Well Rio, Evra and even Howson knew Ronaldo was in the works. Romano had ample time to find something. We can agree to disagree but I don’t think he’s all that.
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I think he latches on to news stories. No doubt he has some contacts but I don’t think he’s as good as he’s being given credit for. I certainly don’t think he’s privy to what’s going on at United board room level now.
At this point both Garry and Ole are just damaging their own names as ex United players. Showing that they don’t really care about Manchester United.
Nobody knows shit because Joel makes the call and he is in the illuminati.
Rio knew because Howson and him are mates and work on the podcast together. Not sure about Evra.
I find Romano is held to some weird standards where if he is not the very first source, then all of a sudden trash and unreliable on any related football matters. Not sure why he and not any other journalist is held to the same level of scrutiny.
I recall the Conte talks where Sky Italy, Sky England, Di Marzio etc. all said contact made with Conte and Romano went against the grain to say "no contact whatsoever". And that turned out to be the case. It's just one of many examples where he doesn't actually follow fellow reporters but people will believe what they want to believe. Or they will show a confirmation bias and point to one piece of news that he wasn't the very first source on, to evaluate from there he doesn't know much.
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Ten reasons Why Ole has to go?
1. Won nothing
2. Sh1te tactics, predictable, boring
3. Inability to change mid game, poor substitutions
4. Poor handling of Sancho, DVB, Telles
5. Refuses to drop his Favourites, plays injured players,
6. Severely lacks ambition and fire needed to compete
7. Poor in the media, like a parrot " we've got a good group" "the boys wanna improve"
8. A puppet for the Glazers
9. Not going to win anything under him
10. Ruining his leagcy
Ten reasons Why Ole has to go?
1. Won nothing
2. Sh1te tactics, predictable, boring
3. Inability to change mid game, poor substitutions
4. Poor handling of Sancho, DVB, Telles
5. Refuses to drop his Favourites, plays injured players,
6. Severely lacks ambition and fire needed to compete
7. Poor in the media, like a parrot " we've got a good group" "the boys wanna improve"
8. A puppet for the Glazers
9. Not going to win anything under him
10. Ruining his leagcy
I really hate this status quo
They seem convinced he’s doing a really good job. Problem is, this team he’s spent the last few seasons building is on the verge of falling apart with contracts coming to an end and alienated players agitating for moves. If something doesn’t change quickly then the last 3 years and £400m will have been pissed up the wall. Even more concerning is that we, as fans, seem able to see it but our board can’t?
I agree, he’s shit. But number 3 just absolutely isn’t true, he changed the game countless times last season rescuing a record number of points.
He puts himself on that pedestal by pretending to know the ins and outs of every single football matter on the planet.
He claims to know the inside track on everything. He has some contacts but has been caught out time and again, he's a bullsh*t artist. Just watch how he goes about his business, always a couple of minutes behind other reliable sources, never fully committing himself either way until something concrete comes from better sourced journo's on that particular story.
Why he's got such a loyal following for seemingly never breaking a story himself but rather just parroting others I'll never know.
Edit; Your example on Conte may be one he does have a source on, it's an Italian manager. I trust him on his sources in Italy where he learnt his trade under Di Marzio, who was also thought of as some transfer god until being caught out himself.
I am praying they've sent Ole on 'holiday' to Norway in order to get him out of the spotlight before announcing his removal as manager. This is a sensible and respectful thing to do.
Let's take a view on the current situation:
There's a lot of talk around Neville; he has never asked for a manager to be sacked but listen to what he says, he knows Ole is finished.
For all the Glazers many faults, they are billionaire businessmen, they will be aware of these things. It is in their interests for Man Utd to be successful, and this kind of mass revolt from everyone involved with the club is just not sustainable.
I have never seen a manager come back from this kind of thing, far greater managers than Ole have crumbled under this kind of deserved scrutiny.
Just a matter of time IMO.
Let's take a view on the current situation:
- The fans are almost unanimous in wanting a change of manager
- All pundits & football people have pretty much agreed he's not up to the job. Rio has club sources and has explicitly asked for him to go
- We have reports coming out left, right and centre that the players have no faith in Ole or his coaching team
There's a lot of talk around Neville; he has never asked for a manager to be sacked but listen to what he says, he knows Ole is finished.
For all the Glazers many faults, they are billionaire businessmen, they will be aware of these things. It is in their interests for Man Utd to be successful, and this kind of mass revolt from everyone involved with the club is just not sustainable.
I have never seen a manager come back from this kind of thing, far greater managers than Ole have crumbled under this kind of deserved scrutiny.
Just a matter of time IMO.
I feel bad for Moyes. Gets up early, perches himself in front of the laptop for a cheeky pre-work wank, types "Scottish c#&t gets f£cked by small chinless goblin" (his favourite genre) and all he sees is the BBC headline saying he's been punted.
Yes. And without any reason. Remember the movie “The Hostel” ?
I don't think he "pretends" as much as any other journalist to be honest. I've seen how he does his business and I've seen where he doesn't follow the herd and ends up being correct. If you're going to rule out journalists on not committing to a stance regularly enough then don't bother reading any football news whatsoever - they're all the same. For some reason people like to jibe Romano with different standards.
I remember the film Hostel.
It’s not the worst thing I’ve visualised today, unfortunately.
Because at the beginning he did have the inside track on a few big deals. It was like how Di Marzio was very reliable for a bit, then they realise they get more traction, clicks and reputation by overextending into deals they don’t know about. Romano does still have some very good sources, and is better than the vast majority of transfer journos. One of a few small of people that don’t just make up random links. He also has a catchphrase.
Yes whatever, so this is the same
11. Talks at the Cinema.
So I've been trying to think about this rationally today, trying to figure out why Ole is still in the job when his position is frankly untenable, and this is all I've got.
The options available to the board are thus:
Option 1: Sack Ole, pay him off, recruit a new manager and hope he makes top four. The risk here is buying out Ole's contract (somewhere in the region of 20 million) in addition to the even greater cost of missing out on CL football next season. The board could be looking at approx.50 to 60 million in losses should the new manager fail to make top four, which has the knock-on effect of reducing appeal in the transfer market and to a potential new manager.
Option 2: Keep faith in Ole, believing he can turn it around and qualify for the CL. The risk: virtually zero. The board knows the squad is good enough to finish in the top four despite the manager potentially holding them back, which they have managed to do two years in succession. They'd also save themselves the embarrassment of sacking a manager they very recently gave a new contact.
It's a risk either way for the board, but I think they've gone with option two because it is by far the most cost-effective solution - at least for the time being anyway. If a new manager becomes available who can all but guarantee a top-four finish, they'll go with option 1.
Bear in mind this is just my opinion, in no way related to fact.
TLDR; it's all about the money. Ya know, just in case you need confirmation of that. Which you probably didn't.
The options available to the board are thus:
Option 1: Sack Ole, pay him off, recruit a new manager and hope he makes top four. The risk here is buying out Ole's contract (somewhere in the region of 20 million) in addition to the even greater cost of missing out on CL football next season. The board could be looking at approx.50 to 60 million in losses should the new manager fail to make top four, which has the knock-on effect of reducing appeal in the transfer market and to a potential new manager.
Option 2: Keep faith in Ole, believing he can turn it around and qualify for the CL. The risk: virtually zero. The board knows the squad is good enough to finish in the top four despite the manager potentially holding them back, which they have managed to do two years in succession. They'd also save themselves the embarrassment of sacking a manager they very recently gave a new contact.
It's a risk either way for the board, but I think they've gone with option two because it is by far the most cost-effective solution - at least for the time being anyway. If a new manager becomes available who can all but guarantee a top-four finish, they'll go with option 1.
Bear in mind this is just my opinion, in no way related to fact.
TLDR; it's all about the money. Ya know, just in case you need confirmation of that. Which you probably didn't.
The players will force him out eventually. It's 2021, it won't continue much longer. A career as a professional footballer is too short for this shite to be put up with for ages.
I think he's still in a job purely because Pochetiino isn't available yet. We just want to drag Ole's tenure out until PSG sack him.
They're just delaying the inevitable, discomfort within the squad members is already leaking. This will only get worse, the board wants to throw away the season then so be it.
On the bolded these are few and far between and tend to be Italian related news, as per your point on him being right about Conte.
As a rule I believe 95% of tweets by Journo's are absolute nonsense. The only true information they gain from clubs is when a briefing occurs, you can tell when that happens as multiple sources are spoon fed the same story and run it at the same time. He will latch onto the reliable (local) press close to a story and closely mirror what they say and even put his own spin on it to label it his own, saw it with the Sancho transfer in both windows.
What annoys some like myself on Romano is the fact he promotes himself as some transfer guru and has the catchphrase 'here we go' nonsense. He places himself up for extra scrutiny.
I hope they're not hanging their hat on that because it looks like he could win them the league and you never know in the CL. Some French journos said recently that he's no longer interested in coming here but was when we were looking at him to follow on from Ole in his caretaker role.
Agree.
1. Money
2. Lack of outstanding candidates available.
3. 'Favourable' run of games post Chelsea to hope to steady the ship.
The only doubt at the moment is that it has all just been guesswork in the press since Saturday. They obviously haven't had a feed from the club.
That's a ridiculous take on the situation. We are far less likely to make top 4 with Ole at the wheel than any other competent manager, even if we can't get Zidane or anyone tied up at a top tier club, the list of better managers available is practically endless at this stage.
The thing is back then players believed in Ole. Performances last season weren't great but the results were good enough.
This season we've been horrible and worst of all the results are even worse. So I really can't see Ole turning this around.
We're basically writing off this season even though we don't have to. There's still plenty of time to get back on track but with each game that time is running out.
At this point I won't be surprised if we lose to Watford and Chelsea tear us apart and then they will have to sack him.
The question is why won't they give a new manager time to work on tactics during this break? It's just screams of panic.
The board gave Ole a shiny new contract because they thought we are steady as a top 4 team and nothing horrible will happen. They didn't plan on anything going bad.
Well guess what? This season will be end up being catastrophic if they don't do something asap.
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The head of al Qaida has released a new video and to prove that its very recent he mentioned how United played shit on Saturday and how the managers tactics were awful.
It's been dismissed by the F.B.I however, as they said it could have been recorded at any point in the last 8 years.
It's been dismissed by the F.B.I however, as they said it could have been recorded at any point in the last 8 years.
The holiday is annoying me. The club is in crisis and if he's staying he should be at the training ground studying Watford backwards, forwards and inside out for the next two weeks. Instead he swans off for a week. Absurd.
Why would they sack a manager that gets clapped and cheered of the pitch. It means the fans are content with the coach. When they didn’t like something they protested as it was the case with the Superleague.
High Horse FC. God forbid we turn into a well ran, succesful club like Bayern, Chelsea or Real where fans demand performances. No, I won’t go support them so top reds please spare me with that bs.
High Horse FC. God forbid we turn into a well ran, succesful club like Bayern, Chelsea or Real where fans demand performances. No, I won’t go support them so top reds please spare me with that bs.
This is probably where they're at. In his 3 starts to the season as manager we've got to 11 games with 16-20-17 points, so this isn't even his worst. The previous 2 occasions we've still made it into the CL.
We can all see the performances have been bad though and we never look like doing anything other than the bare minimum, but that's really nothing new under Ole.
The problem is though with this squad top four was never the expectation challenging for the title has been. Even pundits Neville, Keane, Rio and Scholes have reiterated the same thing. Imo if Ole somehow reaches top four at the end of the season he's still going to be fired. There's too many winners in the dressing room for anything less.
Well, that does prove he deserves a holiday. Must be tiring to think you're safe as feck regardless of your performances.
How many on here would have the audacity to go for a vacation if your job was on the line? This only proves he thinks that he is staying till the end of the season at least.
I think it gives off the wrong message too.
We've got 4 points in 6, what the feck?
I don't get how he's still here. Even by our standards. It's clear as feck he doesn't have a clue or that we're not just in a bad spell. There's nothing resembling any structure in our games, just hoping that somebody will pop up with a goal while we're leaking in aplenty. Or that we've got an extremely young side.
The only explanation I've got is that the players themselves are pushing hard for him to stay.
The only explanation I've got is that the players themselves are pushing hard for him to stay.
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