Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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Rogers would be massively underwhelming. He's an obvious upgrade on Ole in pretty much ever department, but I don't believe for a second he'd win us anything beyond a FA Cup or League Cup.
Pretty much. I just don't understand what people see in him, but his Leicester team choked twice in getting into the top 4 before they got well below their own recent standards so far in the League. We're not going to find consistency nor proper glory with him.
 
Thank god its just the star. Lurching from a dreadful manager to a rubbish one.
Harsh on Rodgers. He is a decent manager, but a decent manager isn't what we need to fix Ole's mess. Maybe if we didn't waste 4 years on Ole, Rodgers would have been fine as an option, but right now we need proper class. Can't have any more half measures.
 
Harsh on Rodgers. He is a decent manager, but a decent manager isn't what we need to fix Ole's mess. Maybe if we didn't waste 4 years on Ole, Rodgers would have been fine as an option, but right now we need proper class. Can't have any more half measures.

Can't say harsh on Rodgers then say we've wasted 4 years on Ole, which in itself is just as harsh.
 
Can't say harsh on Rodgers then say we've wasted 4 years on Ole, which in itself is just as harsh.
Hey at least if we get Rodgers and it's clearly not working we won't give him 3 years like Ole.

We get Rodgers, if Ten Hag or Poch become available in the summer you sack him. Time to become ruthless, we're Manchester United for Gods sake. We need to start moving like Madrid and Bayern, Madrid have had 4 managers since we've had Ole, they've won 2 la ligas in that time. Bayern have had 3, they've won a treble and last season won the league in that time.
Forget all this long term bollocks. Get the best manager available if he doesn't work out bye bye, go for the next one.
 
It’s like we are just buying into any old shite on Twitter because we are so desperate to see the back of Ole.

BR would be hugely underwhelming but the way his teams play would suit the players we have at the club.

If it was a short 2-3 year contract it wouldn’t be too bad I guess…..anyone but Ole really.
 
Can't say harsh on Rodgers then say we've wasted 4 years on Ole, which in itself is just as harsh.
It's not harsh at all. We've spent 500 million with next to no improvement from Jose's days. Years have been absolutely wasted while Liverpool and City have improved tremendously over the same period. Liverpool, in particular, with very little spending done.
 
Anyone else think it’s spin, get excited by Rodgers (for some) only to find Ole in the dugout come Watford??
 
Hey at least if we get Rodgers and it's clearly not working we won't give him 3 years like Ole.

We get Rodgers, if Ten Hag or Poch become available in the summer you sack him. Time to become ruthless, we're Manchester United for Gods sake. We need to start moving like Madrid and Bayern, Madrid have had 4 managers since we've had Ole, they've won 2 la ligas in that time. Bayern have had 3, they've won a treble and last season won the league in that time.
Forget all this long term bollocks. Get the best manager available if he doesn't work out bye bye, go for the next one.

None of that is based in reality though is it, what's the point of these fairytale scenarios? We're not hiring Rodgers to then sack him a few months later, are we? :lol: look what's going on right now with Ole!
 
It's not harsh at all. We've spent 500 million with next to no improvement from Jose's days. Years have been absolutely wasted while Liverpool and City have improved tremendously over the same period. Liverpool, in particular, with very little spending done.

If you see no improvement from the Jose days, thats your opinion. I think most would disagree with you. Yes we've spunked money not brilliantly, its the thing we've done best since Fergie left.
 
It's the Daily Star rehashing the same stories about Rodgers and Newcastle from a few weeks ago.

It's funny how people can convince themselves it's a good idea just because he isn't Ole.
 


In any case it's deluded to think we would go for Ten Haag in the first place. Rodgers and Poch are the only viable options for the Glazers if they are forced to do what they desperately don't want to and sack Ole - that's just how it is.

So all you’ve done is say ‘rumours coming from sources that are far from reputable are coming out of the Netherlands’. Should I just quote the express if they have rumours about Rodgers?

They already have, just from the top of my mind we got Pogba's and Bruno's statements and leaks from the squad about Bailly, VdB and Cristiano being uncomfortable with Ole. I dont think it will get as toxic as it was under Mourinho because Ole would never throw the players under the bus but I think it'll reach a point where the players will feel nothing but apathy and will see this season as a wasted one.

Specially if we get kicked from the UCL in group stage.
We’re close. We’re not quite there but we’re very close to that level of apathy that would be indistinguishable from toxicity. It seems like they players have reservations and thoughts, but it hasn’t yet transferred into the training ground being a poor place to work. Give it a loss more or two then no matter how much they like the boss they’ll just become too jaded to work hard.
 
Rodgers is a very good manager. He would be the best appointment post-Ferguson. Plays good football, been good everywhere he's gone, with the only asterisk against him being that he conceded a lead in the league with Liverpool side that some think should have won.

Eriksen was touted as Ferguson's replacement when he was going to retire the first time around and Ferguson mentioned it himself in hindsight saying how flavour of the month/year managers quickly turn out to be very underwhelming in retrospect. Bielsa comes to mind.

Of all the available managers, Rodgers makes the most sense.
 
Rodgers is a very good manager. He would be the best appointment post-Ferguson. Plays good football, been good everywhere he's gone, with the only asterisk against him being that he conceded a lead in the league with Liverpool side that some think should have won.

Eriksen was touted as Ferguson's replacement when he was going to retire the first time around and Ferguson mentioned it himself in hindsight saying how flavour of the month/year managers quickly turn out to be very underwhelming in retrospect. Bielsa comes to mind.

Of all the available managers, Rodgers makes the most sense.
Totally agree. I hope it happens soon.
 
Rodgers is a very good manager. He would be the best appointment post-Ferguson. Plays good football, been good everywhere he's gone, with the only asterisk against him being that he conceded a lead in the league with Liverpool side that some think should have won.

Eriksen was touted as Ferguson's replacement when he was going to retire the first time around and Ferguson mentioned it himself in hindsight saying how flavour of the month/year managers quickly turn out to be very underwhelming in retrospect. Bielsa comes to mind.

Of all the available managers, Rodgers makes the most sense.

I don't think anyone doubts his ability as a manager. It's more a case of we've been mocking the guy on here for years and years, only for him to become our next manager?

What if he sees this? https://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-brendan-gerrard-show.439873/

:nervous:
 
I’m trying to remain optimistic about the potential arrival of Rogers. My concerns like many are he has been in charge of teams that have bottled big situations. You could say it was Gerrard that bottled it for him and his Leicester side never really had any right to be challenging for top 4. At least he plays decent football but like with Ole I have my doubts if he can win us the big trophies
 
Ideally I wouldn't want Rodgers but if I woke up tomorrow to here Ole was gone and Rodgers was in I'd be happy enough.

Plus if Rodgers failed I doubt we'd stock with him long since he used to manage Liverpool.

We need to learn to fire managers quicker
 
I’m trying to remain optimistic about the potential arrival of Rogers. My concerns like many are he has been in charge of teams that have bottled big situations. You could say it was Gerrard that bottled it for him and his Leicester side never really had any right to be challenging for top 4. At least he plays decent football but like with Ole I have my doubts if he can win us the big trophies
I agree, he still has a lot of question marks. But, if he's the only manager available right now I'd take him. At least he won't get as much patience from the fans and the board if it's not working out. He'd be gone fairly quickly.
 
If we win against Watford I don’t want to see players beating their chests on twitter saying “this is for you” or some other bs. Pass me the sick bucket already
 
Hey at least if we get Rodgers and it's clearly not working we won't give him 3 years like Ole.

We get Rodgers, if Ten Hag or Poch become available in the summer you sack him. Time to become ruthless, we're Manchester United for Gods sake. We need to start moving like Madrid and Bayern, Madrid have had 4 managers since we've had Ole, they've won 2 la ligas in that time. Bayern have had 3, they've won a treble and last season won the league in that time.
Forget all this long term bollocks. Get the best manager available if he doesn't work out bye bye, go for the next one.

I agree, he still has a lot of question marks. But, if he's the only manager available right now I'd take him. At least he won't get as much patience from the fans and the board if it's not working out. He'd be gone fairly quickly.

Do you honestly think that would happen with our board and owners??
 
If we win against Watford I don’t want to see players beating their chests on twitter saying “this is for you” or some other bs. Pass me the sick bucket already
The forum will be full with the Ole-In fans saying "I told you so".

The thing is, even if Ole turns it around, it will never be good enough. There is just no point.
 
Very fair point and the scenario above are not implausible at all. I've heard similar stories/views from the industry where my father works. The ego of people who work in very high positions who achieved great success is nothing that should be underestimated, no matter how good of a character they seem to have in the public eye.

However, I do believe(just like you pointed out) Sir Alex wants to see the club being successful and winning trophies. I can imagine he'd love seeing Ronaldo winning the Premiership or the Championship with United before he retires and I think he knows that Ole is not the man to help him achieve that. Can imagine Sir Alex being a bit conflicted if the what we've discussed is what's going on.
Yeah I think it’s a legit thin too. He will know Ole isn’t up to
Very fair point and the scenario above are not implausible at all. I've heard similar stories/views from the industry where my father works. The ego of people who work in very high positions who achieved great success is nothing that should be underestimated, no matter how good of a character they seem to have in the public eye.

However, I do believe(just like you pointed out) Sir Alex wants to see the club being successful and winning trophies. I can imagine he'd love seeing Ronaldo winning the Premiership or the Championship with United before he retires and I think he knows that Ole is not the man to help him achieve that. Can imagine Sir Alex being a bit conflicted if the what we've discussed is what's going on.
100% agree there. Imagine if someone had come in and basically just continued the success he was having - it’s a unique situation to have someone choose their successor in the first place.

Do agree it’s different now, but think he’s too loyal and perhaps to attached to Ole to even consult on this matter. Wonder what it would take for Sir Alex to go full ole out mode like many of us:lol:
 
I would take rodgers over ole but feck i don’t think he’s the level of manager we should be looking at. This sucks.
 
So all you’ve done is say ‘rumours coming from sources that are far from reputable are coming out of the Netherlands’. Should I just quote the express if they have rumours about Rodgers?


We’re close. We’re not quite there but we’re very close to that level of apathy that would be indistinguishable from toxicity. It seems like they players have reservations and thoughts, but it hasn’t yet transferred into the training ground being a poor place to work. Give it a loss more or two then no matter how much they like the boss they’ll just become too jaded to work hard.
Not sure that click bait news is as much of a thing overseas as it is here. Ten Haag to city would certainly seem plausible with the forethought their board have shown before, knowing guardiola is leaving in 2023 and him playing a similar brand of football.

We’re fast approaching a situation that’s more toxic than the Jose one simply because it’s been allowed to fester.
 
I wish Ole had the balls to call out the players like the great man used to do: I see his lack of authority as being a major reason why his time is now up…

 
I feel disappointed that Sir Alex is choosing to protect him behind the scenes. This is just undefendable. Even Liverpool got rid of Dalglish when he hit his ceiling.

This, especially after seeing his anger and dismay at OT when Liverpool beat us. I thought he had enough at that point, especially as it came so soon after he expressed his view about Solskjaer needing to start his best players while surely knowing cameras where on him
 
If you see no improvement from the Jose days, thats your opinion. I think most would disagree with you. Yes we've spunked money not brilliantly, its the thing we've done best since Fergie left.
I disagree, were worse
 
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