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Thank god its just the star. Lurching from a dreadful manager to a rubbish one.
To call him a rubbish manager is just daft really, he's obviously not rubbish.
Thank god its just the star. Lurching from a dreadful manager to a rubbish one.
Pretty much. I just don't understand what people see in him, but his Leicester team choked twice in getting into the top 4 before they got well below their own recent standards so far in the League. We're not going to find consistency nor proper glory with him.Rogers would be massively underwhelming. He's an obvious upgrade on Ole in pretty much ever department, but I don't believe for a second he'd win us anything beyond a FA Cup or League Cup.
Harsh on Rodgers. He is a decent manager, but a decent manager isn't what we need to fix Ole's mess. Maybe if we didn't waste 4 years on Ole, Rodgers would have been fine as an option, but right now we need proper class. Can't have any more half measures.Thank god its just the star. Lurching from a dreadful manager to a rubbish one.
Why can’t we get Ten Hag?
Probably wont leave mid season. Real reason probably being the board never heard of him.
Harsh on Rodgers. He is a decent manager, but a decent manager isn't what we need to fix Ole's mess. Maybe if we didn't waste 4 years on Ole, Rodgers would have been fine as an option, but right now we need proper class. Can't have any more half measures.
Hey at least if we get Rodgers and it's clearly not working we won't give him 3 years like Ole.Can't say harsh on Rodgers then say we've wasted 4 years on Ole, which in itself is just as harsh.
It's not harsh at all. We've spent 500 million with next to no improvement from Jose's days. Years have been absolutely wasted while Liverpool and City have improved tremendously over the same period. Liverpool, in particular, with very little spending done.Can't say harsh on Rodgers then say we've wasted 4 years on Ole, which in itself is just as harsh.
Hey at least if we get Rodgers and it's clearly not working we won't give him 3 years like Ole.
We get Rodgers, if Ten Hag or Poch become available in the summer you sack him. Time to become ruthless, we're Manchester United for Gods sake. We need to start moving like Madrid and Bayern, Madrid have had 4 managers since we've had Ole, they've won 2 la ligas in that time. Bayern have had 3, they've won a treble and last season won the league in that time.
Forget all this long term bollocks. Get the best manager available if he doesn't work out bye bye, go for the next one.
It's not harsh at all. We've spent 500 million with next to no improvement from Jose's days. Years have been absolutely wasted while Liverpool and City have improved tremendously over the same period. Liverpool, in particular, with very little spending done.
Where's the improvement, in your opinion?If you see no improvement from the Jose days, thats your opinion.
In any case it's deluded to think we would go for Ten Haag in the first place. Rodgers and Poch are the only viable options for the Glazers if they are forced to do what they desperately don't want to and sack Ole - that's just how it is.
We’re close. We’re not quite there but we’re very close to that level of apathy that would be indistinguishable from toxicity. It seems like they players have reservations and thoughts, but it hasn’t yet transferred into the training ground being a poor place to work. Give it a loss more or two then no matter how much they like the boss they’ll just become too jaded to work hard.They already have, just from the top of my mind we got Pogba's and Bruno's statements and leaks from the squad about Bailly, VdB and Cristiano being uncomfortable with Ole. I dont think it will get as toxic as it was under Mourinho because Ole would never throw the players under the bus but I think it'll reach a point where the players will feel nothing but apathy and will see this season as a wasted one.
Specially if we get kicked from the UCL in group stage.
It's the daily star, it's not supposed to make sense.This makes no sense.
Why would we need to make a deal with Leicester if we're triggering a clause in Brenda's contract?
It's the daily star, it's not supposed to make sense.
Totally agree. I hope it happens soon.Rodgers is a very good manager. He would be the best appointment post-Ferguson. Plays good football, been good everywhere he's gone, with the only asterisk against him being that he conceded a lead in the league with Liverpool side that some think should have won.
Eriksen was touted as Ferguson's replacement when he was going to retire the first time around and Ferguson mentioned it himself in hindsight saying how flavour of the month/year managers quickly turn out to be very underwhelming in retrospect. Bielsa comes to mind.
Of all the available managers, Rodgers makes the most sense.
Rodgers is a very good manager. He would be the best appointment post-Ferguson. Plays good football, been good everywhere he's gone, with the only asterisk against him being that he conceded a lead in the league with Liverpool side that some think should have won.
Eriksen was touted as Ferguson's replacement when he was going to retire the first time around and Ferguson mentioned it himself in hindsight saying how flavour of the month/year managers quickly turn out to be very underwhelming in retrospect. Bielsa comes to mind.
Of all the available managers, Rodgers makes the most sense.
I agree, he still has a lot of question marks. But, if he's the only manager available right now I'd take him. At least he won't get as much patience from the fans and the board if it's not working out. He'd be gone fairly quickly.I’m trying to remain optimistic about the potential arrival of Rogers. My concerns like many are he has been in charge of teams that have bottled big situations. You could say it was Gerrard that bottled it for him and his Leicester side never really had any right to be challenging for top 4. At least he plays decent football but like with Ole I have my doubts if he can win us the big trophies
Hey at least if we get Rodgers and it's clearly not working we won't give him 3 years like Ole.
We get Rodgers, if Ten Hag or Poch become available in the summer you sack him. Time to become ruthless, we're Manchester United for Gods sake. We need to start moving like Madrid and Bayern, Madrid have had 4 managers since we've had Ole, they've won 2 la ligas in that time. Bayern have had 3, they've won a treble and last season won the league in that time.
Forget all this long term bollocks. Get the best manager available if he doesn't work out bye bye, go for the next one.
I agree, he still has a lot of question marks. But, if he's the only manager available right now I'd take him. At least he won't get as much patience from the fans and the board if it's not working out. He'd be gone fairly quickly.
The forum will be full with the Ole-In fans saying "I told you so".If we win against Watford I don’t want to see players beating their chests on twitter saying “this is for you” or some other bs. Pass me the sick bucket already
I never said I think that would happen. I think it should happen, I hope it would happen. But with this board it will not.Do you honestly think that would happen?
Yeah I think it’s a legit thin too. He will know Ole isn’t up toVery fair point and the scenario above are not implausible at all. I've heard similar stories/views from the industry where my father works. The ego of people who work in very high positions who achieved great success is nothing that should be underestimated, no matter how good of a character they seem to have in the public eye.
However, I do believe(just like you pointed out) Sir Alex wants to see the club being successful and winning trophies. I can imagine he'd love seeing Ronaldo winning the Premiership or the Championship with United before he retires and I think he knows that Ole is not the man to help him achieve that. Can imagine Sir Alex being a bit conflicted if the what we've discussed is what's going on.
100% agree there. Imagine if someone had come in and basically just continued the success he was having - it’s a unique situation to have someone choose their successor in the first place.Very fair point and the scenario above are not implausible at all. I've heard similar stories/views from the industry where my father works. The ego of people who work in very high positions who achieved great success is nothing that should be underestimated, no matter how good of a character they seem to have in the public eye.
However, I do believe(just like you pointed out) Sir Alex wants to see the club being successful and winning trophies. I can imagine he'd love seeing Ronaldo winning the Premiership or the Championship with United before he retires and I think he knows that Ole is not the man to help him achieve that. Can imagine Sir Alex being a bit conflicted if the what we've discussed is what's going on.
Not sure that click bait news is as much of a thing overseas as it is here. Ten Haag to city would certainly seem plausible with the forethought their board have shown before, knowing guardiola is leaving in 2023 and him playing a similar brand of football.So all you’ve done is say ‘rumours coming from sources that are far from reputable are coming out of the Netherlands’. Should I just quote the express if they have rumours about Rodgers?
We’re close. We’re not quite there but we’re very close to that level of apathy that would be indistinguishable from toxicity. It seems like they players have reservations and thoughts, but it hasn’t yet transferred into the training ground being a poor place to work. Give it a loss more or two then no matter how much they like the boss they’ll just become too jaded to work hard.
You was once ITK. What happened?
Was the outlet of information fed through a washing machine?
No offence.
I feel disappointed that Sir Alex is choosing to protect him behind the scenes. This is just undefendable. Even Liverpool got rid of Dalglish when he hit his ceiling.
Don’t worry we won’t beat WatfordIf we win against Watford I don’t want to see players beating their chests on twitter saying “this is for you” or some other bs. Pass me the sick bucket already
I disagree, were worseIf you see no improvement from the Jose days, thats your opinion. I think most would disagree with you. Yes we've spunked money not brilliantly, its the thing we've done best since Fergie left.