OGS is the person responsible.

Exactly. Pep and Klopp bring coaches to help them coach players, make them better with fresh ideas.

Ole brought in Phelan who has not coached in a while, was a failed manager, Mkenna, Carrick who have not really coached at a high level.

These players need elite coaches, at the moment it seems the coaches cannot get through to the players. I mean under Jose we saw it fall apart as players fell out with him but with Ole it is clear that he has massive issues in coaching.

There is not one element of football that I can think of that we are good at.

Defending - Worse than norwich at home who are destined to go down
Set Pieces - Can't defend them, can't score from them
Heading - We lose almost every ariel duel, even though we have one of the biggest sides
Midfield - ?? What Do we use a midfield ? Attacking we dont, defensively, they are always isolated
Attacking - There are no attacking movements that you think, this will lead to a goal.

I watch games because I am a Fan, I always have hope that today we can win but its always the same every week, struggle struggle struggle.
 
The pressure will be unbelievable if we lose at the weekend, but then we've got a massive game so soon after so would we want to go into that with a caretaker. We're just in a shite position.

As long as we dont lose more than 5-0, he will be safe.
 
Will he get the bullet if we lose at the weekend?

I doubt it

I assume that the plan now is to continue with Ole until such time as it looks like CL football for next season is in serious jeopardy, at which point Rodgers will immediately be appointed.

If results pick up a bit, Ole could see out the majority (or even all) of the season. If we continue to nosedive, I expect Rodgers will be in place by Christmas.

I don't think anything hinges on this weekend, though.
 
Bayern??? :lol: He wouldn’t have lasted 3 months, let alone 3 years.

I can understand some managers deserving time. But has Solskjaer has done enough to earn time. His most successful transfer window, majority of the players are his own selection and the team of lesser quality played better football with the likes of Herrera, Lindlelof and James as regulars. It seems the manager and the staff have no sense of direction.
 
You know what? I think Cole is absolutely spot on. People are blinkered if they think Ole isn’t getting treated the respect he deserve. Instead of people posting stuff on social media like “ Ole isn’t the right man but he was worth a try seeing as he got the fans and players back on board after mourinho‘s awful run and he’s a true legend and still is”, but we’re not. We’re seeing posts like “Ole is a clown“ “Ole should have is legendary status took off him” “ I’m sick of him smiling” and many more stuff like this but why? I can’t get my around it other than these people who are saying these types of things where just glory hunters or have never been to a game because every game I go to the fans in OT don’t treat him like this.

it’s disgraceful

all I keep hearing is about is smile. Is smile bothers you. If that smile bothers you then you have honestly never seen him play for man United because that’s what he did week in, week out. It’s also a sign of calmness to let others know nothing is bothering him, which I love. yes the guy is not the right man for the job but if wasn’t for him in 1999 we wouldn’t have any ammo to take the mick out of any other fans from City or Pool, because that’s all we have left as quite frankly they will many more trophies than us in the next 10 years.
 
Totally wrong. This place has never ever been worse than under Jose. The divide in the fanbase was massive, and its still there. The Jose acolytes that still roam this place are some of the most insufferable and aggressively awful towards Ole. But it all really started with him.
You want to say that Jose acolytes (assuming this goes to me) are aggressive towards Ole because Jose got sacked so lets all "hate" (hate using that word) next manager?
 
What abuse is he getting? Apart from him being accused of being a physical education teacher? And he is incompetent?

Have you checked any message board or social media or...have you been on the internet?

He's getting all of the abuse.
 
I assume that the plan now is to continue with Ole until such time as it looks like CL football for next season is in serious jeopardy, at which point Rodgers will immediately be appointed.

If results pick up a bit, Ole could see out the majority (or even all) of the season. If we continue to nosedive, I expect Rodgers will be in place by Christmas.

I don't think anything hinges on this weekend, though.

Yeah like I just said in another thread can see this being just like the second half of 15/16 under LVG, just stupid blind faith until top 4 is out of reach for him. I also don't buy into this lack of quality options available excuse some are peddling to defend him still being in charge either.
 

Load of bollocks, United fans and ex-players are holding back because of who he is. Someone with no connection to the club would be getting torn to shreds. The journos in the interviews and press conferences are briefed on what they’re allowed to ask and give him easy generic questions. He’s actually getting off very lightly, it’s bizarre how it’s seems everyone’s rallied together to protect him.
 
Exactly. Pep and Klopp bring coaches to help them coach players, make them better with fresh ideas.

Ole brought in Phelan who has not coached in a while, was a failed manager, Mkenna, Carrick who have not really coached at a high level.

These players need elite coaches, at the moment it seems the coaches cannot get through to the players. I mean under Jose we saw it fall apart as players fell out with him but with Ole it is clear that he has massive issues in coaching.

There is not one element of football that I can think of that we are good at.

Defending - Worse than norwich at home who are destined to go down
Set Pieces - Can't defend them, can't score from them
Heading - We lose almost every ariel duel, even though we have one of the biggest sides
Midfield - ?? What Do we use a midfield ? Attacking we dont, defensively, they are always isolated
Attacking - There are no attacking movements that you think, this will lead to a goal.

I watch games because I am a Fan, I always have hope that today we can win but its always the same every week, struggle struggle struggle.

For me this is key.

I actually think Ole would have bough himself a stay of execution had he been more ruthless with his coaching staff. His reluctance to either demote them by bringing in an experienced and capable coach, in the mould of Queiroz, or sack them altogether, out of blind loyalty means he will get the sack. That is an inevitability because it is clear as day that unless the coaching improves, the football and results are doomed to repeat in the cycle. He may get some results because of the standard of player he has, but we won't get Top 4 and / or a trophy with this coaching staff. The only change to the coaching staff was this set piece coach we took from Chelsea, and thus far, he looks to be another dud.
 
Load of bollocks, United fans and ex-players are holding back because of who he is. Someone with no connection to the club would be getting torn to shreds. The journos in the interviews and press conferences are briefed on what they’re allowed to ask and give him easy generic questions. He’s actually getting off very lightly, it’s bizarre how it’s seems everyone’s rallied together to protect him.

Yeah I am sick of listening to his old teammates talk absolute crap, this is getting so boring and predictable right now
 
I'd be amazed if he survived a defeat to Watford.

Then again, I actually wouldn't.

Yeah they are so sentimental with his results compared to previous managers, starting to think he can get away with whatever results he wants and still keep his job which is ridiculous.
 
For me this is key.

I actually think Ole would have bough himself a stay of execution had he been more ruthless with his coaching staff. His reluctance to either demote them by bringing in an experienced and capable coach, in the mould of Queiroz, or sack them altogether, out of blind loyalty means he will get the sack. That is an inevitability because it is clear as day that unless the coaching improves, the football and results are doomed to repeat in the cycle. He may get some results because of the standard of player he has, but we won't get Top 4 and / or a trophy with this coaching staff. The only change to the coaching staff was this set piece coach we took from Chelsea, and thus far, he looks to be another dud.

Think about it, If Chelsea rated him as a top coach, would he have been allowed to leave? We are taking U18 coaches of Chelsea for out first team whilst other teams have experienced coaches with them.

Its just a job for friends and ex colleagues. Its actually pathetic, you need to be able to trust your coaches, I have not seen any improvement, in fact we are getting worse.

If Ole had taken the decision to get a top tier coach, it would have made it easier for him.

I saw a tweet the other day, someone listed out the credentials of all our coaching staff, each and every single one of them is relegation standard.
 
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