Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%
  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%

  • Total voters
    3,423
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Although I agree with Fjørtofts words here, he definitely chose the wrong tweet to reply to. Nothing abusing in it at all.
Not surprised he picked the wrong tweet to reply to. He's a grade A twat.
 
Folks should just give up on expecting Neville to say he should be sacked, he's never going to do it, just accept it and move on.

Since Ole has now gone on holiday, I want to say this is proof he is going to be sacked, but the kind of incompetency that would allow our coaches and players to have a few days off after a spanking is rife within the club so I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the case.

The question is what can be done? The next logical step is for the fans to protest I suppose, that seems to get them to action things. It's going to be management by crisis at this club for the foreseeable future.
 
It will soon be time for another pretend attack on Woodward's house if all this negativity keeps up.
 
"Never" ? Literally, never? No matter how bad it gets, it's Ole's job for all time, as far as Neville's concerned?

Unhinged.

It's so strange. They sit there all day and say this player isn't good enough or that players isn't trying but then can't ever say manager isn't good enough?

It's nonsense.
 
"Never" ? Literally, never? No matter how bad it gets, it's Ole's job for all time, as far as Neville's concerned?

Unhinged.
His job until Ole leaves due to health, resigns, or United go bankrupt. Those are literally the only options in his dumb view. How does he not go through this thought exercise?
 
I get what you're saying about not shifting all the staff for only 6 months, but aren't we in this mess beacuse people are learning on the job? I don't that at all for the next interim I just want someone to come in and start coaching the players on tactics and get them playing good football again. Also to give players a chance to actually play in a game the likes of VDB, Telles, Martial, Snacho etc.

Yeah we fully are, but we're stuck in a shit position now. It's why someone like Ragnick would be a good option, because he's a coach more than an overall manager. He'll oversee the actual training sessions rather than leaving them to the coaches, it's just the fact he'd likely need a role at the club afterwards and we've just filled every position available really.
 
I don't agree with this and I know it's all about this emotional narrative people have going on, but he has never said any manager at any club should be sacked. I know everyone wants their soundbites but to come out with "Neville doesn't give a damn about United" because he won't come out and say the manager should be sacked is plainly ridiculous - in 10 years at Sky he's never said any manager should be sacked so why do people now expect different from him and pretend it's because Ole's an ex-teammate?

That's not the point, if you are never going to give an honest opinion then shut up. Don't create a narrative that has an influence in media and goes against the interest of the club. His tweet tells you that he cares more about doing a job for Sky than being honest.
 
I’d have to agree, as much as it pains me when it’s this guy. Thinking the manager is not the right person is one thing, Wanting the manager gone is another but to get personal, to name call and to show a total lack of respect is just classless. It’s the fans making this situation toxic, Ole is just doing his job until it isn’t his job anymore.,
Like most of the fans I absolutely adore Ole the player, the legend and also appreciate his part in steadying the ship after Mourinho. But right now he is just being stubborn and our owners are assholes who will not care about the on-pitch disasters unless things get ugly. Of course there is a line which should not be crossed and I hope fans don't get personal with insults, but social media reaction is one thing Glazers keep eye on and message should be loud and clear there that fans almost unanimously want him gone.

I don't know how big the protest on Saturday will be, if at all there is one and if it will be covered by media but we can't let things go on like they are and assume that decision makers at club will act rational like other clubs and sack him. All sorts of pressure on them from all avenues possible is what is needed if top 4 is to be salvaged this season. Ole or coaching staff getting insulted a bit here and there as part of it is frankly not something which matters when club's immediate future is at stake.
 
Damn, this situation is to laugh. It is clear now that he is staying but i still search and search and search for any news, tweet or rumour about sacking. And there are not even a rumours about it. Give me at least a rumour about "board's emergency meeting" ffs. Anything...
 
Not too surprised that they have given players some time off, they usually do at start of international break, surprised it is a whole week. The business with keeping him until no chance of CL for next season. Would there be a clause in his contract that lowers the compensation if it happens? I think it is daft, because someone else might actually rescue that situation.
 
Yeah we fully are, but we're stuck in a shit position now. It's why someone like Ragnick would be a good option, because he's a coach more than an overall manager. He'll oversee the actual training sessions rather than leaving them to the coaches, it's just the fact he'd likely need a role at the club afterwards and we've just filled every position available really.

I would love to have Ragnick as the interim he would be perfect for the season, he would get the players playing again and actualy use the players he has,I'm not sure what formation he uses? He wantes a DOF position afterwards and maybe that will stop us getting him but he ould do a better job than Mutaugh and Fletcher.
 
Today is the day, I can feel it in my balls.
 
Sometimes so many things are going against you, you need a time off to gather yourself.

A week off is not a bad idea. Anyway, the problems here are so deep and Ole himself is part of the problem then I don't think he can turn it around in two weeks or even two months.
 
"Never" ? Literally, never? No matter how bad it gets, it's Ole's job for all time, as far as Neville's concerned?

Unhinged.
I have stopped caring about his opinions long time back. Talks utter gibberish especially when it is about United. Carragher on the other hand talks things which will be beneficial to United if acted upon. This says it all.
 
I guess that Ole knows that fans want him gone. So i would love what is he thinking right now. Is it "oh, no" or is it "I will never ever resign. Never! Ha ha ha"
 
On the contrary, he is big asset to them because of it. They will give him pay rise.
Indeed. He is generating clicks and traffic all by himself. He's putting his mate above the club without a moment's hesitation, which is manna for those looking in on us for a giggle. Long may it continue, as far as they are concerned.
 
Good point made on Twitter tonight.

What's the point of sacking Ole and keeping the coaching staff. It's all or nothing and the board are unwilling to change thing's mid season it appears.

The coaches all have to be fired.
But this will happen as a matter of course when an experienced manager comes in.
The only reason why McKenna and Carrick stayed on after Jose and into Ole's reign, was because Ole was not a "winning" manager.
Jose, LVG and Moyes all brought their own backroom staff. Moyes made the mistake which ultimately cost him his job.
 
Neville really has destroyed his credibility after this, he really is showing himself up.
 
Maybe we should just accept and try to relax about this! I am giving up seriously about that silence from the club as it seems like everything just working normal. I think we will be sadly watching Ole and his staff again at Watford and our away fans cheering for him.
 
Interestingly this tweet should confirm that Neville doesn't give a damn about United, he can pretend all he wants but he lost all credibility in my eyes.
This. 100 times this. His loyalty is to the people he played with here and the manager no doubt, he thinks because the board and owners are shite his mate can permanently have a bash at the United job no matter how poorly we are doing. That logic is beyond ridiculous and completely see-through.

That's coming from somebody who defended Ole completely until the collapse this season. He tries to justify it by saying there are bigger issues above the manager, but what are those issues? They've certainly backed Ole with a LOT of money and free reign to sign who he wants, which is the primary thing any manager wants first and foremost.

He seems to hold an extreme version of the opinion I held, regarding the fact there are no major stand out candidates to take over so let's just roll along with Ole. I only subscribed to that on the basis that there was continued slow but steady improvement on the pitch and with the squad, but this season has been an extreme opposite of progress.

Neville needs to pull his head out of his arse, he's quick to condemn our performances and results but pretends to claim a higher ground by 'never asking for a manager to leave.' Meanwhile he sacks more managers than any club in the country at Salford, double standards. He likes to have his opinion on United heard over everybody else but stops short of asking the right question, I'd rather he shut up and talk about how well our rivals are doing.
 
What was the need for a holiday when our staff has basically been on holiday this season?
 
This. 100 times this. His loyalty is to the people he played with here and the manager no doubt, he thinks because the board and owners are shite his mate can permanently have a bash at the United job no matter how poorly we are doing. That logic is beyond ridiculous and completely see-through.

That's coming from somebody who defended Ole completely until the collapse this season. He tries to justify it by saying there are bigger issues above the manager, but what are those issues? They've certainly backed Ole with a LOT of money and free reign to sign who he wants, which is the primary thing any manager wants first and foremost.

He seems to hold an extreme version of the opinion I held, regarding the fact there are no major stand out candidates to take over so let's just roll along with Ole. I only subscribed to that on the basis that there was continued slow but steady improvement on the pitch and with the squad, but this season has been an extreme opposite of progress.

Neville needs to pull his head out of his arse, he's quick to condemn our performances and results but pretends to claim a higher ground by 'never asking for a manager to leave.' Meanwhile he sacks more managers than any club in the country at Salford, double standards. He likes to have his opinion on United heard over everybody else but stops short of asking the right question, I'd rather he shut up and talk about how well our rivals are doing.

That's the key for me, I can accept the bias but keep it to yourself if you know that you can't be honest which is what the tweet asked him and he answered never. He answered "never" to someone asking him to share his honest opinion!
 
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